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Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief
« on: October 29, 2010, 09:26:43 AM »
this is another grand announcement of something that already exists;  this exact "incentive" was included in the flaccid stimulus.  it already doesn't work, so by obamite logic, the obvious move is to do it bigger for longer.

businesses don't lack capital.  they are sitting on a couple of trillion dollars;  they're just afraid to spend it because they are terrified of what obamacare, the financial "reform", the impending massive tax hikes that are on the horizon, and whatever kind of mayhem the lame duck session of congress can create.

they don't get it.  they just really, really don't get it.  you can't create the insane expansion of the central government, and then expect people to respond to "tax incentives".  no one is buying it, yet they keep on running the same play over and over.

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Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief

 WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--A proposal from President Barack Obama to allow businesses to expense 100% of capital investments would provide $150 billion in tax relief, according to a report to be released Friday by the Treasury Department.

The proposal, which needs congressional approval, allows businesses to expense all capital investments from September 2010 through 2011.

The proposal is part of a handful of ideas Obama offered in September to help spur economic growth and gain the support of the business community, which has been highly critical of the president. Among the other ideas Obama proposed was the extension of a research and experimentation tax credit, which has in the past garnered the support of businesses and Republicans.

The administration says the proposal to allow companies to expense capital investments will be particularly helpful to the business community and overall economy.

"This might be the best bang-for-the-buck investment incentive that one could design," a senior administration official said Thursday evening.

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Re: Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2010, 10:28:35 AM »
Tease the capitalist so we can retain our power until such time we can hang them.
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Re: Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2010, 09:45:44 PM »
No kidding they're sitting on a ton of cash.  Case in point--the company I work for is publicly traded. (NYSE: NEE)


http://www.investor.fplgroup.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=88486&p=irol-stockquote

Here's the ball-buster.  We're told there's no money for anything, but look at the dividend estimates.

http://www.investor.nexteraenergy.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=88486&p=irol-estimates

$4.80 a share for a stock that trades around $50/share?  You know what that tells me, Obumbles?
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Re: Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2010, 09:49:44 PM »
my company is the same.  we have it, we're just petrified to spend it because we have no clue what ReBamaLosi will do next.

if the midterms work like we think they will, I expect unemployment to plummet in November.

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Re: Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2010, 09:59:43 PM »
my company is the same.  we have it, we're just petrified to spend it because we have no clue what ReBamaLosi will do next.

if the midterms work like we think they will, I expect unemployment to plummet in November.

I don't.  Remember, the Dems will NEVER extend the tax cuts for anyone.  And that's going to hurt people at all income levels, which in turn will cause small businesses to tighten up their belts even more.

I wish I shared your optimism, but I just don't unless and until spending is brought under control, Obamacare is repealed or at least effectively gutted, and the tax rates stay at current levels.
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Re: Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2010, 10:11:51 PM »
I don't.  Remember, the Dems will NEVER extend the tax cuts for anyone.  And that's going to hurt people at all income levels, which in turn will cause small businesses to tighten up their belts even more.

I wish I shared your optimism, but I just don't unless and until spending is brought under control, Obamacare is repealed or at least effectively gutted, and the tax rates stay at current levels.

that is a very good point.  we keep saying that we can stop obamacare by defunding it, but the law is written so poorly that low level bureaucrats are deciding what it means.  we would have to eliminate the whole department of HHS.


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Re: Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2010, 03:23:14 PM »
that is a very good point.  we keep saying that we can stop obamacare by defunding it, but the law is written so poorly that low level bureaucrats are deciding what it means.  we would have to eliminate the whole department of HHS.



and the problem with that is?

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Re: Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2010, 03:43:12 PM »
and the problem with that is?

well, depending on what happens tuesday, the senate could be a problem.  presidential vetos will definitely be a problem.  it will be harder to throw a monkey wrench into obamacare than we think it will be.


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Re: Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2010, 05:03:44 PM »
well, depending on what happens tuesday, the senate could be a problem.  presidential vetos will definitely be a problem.  it will be harder to throw a monkey wrench into obamacare than we think it will be.



sorry, should have highlighted what i was referring to.  I was asking what the problem with eliminating HHS would be.

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Re: Obama Capital Investment Tax Break To Offer $150B Relief
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2010, 05:14:56 PM »
sorry, should have highlighted what i was referring to.  I was asking what the problem with eliminating HHS would be.

wouldn't that run into the exact same problems?