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Title: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 04, 2019, 10:17:39 AM
Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/crime--law/police-responding-active-shooting-oregon-district/dHOvgFCs726CylnDLdZQxM/

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DAYTON — A shooting with multiple fatalities and several people wounded has occurred near Ned Peppers Bar on East Fifth Street in the city of Dayton’s Oregon District. Here’s the latest:

The number of injured in Sunday morning’s shooting in the Oregon District has increased to 27, according to Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley.

Ten people are dead, nine of whom are victims and one shooter. The shooter, who has only been identified as a man, was neutralized within a minute of the first shots being fired, Whaley said during a 10 a.m. news conference.

This time in Dayton. 9 people got killed at a bar.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 04, 2019, 12:10:50 PM
The Latest: Source: Ohio shooter identified as Connor Betts
https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-9-killed-least-16-083716408.html

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DAYTON, Ohio (AP) — The Latest on a deadly mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio (all times local):

12:25 p.m.

A law enforcement official identified the shooter who killed nine people and injured dozens when he opened fire in a popular nightlife area of Dayton, Ohio, as Connor Betts.

The official says Betts was in his 20s.

The Dayton killer has been identified as Connor Betts.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 04, 2019, 01:06:03 PM
Dayton, Ohio, shooting suspect identified, sister among 9 killed, officials say
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dayton-ohio-shooting-suspect-identified-sister-among-9-killed-officials-say

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The sister of the gunman in the deadly rampage in Dayton, Ohio was among the nine killed during the early-morning shooting in a popular nightlife area that left dozens injured, officials revealed Sunday.

Dayton Deputy Director and Assistant Chief of Police Lt. Col. Matt Carper identified the gunman as 24-year-old Connor Betts. His sister, 22-year-old Megan Betts, was among the nine killed, according to Carper, who added that al of those killed during the rampage were shot in the city's Oregon District around Fifth Street.

Betts was killed by police less than a minute after he opened fire with a .223-caliber rifle in the streets of the Oregon District around 1 a.m. Sunday in the second U.S. mass shooting in less than 24 hours after at least 20 people were slain in El Paso, Texas.

The killer killed his own sister, Megan Betts.  :mad:
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: freedumb2003b on August 04, 2019, 01:09:25 PM
Gun grabber weekend.

They are going to play this for all it is worth.  I accidentally happen across the stupidest twitter hastag -- "dosomething."  The WORST thing that can happen in cases like this is to DO SOMETHING.  Knee jerk reactions to tragedies like these lead to long-term suffering by everyone with zero positive results.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 04, 2019, 01:14:43 PM
Gun grabber weekend.

They are going to play this for all it is worth.  I accidentally happen across the stupidest twitter hastag -- "dosomething."  The WORST thing that can happen in cases like this is to DO SOMETHING.  Knee jerk reactions to tragedies like these lead to long-term suffering by everyone with zero positive results.


Do something? These killers are disturbed and angry.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: dutch508 on August 04, 2019, 01:38:33 PM
Dayton Shooter Identified, Was Registered Democrat, His Sister And Her Boyfriend Also Found Shot
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Old n Grumpy on August 04, 2019, 02:19:52 PM
Thank God the dirt bag is dead. people like that don't deserve to live after committing mass murder.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: SVPete on August 04, 2019, 03:56:09 PM
Unknown Hero Knocked the Gun Out of Dayton Shooter's Hands (https://pjmedia.com/trending/unknown-hero-knocked-the-gun-out-of-dayton-shooters-hands/)

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On Facebook, locals who knew the shooter shared threats of violence he had made, particularly against some. "Connor seriously threatened to hurt women who rejected him, myself included," one woman shared. "Channel 7 says they are avoiding saying his name, but I think we need to all talk about how [the shooter] has been openly talking about doing this for a decade and no one could do anything about it. Luke and I went to Bellbrook with him. He got kicked out because they found a notebook of his where he was planning violence, primarily towards women."

It seems many more people — women, in particular — would have died had the unknown hero not taken the gun from the shooter's hands and had police not put him down.

A possible motive? The guy was a loser with women? Shades of Gilroy?

I hope the guy who grabbed away his gun is found and alive.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Ausonius on August 04, 2019, 06:37:26 PM
I just read some interviews with the former high school principal in the suburb of Dayton, where the shooter resided (apparently with his parents). The former principal recalled suspending the shooter for writing a “hit list.” A former classmate also recalled him and the hit list, recalled that he had been “bullied” in high school, and when she first heard of the massacre, she said his name was the first one which occurred to her.

A former friend said the shooter was quiet and seemed normal…except for the hit list incident, which he (obviously) never thought of as anything other than a prank. The former friend said he had spoken with the shooter c. 10 months ago and had a normal conversation with him about everyday things.

One of his victims in the area was his own sister, who seems to have ridden with him to the area! Dayton Police know of nothing about any catalyst for the shooting. No racist rants, nothing. Parents are upper-middle class with a very nice suburban house.

6 Dayton policemen combined to blow him away. He carried 50-bullet magazines for the rifle, all legal here in Ohio…

The mentally ill, in my experience with them (limited, but possibly more than usual I think), are often able to mask all of their symptoms: that would seem to be the case here. Who knows whether he experienced hallucinatory voices, images, etc.?
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 04, 2019, 07:12:42 PM
Connor Betts: Twitter Posts on Being a Leftist, Guns
https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts-twitter-politics-social-media/

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Connor Betts, the Dayton, Ohio mass shooter, was a self-described “leftist,” who wrote that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results, and added, “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.”

Betts’ Twitter profile read, “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.” One tweet on his page read, “Off to Midnight Mass. At least the songs are good. #athiestsonchristmas.” The page handle? I am the spookster. On one selfie, he included the hashtags, “#selfie4satan #HailSatan @SatanTweeting.” On the date of Republican Sen. John McCain’s death, he wrote, “F*ck John McCain.”

On Nov. 2, 2018, he wrote: “Vote blue for gods sake.”

“This is America: Guns on every corner, guns in every house, no freedom but that to kill,” he wrote in December 2018. And, “’Tis! The pistol is a Beretta 93R, called the REK7 in BO4. Do love me some guns!” He also wrote, “Hammer, brick, gun.” On Feb. 14, 2018, he tweeted this at Sen. Rob Portman: “@robportman hey rob. How much did they pay you to look the other way? 17 kids are dead. If not now, when?” That was the date of the mass shooting at a school in Parkland, Florida.

He is a leftist.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Zathras on August 05, 2019, 02:47:47 AM
He is a leftist.

Correction. He WAS a leftist. Now he's worm food.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: freedumb2003b on August 05, 2019, 08:44:34 AM
Correction. He WAS a leftist. Now he's worm food.

So he is a good leftist.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Zathras on August 05, 2019, 03:48:06 PM
So he is a good leftist.

Yup, the only kind.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 05, 2019, 07:30:04 PM
Friend to police: Dayton killer discussed shooting up UD bar
https://www.journal-news.com/news/local/friend-police-dayton-killer-discussed-shooting-bar/3NGLDQ9w2f67iRAMkKkoKL/

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Friends of the Dayton Oregon District shooter cut ties with him earlier this year because he’d unexpectedly brandish guns and once talked about shooting up Timothy’s, a popular bar among University of Dayton students, a former friend told the Dayton Daily News.

Other people — far from friendly with Connor Betts, the shooter — recalled to the Dayton Daily News how they’d been concerned about him and his bizarre behavior for years, even reporting him to local police.

Will El-Fakir knew Connor Betts.
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El-Fakir, who said he’s personally pro-2nd Amendment, described Betts as “definitely not a right-leaning person. His political views definitely leaned to the left. And believe it or not, he was actually pro-gun control. He was actually anti-2nd Amendment.”“I don’t know if this is the motive that made him snap,” El-Fakir said, “(but I think) he donned himself with that ballistic vest just to show people how easy it was to arm themselves. It’s pure speculation.”“He never once spit out a conservative opinion on gun control,” El-Fakir said.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 05, 2019, 07:33:22 PM
Ex-classmate of Dayton gunman Connor Betts says she reported him to police in high school after he told her she was on his 'rape list' - as others reveal he had an obsession with death and he threatened to kill restaurant customers who didn't tip him
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7323843/Ex-classmate-Connor-Betts-reported-police-rape-list.html

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Dayton gunman Connor Betts allegedly had an obsession with killing and death as former high school classmates say the warning signs were there long before he slaughtered his sister and eight others.

The 24-year-old massacred nine people, including his 22-year-old sister Megan Betts, with an assault rifle at about 1am on Sunday in a section of the city known for its nightlife.

Betts, who was wearing body armor and a mask during the rampage, was shot dead by police outside a bar about 30 seconds after he first opened fire.

What a sicko!  :mad:
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 05, 2019, 09:15:36 PM
Connor Betts’ Family: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts-family-parents-mother-father/

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Before August 2019, the Betts family consisted of the mother, father, and two children, Connor and Megan. Then, in a singular horrific act, Connor Betts, 24, took a firearm, and gunned down his own sister and eight other people in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio.

When it all ended, police shot Connor Betts to death outside a bar, and another 27 people were wounded. Police say they are still searching for a motive. It’s pretty impossible to find one on his parents’ public social media accounts anyway, where they painted a picture of a close family and posted about things like crab apples, dinners out, and their kids.

The parents – Steve and Moira Betts – did occasionally post about politics, with Moira criticizing the alt right and Steve chastising Republicans. Stephen Betts posted about gun deaths after the Sandy Hook tragedy.

Connor Betts had leftist parents, especially the father.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: SVPete on August 05, 2019, 09:42:57 PM
I was wondering how many siblings he had. I wonder whether he was POed at his sister or whether he was trying to "give" his parents the hateful "gift" of both their children being killed within minutes of each other. Not that the two possibilities are mutually exclusive.

The guy, apparently, was a member of a metal band whose theme was doing violent things to women.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 05, 2019, 09:48:17 PM
I was wondering how many siblings he had. I wonder whether he was POed at his sister or whether he was trying to "give" his parents the hateful "gift" of both their children being killed within minutes of each other. Not that the two possibilities are mutually exclusive.

The guy, apparently, was a member of a metal band whose theme was doing violent things to women.

He had a younger sister.
Title: Re: Dayton Shooting: 9 victims, 1 shooter dead, 27 injured in Oregon District
Post by: SVPete on August 06, 2019, 08:37:14 AM
He had a younger sister.

Who he killed, leaving his parents with no living children. Hence '"give" his parents the hateful "gift" of both their children being killed within minutes of each other' in my post above.

My wild speculation - 12+ hours later is that he was consumed by his hate, where his sister and parents were fairly happy. Hating the happy, he destroyed their happiness in ending himself.