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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2011, 05:57:08 PM »
Quote from: formerlurker on March 19, 2011, 05:44:11 PM
Sucks to be France right about now.

do they??? those are US dollar amounts
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2011, 06:19:20 PM »
Supposedly, there is talk of using the F-22s against the Libyans.

And the Tomahawks--they are being used for air defense suppression.  112 of them--and according to the USN VADM conducting the Pentagon briefing, they were fired from both USN and British Navy ships and subs, with a mix of "older and newer models."  Figure that it's probably cheaper to fire an older model rather than get it overhauled to bring it up to today's standards.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2011, 06:24:33 PM »
Quote from: namvet on March 19, 2011, 05:57:08 PM
do they??? those are US dollar amounts

That's if the US is enforcing the no-fly zone.   They are not.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2011, 06:24:59 PM »
Quote from: namvet on March 19, 2011, 05:54:54 PM
my war's over

That's a non-answer.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2011, 06:25:41 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on March 19, 2011, 06:19:20 PM
Supposedly, there is talk of using the F-22s against the Libyans.

And the Tomahawks--they are being used for air defense suppression.  112 of them--and according to the USN VADM conducting the Pentagon briefing, they were fired from both USN and British Navy ships and subs, with a mix of "older and newer models."  Figure that it's probably cheaper to fire an older model rather than get it overhauled to bring it up to today's standards.

so far none of our aircraft are involved that ive heard of. real concern here is the mobile launchers. he can roll those up to the coastline and fire at those ships off the coast. and Osama's response ??? stay or birds away ???
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2011, 06:31:45 PM »



Oh my.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2011, 06:50:49 PM »
Quote from: formerlurker on March 19, 2011, 06:31:45 PM



Oh my.

Why are her eyes bulging so? It looks like she's either on speed or someone just shoved a snowcone up her ass.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2011, 06:53:10 PM »
Why the hell are they wasting time with a no-fly zone.  The goal of that is to allow the the rebel forces to capture/kill/depose Gadaffi.  Why not just locate his ass and take him out.


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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2011, 07:00:39 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on March 19, 2011, 06:53:10 PM
Why the hell are they wasting time with a no-fly zone.  The goal of that is to allow the the rebel forces to capture/kill/depose Gadaffi.  Why not just locate his ass and take him out.




The dems don't really like the idea of taking out bad people unless it's for wine and dancing.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2011, 07:15:30 PM »
Quote from: ChuckJ on March 19, 2011, 07:00:39 PM
The dems don't really like the idea of taking out bad people unless it's for wine and dancing.

and campaign contributions.....
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2011, 07:18:35 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on March 19, 2011, 04:44:41 PM
I'm not comfortable with any of this.

Neither am I. Kadaffi has murdered 163 Americans and should die, but the government is jumping into Libya's civil war blindly. The rebels could very well be Muslim Brotherhood or Iran backed, and intending to set up a theocracy.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2011, 07:21:32 PM »
Quote from: Attero Dominatus on March 19, 2011, 07:18:35 PM
Neither am I. Kadaffi has murdered 163 Americans and should die, but the government is jumping into Libya's civil war blindly. The rebels could very well be Muslim Brotherhood or Iran backed, and intending to set up a theocracy.

that was my biggest worry. not only here but in Egypt. more little Bin Laden's ????
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2011, 09:18:11 PM »
I wouldn't go quite that far.  We've had a policy of not killing foreign leaders since the 70's, and that policy still applies as long as we're not actively engaged in declared hostilities with them, like we are/were with the Taliban and Saddam Hussein.

As far as the CVBG, they were already there as part of a normal deployment.  Ships belong at sea, period.  The only difference is in the expended ordnance, nothing more.  And if Qaddafi decides he wants to try to tangle with the US Navy again, well, I guess he didn't learn his lesson the first couple of times.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2011, 10:53:36 PM »
From what I understand the cruise missiles were supposed to knock out their air defenses so that the Brits, French and Canadians could enforce the no fly zone with their F-16s. If they had the US F-22 that would not have been so critical. What happens if all the antiaircraft sites have not been destroyed. I look for the French to turn tail and run if their planes get shot down. Who is going to be coordinating this operation. Looks like Obama has washed his hands after the missile strike. I sure hope so. We do not be dragged into this. Plus, our national interest are not comprised one iota if Qaddafi stays in power. Let the sand monkeys kill each other.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2011, 11:55:00 PM »
Wouldn't it be ironic if OblaBla does the job Reagan should have finished in '86?
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2011, 12:04:56 AM »
Quote from: beefeater on March 19, 2011, 11:55:00 PM
Wouldn't it be ironic if OblaBla does the job Reagan should have finished in '86?

First off, dumbass, what job should Reagan have finished?  He did what needed to be done--no more, no less.  Second, Obama can TRY to take credit for it if in fact Qaddafi leaves, but virtually NOBODY is going to see through that bullshit.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2011, 12:32:32 AM »
Hey MORON, don't you jackass me. Reagan should have put a missile up Quaddaffy's ass in '86 and GHWB should have put a bullet in Husseins head during GW1. Screw the the pissants at the UN and their half assed mandates.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2011, 12:38:41 AM »
Quote from: beefeater on March 20, 2011, 12:32:32 AM
Hey MORON, don't you jackass me. Reagan should have put a missile up Quaddaffy's ass in '86 and GHWB should have put a bullet in Husseins head during GW1. Screw the the pissants at the UN and their half assed mandates.

Hmmmm...let's see--were you on AD back in 1986?  No?  Oh wait--I WAS.  I also remember very clearly the events leading up to the attack on Tripoli back then.  To remove him for a nightclub attack would have been just a bit unjustified.

And no, GHWB didn't have the mandate to take out Hussein in GW1 either, despite everyone and his sister knowing full well that we'd have to go back there eventually--and some did. 

It's called "playing by the rules", JACKASS.  Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2011, 02:43:50 AM »
HEMMMMMMMMMMM

I can not think of a better way to dispose of all those missiles  as they approach their[ use by date].   We must have a few hundred warehouses full of these baby's, enough to lend them to the Brits when they run low.

Time to squash that little bully boy and make him cry Uncle.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2011, 04:54:56 AM »
Well, Gadhafi sure knows the all the key words to enflame the hoards.  Now this is a "crusade". :whatever:
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2011, 05:18:52 AM »
I'm seeing reports that three B-2s were used in an attack on airfields.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2011, 06:16:00 AM »
Where are all the liberals shouting about "no declaration of war" like they did with Bush?
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2011, 06:20:32 AM »
Quote from: formerlurker on March 19, 2011, 05:43:51 PM
Exactly.  Are you anti-war? 

No combat veteran that I know is pro-war.  Anyone that has ever been in combat hopes to never have to do it again...  barring a few psychopaths I suppose.
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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2011, 07:34:01 AM »
Quote from: rich_t on March 20, 2011, 06:20:32 AM
No combat veteran that I know is pro-war.  Anyone that has ever been in combat hopes to never have to do it again...  barring a few psychopaths I suppose.

Not exactly my question.   Most combat veterans I know understand war is a necessary evil and will go when their shoulder is tapped. 

The anti-war John Kerry crowd is divorced from reality. 

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Re: US launches first attack against Qaddafi
« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2011, 07:34:50 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on March 20, 2011, 05:18:52 AM
I'm seeing reports that three B-2s were used in an attack on airfields.

Good.  They should bomb the sh^t of out them and call it a day.
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