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« on: October 18, 2016, 06:34:06 AM »
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I think it's time to start talking about Hitler

It's time to suspend Godwin's law.

I'm 61 years old. I get to talk about Hitler. I was born in 1955, 10 years after Hitler died. 5 years later, when I was capable of understanding such things, memories were still fresh.

My father did not talk his way past a medical deferment (asthma) until it was too late to see action, but he did mention missing work the day the munitions factory blew up, killing several of his friends.

Our maid was Austrian and still emotionally shattered over losing friends and family in the war and being shunned for being on "the wrong side".

I visited Europe in the 70s and got to see the destruction first hand even years later. Statues in downtown London still had bullet holes. Cologne Cathedral was still in ruins. I saw The Wall.

It's happening again.

Having seen what I've seen, do you have any idea how terrified I am?

An authoritarian leader who keeps a copy of Hitler's speeches in his bedside table, quoting from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, is encouraging his authoritarian, "facts don't matter" followers to challenge people at voting stations. Some have already said they're coming armed.

At his Nuremberg-style rallies, where he screams incoherent nonsense (remind you of anybody?), his followers beat people they feel (sorry, no thinking allowed) don't belong, like a scene right out of Pink Floyd's The Wall.

He has already declared the election fraudulent and told his followers to not accept the results and take matters into their own hands. That, my friends, is called a Putsch. Is there a beer hall handy?

Trump has no boundaries. When, not "if", when he gets in to power, four years is not going to be enough. The Presidency will be too restraining, the Constitution too constraining so he will simply declare himself Leader and Chancellor, or in German Führer und Reichskanzle. Then, with the economy crashing around him, he will look for resources and land. Hitler looked to the Caspian Sea. Trump will have his Wall to the South, but for resources will look North.

Canada joined the Allied effort to fight Hitler early. You Yanks were late to the parade. Canada made some very, very good friends back then who still remember. I used to work in a Government office surrounded by enormous beds of beautiful tulips. Always tulips. You see, the Dutch would send a shipment every year in gratitude for Canada's role in the liberation of Holland. The Brits were rather pleased with us, as were the French (may I remind you they have nukes even if we don't?) and a whole lot of other countries with standing armies who are watching in horror as America falls victim to an authoritarian, sociopathic narcissist.

We remember Hitler. We were there. We will be ready.

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Trump is exactly what is needed to fix America. A strong leader who will crush our enemies, both external and internal. And you're DAMN RIGHT there are no boundaries. There are no limits when it comes to defeat the enemies of America and the enemies of God.

Those of you who are scared? Feel like you don't belong? Good. You don't belong, and you should be scared, because after what you've done to us, you better believe it's payback time. You should have thought of that before you tried to bully white Christians.

Too late now. Even if Hillary steals the election, this isn't over.

Wonder how long it will last.
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Re: Posting since I expect this to be gone momentarily
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2016, 07:00:01 AM »
I just hope it causes one or two fatal heart attacks before it disappears down the memory hole.
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Re: Posting since I expect this to be gone momentarily
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2016, 07:13:25 AM »
That thumping sound you are hearing, that is the sound of a bunch of DUmmies collapsing on their fainting couches.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 07:40:42 AM »
That was funny!

So another kook primitive comes on and makes some over-the-top pronouncement that anyone who disagrees with them are Nazis (how original  :whatever: ), and some newbie comes over and the greater part of their message was "You liberals started this by not living up to what the Constitution says, so yeah, we're going to wreck hillbots party and yours." They can't handle hearing that. If hillbot wins, I will take joy in watching them cry and moan some more.

You see, primitives, what you don't seem to get is that when the country is in the hands of Democrats/liberals, it's not really conducting itself as the USA, and it becomes the USA In Name Only. Modern day liberalism is always in true opposition to freedom, liberty, justice, and morality.

A USA that eventually becomes what you libs would like it to become is a country that needs to burn to the ground. It would be unworthy to exist. It would be better off in the dust-bin of history. We as conservatives will do what we can to try and keep it from going down the sewer hole of modern-day liberalism, but if unsuccessful, it will go down the pipes. Just like Babylon, Persia, the Greeks, and Rome, wave it bye-bye. It make take 20 years, or 50 years, or 100 years, or maybe longer, but it will.

Look primitives, there are consequences for violating the public trust, and whole bunch of people who you wished didn't take notice, have.

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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2016, 08:55:01 AM »
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I visited Europe in the 70s and got to see the destruction first hand even years later. Statues in downtown London still had bullet holes. Cologne Cathedral was still in ruins. I saw The Wall. ...

I call :bsmeter: ! From Wikipedia's article about the Cologne Cathedral:

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The cathedral suffered fourteen hits by aerial bombs during World War II. Badly damaged, it nevertheless remained standing in an otherwise completely flattened city. The twin spires were an easily recognizable navigational landmark for Allied aircraft bombing.

Repairs were completed in 1956. ...

IOW, repairs were complete when TrogL was 1YO.

It's gotta be :bouncy: Rule #1 that if you're going to include details to make the :bouncy: credible, the details that are BS must not be easily checked!
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Re: Posting since I expect this to be gone momentarily
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2016, 09:08:25 AM »
It's time to start talking Hitler? ???

You mental midgets have been comparing every Republican and/or Conservative to Hitler at the DUmp since the site started.

And you probably were via other methods for ages before 2000.  DUmbasses.
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2016, 09:26:03 AM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on October 18, 2016, 09:08:25 AM
It's time to start talking Hitler? ???

You mental midgets have been comparing every Republican and/or Conservative to Hitler at the DUmp since the site started.

And you probably were via other methods for ages before 2000.  DUmbasses.

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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2016, 10:43:03 AM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on October 18, 2016, 09:08:25 AM
It's time to start talking Hitler? ???

You mental midgets have been comparing every Republican and/or Conservative to Hitler at the DUmp since the site started.

And you probably were via other methods for ages before 2000.  DUmbasses.

Screaming, "Fascist!" and, "Nazi" have been favored Lib/Prog tactics since at least the 1960s, and probably all the way back to the 1930s.
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Re: Posting since I expect this to be gone momentarily
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2016, 11:14:50 AM »
Quote from: SVPete on October 18, 2016, 10:43:03 AM
Screaming, "Fascist!" and, "Nazi" have been favored Lib/Prog tactics since at least the 1960s, and probably all the way back to the 1930s.

Orange Julius Caesar is a fascist, but not a Hitler-fascist. He is a Carlyle-fascist, an embodiment of the Great Man theory.

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2016, 06:39:36 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on October 18, 2016, 09:08:25 AM
It's time to start talking Hitler? ???

You mental midgets have been comparing every Republican and/or Conservative to Hitler at the DUmp since the site started.

And you probably were via other methods for ages before 2000.  DUmbasses.

Hell the dems compared Reagan to hitler. Called him stupid, evil, fascist, etc.  Their playbook never changes and the dummies dutifully follow along. :cheersmate:

I have always said that if the MSM was anything close to objective there would never be another dem president.

Quote from: SVPete on October 18, 2016, 10:43:03 AM
Screaming, "Fascist!" and, "Nazi" have been favored Lib/Prog tactics since at least the 1960s, and probably all the way back to the 1930s.

That started with Reagan.  Got really moving when the dems lost the house in 94.  Too many people that actually lived thru hitler were around in the 60's and 70's.  The majority of the dems at the time would be considered moderate GOP now.  It wasn't until the early 90's when the dems passed the AWB that the electorate purged the conservative dems for marching in lockstep with the libs.  The dems went off the deep end after that.


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Re: Posting since I expect this to be gone momentarily
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2016, 08:19:04 PM »
Quote from: SVPete on October 18, 2016, 08:55:01 AM
I call :bsmeter: ! From Wikipedia's article about the Cologne Cathedral:

IOW, repairs were complete when TrogL was 1YO.

It's gotta be :bouncy: Rule #1 that if you're going to include details to make the :bouncy: credible, the details that are BS must not be easily checked!

Not only that....

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We remember Hitler. We were there. We will be ready.

By your own admission, you were born 10 years after he died.

You. Don't. Know. Shit.  Phuckwad. Now, I am familiar with three surviving ETO vets.  Care to guess who they will be voting for?
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2016, 08:25:41 PM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on October 18, 2016, 08:19:04 PM
Not only that....

By your own admission, you were born 10 years after he died.

You. Don't. Know. Shit.  Phuckwad. Now, I am familiar with three surviving ETO vets.  Care to guess who they will be voting for?
Do kids even learn history any more?  Other than "Whitey is evil!"?

We learned a lot in high school & college.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2016, 08:28:39 PM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on October 18, 2016, 06:39:36 PM
Hell the dems compared Reagan to hitler. Called him stupid, evil, fascist, etc.  Their playbook never changes and the dummies dutifully follow along. :cheersmate:

I have always said that if the MSM was anything close to objective there would never be another dem president.

That started with Reagan.  Got really moving when the dems lost the house in 94.  Too many people that actually lived thru hitler were around in the 60's and 70's.  The majority of the dems at the time would be considered moderate GOP now.

No.  They were screaming that shit well before Reagan.

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It wasn't until the early 90's when the dems passed the AWB that the electorate purged the conservative dems for marching in lockstep with the libs.  The dems went off the deep end after that.

Oh boy....  did they ever.
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2016, 08:36:30 PM »
Quote from: Ralph Wiggum on October 18, 2016, 08:25:41 PM
Do kids even learn history any more?  Other than "Whitey is evil!"?

We learned a lot in high school & college.

We were FAR more educated out of high school, than these little toads could possibly be.  College, is a joke.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2016, 09:12:45 PM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on October 18, 2016, 08:36:30 PM
We were FAR more educated out of high school, than these little toads could possibly be.  College, is a joke.
We even learned quite a bit about Vietnam, without a lot of historical perspective quite settled yet in the mid to late 80's.  Distinctly recall having Vietnam vets speak to our classes.  Sure, there was polite discussion about the origin & controversy surrounding it.  But we weren't as jaded as kids now certainly are.
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2016, 08:07:31 AM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on October 18, 2016, 08:28:39 PM
No.  They were screaming that shit (Screaming, "Fascist!" and, "Nazi") well before Reagan.
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It was common fare in anti-war demonstrations out here on the Left Coast back in the mid-late 60s and early 70s. I was in high school at the time. It's just become increasingly mainstream and commonplace as those Libs grew older and had (and corrupted, to be blunt) kids.
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2016, 03:37:10 AM »
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Statues in downtown London still had bullet holes.
They did?  From what?  The invading Nazis who scaled the cliffs of Dover and then took Southeastern Rail into Charing Cross Station?

My, those sure were trying times, back when the Nazi elites all took over Tunbridge Wells, and who could forget how terrible it was with the invading SS taking over all of Aldershot....


Holy crap, how spectacularly un-informed this goof is.  He's no more been to London than I have been to Jupiter.  Not the one in Florida.  I've actually been there.  I'm talking about the big ball of gas orbiting the sun.
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2016, 05:40:01 AM »
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Statues in downtown London still had bullet holes.
They did?  From what?  The invading Nazis who scaled the cliffs of Dover and then took Southeastern Rail into Charing Cross Station?

My, those sure were trying times, back when the Nazi elites all took over Tunbridge Wells, and who could forget how terrible it was with the invading SS taking over all of Aldershot....


Holy crap, how spectacularly un-informed this goof is.  He's no more been to London than I have been to Jupiter.  Not the one in Florida.  I've actually been there.  I'm talking about the big ball of gas orbiting the sun.

Silly - it was the Japanese!
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2016, 06:09:09 AM »
Quote from: freedumb2003b on November 06, 2016, 05:40:01 AM
They did?  From what?  The invading Nazis who scaled the cliffs of Dover and then took Southeastern Rail into Charing Cross Station?

My, those sure were trying times, back when the Nazi elites all took over Tunbridge Wells, and who could forget how terrible it was with the invading SS taking over all of Aldershot....


Holy crap, how spectacularly un-informed this goof is.  He's no more been to London than I have been to Jupiter.  Not the one in Florida.  I've actually been there.  I'm talking about the big ball of gas orbiting the sun.


Silly - it was the Japanese!
Did we quit when the nazis bombed pearl harbor?!

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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2016, 06:53:14 AM »
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Did we quit when the nazis bombed pearl harbor?!

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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2016, 07:01:46 AM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on October 18, 2016, 08:19:04 PM
Not only that....

By your own admission, you were born 10 years after he died.

You. Don't. Know. Shit.  Phuckwad. Now, I am familiar with three surviving ETO vets.  Care to guess who they will be voting for?

Which Waffen-SS Regiment were they in?  KIDDING!!

 :-) :fuelfire: :tongue:

(Seriously, I heard a guy wryly talk about having met a "WW2 vet" in need, and took him to a VA office of some sort; they asked him what service he'd been in and he mentioned a Wehrmacht unit.  Nope! No VA stuff for you!)
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2016, 08:42:45 AM »
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2. What's the problem?

Trump is exactly what is needed to fix America. A strong leader who will crush our enemies, both external and internal. And you're DAMN RIGHT there are no boundaries. There are no limits when it comes to defeat the enemies of America and the enemies of God.
Those of you who are scared? Feel like you don't belong? Good. You don't belong, and you should be scared, because after what you've done to us, you better believe it's payback time. You should have thought of that before you tried to bully white Christians.
Too late now. Even if Hillary steals the election, this isn't over.

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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2016, 10:41:44 AM »
Quote from: Adam Wood on November 06, 2016, 03:37:10 AM
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Statues in downtown London still had bullet holes.

They did?  From what?  The invading Nazis who scaled the cliffs of Dover and then took Southeastern Rail into Charing Cross Station?

My, those sure were trying times, back when the Nazi elites all took over Tunbridge Wells, and who could forget how terrible it was with the invading SS taking over all of Aldershot....


Holy crap, how spectacularly un-informed this goof is.  He's no more been to London than I have been to Jupiter.  Not the one in Florida.  I've actually been there.  I'm talking about the big ball of gas orbiting the sun.

Good point. Mrs. SVPete and I visited England last May. No bullet holes in statues (London, Canterbury, or Dover), nothing but a destroyed church in Dover - from Nazi shelling, IIRC - that was left in that state as a memorial. The church building was no longer in use even before the war.
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