Minimum wage should be $21.72 per hour.

[Maxiest]

WAIT! I gots a mucho better Idea!
Lets make minimum wage a Million dollars a year! Then we are ALL millionaires!!! AND we all pay higher taxes so the deficit is all better!!!11!

And we are ALL the 1 percent. No more class warfare.

Peace and prosperity in our time...with just the stroke of a pen. This could totally work, dude!
(head explodes)

 

[vesta111]

Strange, I came across in back files a pay stub from 1966.   My take home pay after deductions was $50.00 a week. EX husband was making the same amount and we were living well on the $400.00 a month.

We were looking for a home to buy and came close to buying a home on the water front priced at $3,000. 

Mean while my parents were selling their home for $8,000 with 3 acres of wood land.  They sold for $6,000 and felt they got a good deal.

I look back and wonder what the heck happend to us that has caused us to need more money today. 

When I came home from Tenn. 25 years ago I was working for min wage at $4.11 per hour.  My job up here paid $5.10 per hour.  I did not notice much difference in the food prices or cost to rent.

Question for the old timers, I was aghast to find that as the minimun wage went up, the workers were not given raises  and kept at their same wage.  So a worker that had 15 years in was making only 25 cents more  an hour then a new be that they had to train.

A cluster you know what for the workers that get no raises yet a new worker walks in the door to make more money then they did after 10 years of hard work.

 

[Chris_]

Strange, I came across in back files a pay stub from 1966. 

You should really consider cleaning out your home.

[JohnnyReb]

Apples and oranges should be $8 apiece.

[Maxiest]

Gas should be $15 buck a gallon.

[vesta111]

You should really consider cleaning out your home.

Nah, I framed the sucker and hung it on the wall as a conversation piece when family and friends come in crying poor mouth at only getting $9.00 an hour to start.

So how to save money non taxable.   Go ask the old timers.  First pay yourself, cash that pay check and take out the same amount you tithe to the church if you do so. Stash it away in a mason jar under the bed or floor boards.

Then every day empty pockets and purse of all change and stash it away.  Then when recording checks round it out to the nearest dollar.  Say you write a check for $11.50 record  it as $12.00----Now you have 50 cents more then you though in the bank, it adds up fast.

Have to adjust at the start, cut out those coupons and when you save 50 cents on an item put that 50 cents into a jar.  Say you buy something on sale half off, take the saved money and stash it away.

Cars, say you have a paid off car for 5 years and now it is nickle, dimeing you to death.  Stand back and figure out how much money you would now have to pay for a newer car and the savings you had for the 5 years of no car payments.    Figure the cost, say the car needs $2,000 to keep it on the road for another 5 years,  now figure the cost a newer car will cost you in that same time.   

In the 5 years since pay off you have saved around $15,000 bucks in car payments.  A few thousand to keep it running will save you big bucks in the long run. Take good care of the sucker and you will end up with a classic.

Youth does not know how to save money, We middle aged couple when married could afford to live in nice apartments at a big cost. We found the Ghettos and paid 3/4 less then what we could afford.  After 3 years we had saved up enough to put a down payment on our home and buy all new furniture.

As I look back now both of us were making slightly over the minimun wage, we were crafty in spending, say we desired a night out for dinner and dancing, we calculated the cost, took the money and saved it and ate at home under candle light and danced all night to MTV in the living room.     

[Celtic Rose]

Minimum wage employees make minimum wage for a reason, they are easily replaceable.  Don't like your pay?  Do something to change it.  There are thousands of community colleges that offer very reasonably priced online classes to help people learn new skills, and there are numerous state and federal programs to help people pay for continuing education.  If you are 30 year old and don't have any skills to help you find a job outside of a minimum wage job, then the problem is you, not society. 

I still remember when I was working at my first ever "real" job doing administrative work and book-keeping for a small business, a new coworker was hired who was 10 years or so older than me for the exact same job, and somehow I found out that she was making several dollars more an hour than I was.  I asked my boss why there was such a difference in our pay, and he told that it was because she was older and had to help support her family on her salary.  I was pretty upset about that response, but I sucked it up and kept the job until I left for college. 

[Maxiest]

Minimum wage employees make minimum wage for a reason, they are easily replaceable.  Don't like your pay?  Do something to change it.  There are thousands of community colleges that offer very reasonably priced online classes to help people learn new skills, and there are numerous state and federal programs to help people pay for continuing education.  If you are 30 year old and don't have any skills to help you find a job outside of a minimum wage job, then the problem is you, not society. 

I still remember when I was working at my first ever "real" job doing administrative work and book-keeping for a small business, a new coworker was hired who was 10 years or so older than me for the exact same job, and somehow I found out that she was making several dollars more an hour than I was.  I asked my boss why there was such a difference in our pay, and he told that it was because she was older and had to help support her family on her salary.  I was pretty upset about that response, but I sucked it up and kept the job until I left for college. 

Minimum wage is supposed to be a starting wage.  Like people bagging groceries, flipping burgers, and washing cars make.  It has never been intended to raise a family on.

On another note, all of those jobs I just mentioned pay more than that here in Middle Tennessee, and that DUmmies is called the free market.

[Delmar]

Minimum wage is supposed to be a starting wage.  Like people bagging groceries, flipping burgers, and washing cars make.  It has never been intended to raise a family on.

On another note, all of those jobs I just mentioned pay more than that here in Middle Tennessee, and that DUmmies is called the free market.

That's right.  Plus, we need a certain number of low-paying jobs for ex-cons to remind them that there are consequences for their actions.  $21.72/hr is way too much for the dregs of society.

[Maxiest]

That's right.  Plus, we need a certain number of low-paying jobs for ex-cons to remind them that there are consequences for their actions.  $21.72/hr is way too much for the dregs of society.

Although, it doesn't matter... because as stated if the MW was set at $21.72/hr then milk would be about $14 a gallon.  And my little IT job which pays around ~25/hr would pay ~75/hr.

[LC EFA]

Although, it doesn't matter... because as stated if the MW was set at $21.72/hr then milk would be about $14 a gallon.  And my little IT job whish pays around ~25/hr would pay ~75/hr.

One can easy pull $25/hr as semi-skilled (non trade qualified) labor in the construction industry. I kinda liked the work too. Far less stressful and rather more entertaining than my original and formal skills in IT.

[NHSparky]

Dear DUmmies,

My current rate of pay is significantly above your "minimum" wage.  And should minimum wage increase, my wage will go up substantially as well eventually.  Why?  Because my skill set is not "unskilled"--quite the contrary, it takes many years in the industry to gain the skills and experience necessary to do what I do.  As a member of the military, I worked at/below minimum wage in conditions which would have caused you to assume the fetal position by the end of the first week.  But sucking it up then has paid off big-time now, and will continue to pay dividends until I retire.

Am I the 1 percent?  Nope--but I do well enough to where I don't need "daddy gub'mint" to save my ass, either.

[docstew]

Dear DUmmies,

My current rate of pay is significantly above your "minimum" wage.  And should minimum wage increase, my wage will go up substantially as well eventually.  Why?  Because my skill set is not "unskilled"--quite the contrary, it takes many years in the industry to gain the skills and experience necessary to do what I do.  As a member of the military, I worked at/below minimum wage in conditions which would have caused you to assume the fetal position by the end of the first week.  But sucking it up then has paid off big-time now, and will continue to pay dividends until I retire.

Am I the 1 percent?  Nope--but I do well enough to where I don't need "daddy gub'mint" to save my ass, either.

That's enough right there for them to classify you as an enemy of the people. Anyone who is independent will fight back against the collective.

[NHSparky]

That's enough right there for them to classify you as an enemy of the people. Anyone who is independent will fight back against the collective.

If I'm an enemy of the DUmp, then I know I'm doing something right with my life.

[BlueStateSaint]

If I'm an enemy of the DUmp, then I know I'm doing something right with my life.

H5 for that.  IIRC, someone significant--it might have been Will Rogers--said something to the effect of, 'You can take the measure of a man by who his enemies are.'