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Mass grave in Iraq
« on: February 05, 2008, 10:42:25 AM »
What do you expect the primitives to say??

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sabra  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 10:17 AM
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Mass grave discovered in northern Iraq 
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BAGHDAD - Iraqi forces found the bodies of 55 people allegedly killed and buried by Al Qaeda loyalists in a mass grave near the northern Iraqi city of Samarra, a police officer said Tuesday.

A police force backed by tribal units made the discovery while conducting a search operation in Al Jazira west of Samarra, 120 kilometres north of Baghdad, Colonel Mamduh Al Bazi from the city police told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa.

The bodies were of middle-aged men in plain-clothes, who seemed to have been hurriedly buried at different times.

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The freed men told the police how they and the slain men were captured by gunmen, who then stole their money and other belongings.

The men were then killed after being told that the loot was to go to the Sunni extremist Islamic State of Iraq, which has links with the Al Qaeda terrorist network.

Read more: http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile...


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wienerdoggie  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 10:18 AM
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1. Al Qaeda again, huh? Yeah. Uh-huh. 

 
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sabra  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 10:22 AM
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2. "Islamic State of Iraq, which has links with the Al Qaeda terrorist network." 
 Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 10:22 AM by sabra
now nobody really talks about what that link consists of...


gee I don't know....................linked with Al Qeada

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Paint It Black (277 posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 10:23 AM
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3. How do we know some of those aren't the ones we pulled out of houses in the middle of the night?
 I wouldn't be surprised if those Iraqis were murdered by us.

 :bird:

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littlecryinggirl (6 posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 10:32 AM
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4. After a comment like that
 I would just like to say I support our boys. My son is in the Army and my husband is retired from the Army. Frankly your comment disgusts me.


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Paint It Black (277 posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 10:37 AM
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5. You can't deny that we have done some pretty horrific things
 Just look at what was going on at Abu Gharib, and Guantanamo. What about Haditha? Those are just incidents that we know about. We can't close our eyes and pretend that there aren't atrocities and war crimes being committed.

I'm not saying that ALL of our soldiers are doing these things, but they do occur.


Yeah what about Haditha?? You mean the incident that was justified and cleared the majority of the Marines??

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wienerdoggie  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 10:38 AM
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6. No, our guys didn't do it. Please.
 
 
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Paint It Black (277 posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 10:47 AM
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9. Just like we didn't do this?
 picture of dead Iraqis

We've killed over 600,000 Iraqis. We KNOW that we've been torturing prisoners. We've used white phosphorus on Iraqi civilians in direct violation of international law.

I'm not saying that we did put those bodies into a mass grave, but we've certainly killed enough to fill up several.

 
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wienerdoggie  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 10:53 AM
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10. There will always be bad incidents and bad apples in a combat zone. But as the wife of a 
 career serviceman, I will challenge your assertion that our soldiers are routinely and deliberately targeting and murdering civilians and burying them in mass graves.
 

good for you wienerdoggie

And now.......................a word from the lying bitch Lynn

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LynnTheDem  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 11:27 AM
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13. Of course we did and are burying Iraqis we've killed in mass graves.
 Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 11:29 AM by LynnTheDem
That's SOP. You don't leave dead bodies rotting on the ground during war.

You mass-grave them.

And yes, we do it. In fact, we have our very own mass graves right here in America.

Are we "routinely and deliberately targeting and murdering civilians"? Define "routinely".

Mass graves to reveal Iraq war toll
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1021466,00....

And I too am the spouse of an army soldier. Doesn't blind me from the atrocities that were & are being committed by many of our troops who have been put, most at a far too young age, into an untenable situation where atrocities become the norm.
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wienerdoggie  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 11:30 AM
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15. OK, I can see we've gone over a cliff of sorts here. Goodbye.

 
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LynnTheDem  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 11:32 AM
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16. Yes, some facts can be very difficult to take.
 But they do remain facts.

You should visit some of America's mass graves. Good thing no one's decide to invade and slaughter us for our havcing murdered & mass-graved "our own people"!


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karlrschneider  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 11:28 AM
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14. You challenge well-known and documented facts? How uh, 'republican' of you.

 
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LiberalFighter  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 10:40 AM
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7. It was the Blackwater that did it!!! Under orders of Cheney.

 
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Re: Mass grave in Iraq
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 10:44:04 AM »
Oh my.

One wonders what's in those pipes the primitives are passing around to each other.
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Re: Mass grave in Iraq
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 10:50:02 AM »
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Paint It Black (278 posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 10:23 AM
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3. How do we know some of those aren't the ones we pulled out of houses in the middle of the night?
 I wouldn't be surprised if those Iraqis were murdered by us.
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 littlecryinggirl (6 posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 10:32 AM
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4. After a comment like that
 I would just like to say I support our boys. My son is in the Army and my husband is retired from the Army. Frankly your comment disgusts me.
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 Paint It Black (278 posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 10:37 AM
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5. You can't deny that we have done some pretty horrific things
 Just look at what was going on at Abu Gharib, and Guantanamo. What about Haditha? Those are just incidents that we know about. We can't close our eyes and pretend that there aren't atrocities and war crimes being committed.

I'm not saying that ALL of our soldiers are doing these things, but they do occur.
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 Barrett808 (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 10:43 AM
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8. Welcome to DU, cryinggirl! 
 


Why oh why did I venture over there when I KNEW it would just piss me off?  :banghead:
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Re: Mass grave in Iraq
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 10:57:21 AM »
Quote from: Splashdown on February 05, 2008, 10:50:02 AM

Why oh why did I venture over there when I KNEW it would just piss me off?  :banghead:

Yeah, why do we do that???
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Re: Mass grave in Iraq
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 11:00:42 AM »
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karlrschneider  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 11:28 AM
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14. You challenge well-known and documented facts? How uh, 'republican' of you.

You'd rather take an opinion piece as gospel-truth over the words of the men and women serving in Iraq themselves? How uh, "democrat" of you.  :redbird:
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Re: Mass grave in Iraq
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 11:44:51 AM »
If A DUchebag believes a report it is a fact.  If not it is Bush popaganda.  We are not the ones having problems with facts.
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Re: Mass grave in Iraq
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 12:38:00 PM »
I swear I must have a sliver of masochism left over from my college days when I was a femiDUmmie. These threads REALLY bother me and yet I click on them every single time. You'd think I'd know better. I can understand being against the war, there are principled reasons for that point of view. However, to believe every sick anti-troop story (especially after those stories have been clearly debunked) just to justify their beliefs. I've never met the kind of soldier or Marine these people are talking about. The fact that good men die just to keep them free so they can continue to spew their hate sickens me. If that Lyn thing is truly married to a soldier she should know better than to paint with such a broad stroke. Wonder if she truly loves her husband, you wouldn't know it...poor guy, wonder what he sees in her.

They would change their tune if the antagonist in that story changed from soldier to Palestinian, African American, Venezuelan Army, (insert favorite violent, anti-American group here), etc. They live in the freest country on Earth and have not an ounce of appreciation for such a gift or those who dedicate themselves to keep us free. Ungrateful jerks.

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Re: Mass grave in Iraq
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 12:41:33 PM »
I just noticed this part of the exchange...  the liar thinks she's converted someone?  (or am i misreading it?)

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wienerdoggie  (1000+ posts)      Tue Feb-05-08 11:30 AM
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15. OK, I can see we've gone over a cliff of sorts here. Goodbye.

 
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LynnTheDem  (1000+ posts)       Tue Feb-05-08 11:32 AM
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16. Yes, some facts can be very difficult to take.
 But they do remain facts.

You should visit some of America's mass graves. Good thing no one's decide to invade and slaughter us for our havcing murdered & mass-graved "our own people"!

  Hey Lynn, in case you can't read, Wiener is telling you to your face that you're a f---ing liar
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Re: Mass grave in Iraq
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 01:37:40 PM »
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Just look at what was going on at Abu Gharib

They condemn, as a war crime, making some enemy combatants stand around nekkid, but then on another thread they want to make politicians debate in the nude.  I'm so confused  :confused: :confused: :drink:
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