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Billy Carter. Remember him?
CC27:
--- Quote ---MineralMan (147,671 posts)
Billy Carter. Remember him?
Roger Clinton?
Neal Bush?
Sometimes, a guy has to do right by his kinfolk. Yup.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219785325
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WTF is this numb nuts talking about?
SVPete:
Well, scanning W'pedia bios
* Billy Carter was a hell-raiser-idiot and alcoholic, since recovered; sadly, he died of pancreatic cancer;
* Roger Clinton was pardoned for cocaine possession, after serving some prison time; more recently he had some DUIs, but this was well after Bill's Presidency;
* Neal Bush was part of an S & L failure; it was determined that he had committed some breaches of his fiduciary duty, and he paid $50K in a civil court settlement. Never criminally charged, never pardoned.
MM is trying to equate these three with Hunter being pardoned. Two of the three were not criminally charged, and the third was pardoned after doing some prison time. Hunter hasn't gone near a prison, unless he happened to drive by one in his car. Moral equivalency and normalization FAIL.
FlippyDoo:
--- Quote from: SVPete on December 03, 2024, 03:48:19 PM ---Well, scanning W'pedia bios
* Billy Carter was a hell-raiser-idiot and alcoholic, since recovered; sadly, he died of pancreatic cancer;
* Roger Clinton was pardoned for cocaine possession, after serving some prison time; more recently he had some DUIs, but this was well after Bill's Presidency;
* Neal Bush was part of an S & L failure; it was determined that he had committed some breaches of his fiduciary duty, and he paid $50K in a civil court settlement. Never criminally charged, never pardoned.
MM is trying to equate these three with Hunter being pardoned. Two of the three were not criminally charged, and the third was pardoned after doing some prison time. Hunter hasn't gone near a prison, unless he happened to drive by one in his car. Moral equivalency and normalization FAIL.
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And these dense idiots are overlooking the fact that SloJo's pardon doesn't just pardon him for the crimes that he's found guilty of. It also pardoned him for all of the federal crimes that he hadn't yet been tried for that he committed for past 10 years. It really was a Get Out of Jail Free card. It's probably even better than the Race Card.
enslaved1:
--- Quote from: FlippyDoo on December 03, 2024, 04:34:31 PM ---And these dense idiots are overlooking the fact that SloJo's pardon doesn't just pardon him for the crimes that he's found guilty of. It also pardoned him for all of the federal crimes that he hadn't yet been tried for that he committed for past 10 years. It really was a Get Out of Jail Free card. It's probably even better than the Race Card.
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That's the craziest part of this mess. Pardon for the pitiful little "look we're following the rule of law!" charges they gave Hunter would be standard operating procedure for politicians. This "get off scott free for stuff that hasn't been brought yet but really needs to be and would drag down Joe, Jill and who knows how many others" pardon is pure CYA for the whole family.
SVPete:
More on (Moron) MineralMan's Neal Bush claim:
Esquire deletes false George Bush pardon story after liberal columnist makes major error
https://www.foxnews.com/media/esquire-deletes-false-george-bush-pardon-story-liberal-columnist-makes-major-error
--- Quote ---Esquire has deleted a column that used a false claim about former President George H.W. Bush as the basis to justify President Biden's decision to pardon his son, Hunter.
In a Tuesday column, liberal pundit Charles P. Pierce claimed that Hunter Biden was not the first presidential son caught up in controversy, asking readers, "Anybody Remember Neil Bush?"
"Nobody defines Poppy Bush's presidency by his son's struggles or the pardons he issued on his way out of the White House. The moral: Shut the f--- up about Hunter Biden, please," he wrote in the sub-headline.
...
The only problem? Bush never pardoned his son.
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Initially, Esquire added an editor' note to the column, "An earlier version stated incorrectly that George H.W. Bush gave a presidential pardon to his son, Neil Bush. Esquire regrets the error.". The Esquire removed the column from the page and substituted this note, "... removed due to an error ... Esquire regrets the mistake".
Esquire's admission does not impress me. A falsehood that could have been avoided (by the author) or detected and deleted (by an editor) by taking 5 minutes or less on W'pedia is not a "mistake". More likely, it was a lie that was only deleted after it had gotten spread around the Internet (to trusting fools like MM).
So, will DU-Denizens:
* Persist in the claim?
* Claim it's false but true?
* Move on to their next lies?
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