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primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« on: June 03, 2008, 07:20:12 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3373471

Oh my.

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Breeze54  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 01:35 AM
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Test your knowledge! Can you pass the Civics Quiz?
   
Civics Quiz

http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx

Test your knowledge by answering the sixty multiple-choice questions below.

You must answer all questions. When you are finished, use the button at the bottom to submit your quiz for scoring. You will be given a score for the number of questions you answered correctly. For those questions you missed, the appropriate answer will be provided.

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You answered 41 out of 60 correctly — 68.33 %

(not to shabby for taking the quiz after 2 cocktails!)

Average score for this quiz during June: 71.6%
Average score since September 18, 2007: 71.6%

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NO COLLEGE EARNED BETTER THAN A “D+”

Rank - College - Mean Senior Score (2006) (% correct)

1. Harvard University 69.56%
2. Grove City College (PA) 67.26
3. Washington & Lee University (VA) 66.98
4. Yale University 65.85
5. Brown University 65.64
6. University of Virginia 65.28
7. Wheaton College (IL) 64.98
8. University of Pennsylvania 63.49
9. Duke University 63.41
10. Bowdoin College (ME) 62.86
11. Princeton University 61.90
12. University of Notre Dame 61.25
13. Rhodes College (TN) 61.18
14. Smith College (MA) 60.07
15. University of Rochester (NY)* 59.32
16. University of Wisconsin 57.87
17. University of Georgia* 57.76
18. University of North Carolina 57.68
19. Cornell University 56.95
20. Carnegie Mellon University* 56.90
21. Calvin College (MI) 56.45
22. University of California-Berkeley 56.27
23. University of Washington 55.88
24. Concordia University (NE)* 55.28
25. University of Minnesota-Twin Cities* 53.50
26. University of Florida 53.40
27. Iowa State University* 52.69
28. University of Montana* 52.16
29. Gonzaga University (WA) 51.86
30. University of Michigan 51.00
31. Illinois State University* 50.93
32. Mississippi State University* 50.86
33. Rutgers University* 49.99
34. George Mason University (VA) 49.96
35. Murray State University (KY)* 49.75
36. University of Mississippi 49.32
37. IdahoState University* 48.15
38. University of Massachusetts-Amherst* 46.66
39. Mount Vernon Nazarene University (OH)* 44.60
40. Pfeiffer University (NC)* 44.30
41. St. Cloud State University (MN)* 44.26
42. Texas State University-San Marcos* 43.99
43. Georgia College and State University* 43.68
44. University of Southern Maine* 43.58
45. Marian College (WI)* 43.10
46. Texas A&M International University* 41.14
47. Eastern Connecticut State University* 40.99
48. St. John’s University (NY)* 39.82
49. Oakwood College (AL)* 34.69
50. St. Thomas University (FL)* 32.50

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But I thought everyone that went to an ivy league college was really, really smarter than everyone else!

BTW? Please share your score, if you are willing.

I suspect the breezy primitive was making a slam at my fellow alum Skins, in its next-to-last comment.

However, one suspects the breezy primitive might be right.

Anyway, franksolich took the quiz.

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You answered 58 out of 60 correctly — 96.67 %
Average score for this quiz during June: 72.4%
Average score since September 18, 2007: 72.4%

Answers to Your Missed Questions:
Question #53 - B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it.
Question #58 - B. An increase in the volume of commercial bank loans.

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XemaSab  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 01:54 AM
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1. 83.33%
   
That was a TOUGH one.

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mycritters2  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 02:00 AM
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5. Me too! 83.33! I knew I was screwing up some of the economics answers.
   
One can't know everything!

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Breeze54  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 02:11 AM
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15. I think the economic questions were out of line, myself.
   
I don't think very many people at all know about the GNP and how it works and I doubt it's a question on any citizen test.

It's a big bonfire.

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galledgoblin  Donating Member  (499 posts) Mon Jun-02-08 08:04 PM
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114. same here, 50 out of 60 correct
   
several of the questions I got wrong are making me question when this test was written. in 2000 I would have agreed that real incomes among the lower and middle classes were up over the previous 40 years, but today, almost a decade later? every paper I've read outside of those from the Chicago School of economics says we may be earning more but it's worth less and we don't get to take as much of it home because it's all sent away to pay off loans... unless I've confused my definition of "Real" income.

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Canuckistanian  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 01:59 AM
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4. I got 73.33%
   
And I'm not even a citizen of America.

You are however, sir, a primitive.

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Breeze54  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 02:15 AM
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20. Outstanding but you live at DU, so there's the rub!

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Canuckistanian  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 06:40 PM
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101. Yes, how depressing
   
"You live at DU".

The sad part is, you're right. I have no life outside of this maddening, exhilarating, stimulating, artificial place.

Oh well. Gotta live somewhere!

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sfexpat2000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 02:30 AM
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33. What the hell was Marbury vs. Madison? I can't remember --
   
it always sounds like a tennis match to me.

Doug's ex-wife didn't post her score; one suspects it wasn't very good.

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sfexpat2000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 02:29 AM
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30. Damn, I closed the window. It was a little over 76% and I'm surprised I did that well.

Oh.

Yeah, and franksolich is surprised it was that high too.

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sfexpat2000  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 02:44 AM
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43. I'm so surprised I even got 50%.
   
I remember fighting sleepiness in Civics class every day. And for American History, I had a great teacher but all I really did was memorize for the tests because all the wrong stuff interested me. How many Southern generals do you need in real life, anyway? And Econ, forGET it. lol

Then the primitives chitter-chatter about how economics shouldn't have been part of the test, because "nobody knows economics," "economics aren't important," and "liberalism is heart, not economics."

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beac  Donating Member  (307 posts) Mon Jun-02-08 02:50 AM
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44. 76.67 %
   
which I'm not super proud of... though most of the ones I got wrong I had whittled down to a choice of two and chose poorly.

Still I did better than Harvard and my own alma mater.

Was anyone else surprised that the amswer to the last question was "social security" and not "military"? I thought the Iraq debacle would have put it at the top of the list.

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Breeze54  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 02:57 AM
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47. Uh...
   
# 60. )The Federal government’s largest pay out over the past twenty years has been for:

A. military.
B. social security.
C. interest on the national debt.
D. education.
E. foreign aid.

I chose 'A' because I hear about the Pentagon's massive budget all the time and that the military gets the lion's share of the $$ usually.

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DB1  Donating Member  (773 posts) Mon Jun-02-08 07:49 PM
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113. 76.67 here as well, also got no. 60 wrong, I thought military for sure.

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Qutzupalotl  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 07:23 PM
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109. Likewise.
   
Also got tripped up on the social security question.

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Breeze54  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 03:58 AM
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72. LOL...Hey? I have a LIST of errors!!
   
Answers to Your Missed Questions:.... OUCH!!!!!

Question #1 - D. 1601-1700 (I was off by ONE year!!)
Question #2 - B. stressed the sinfulness of all humanity.
Question #3 - C. Indirect democracy
Question #5 - D. Yorktown
Question #7 - B. Fort Sumter, Gettysburg, Appomattox. (Is that like chicken pox?)
Question #9 - B. was a stalemate.
Question #19 - C. philosopher kings. (Oy)
Question #22 - A. legislative, executive, and judicial powers should be dispersed. (I KNOW that's what I answered!)
Question #26 - D. John Locke. (LOST!!!!)
Question #34 - B. President Washington's Farewell Address. (oops!)
Question #36 - D. The authority of a legitimate sovereign.)
Question #37 - C. North Atlantic Treaty Organization. ( Huh?)
Question #39 - D. Alexis de Tocqueville’s Democracy in America. (Doh!)
Question #49 - B. individual citizens create, exchange, and control goods and resources. (Could've fooled me!... err... did!)
Question #51 - A. Gross Domestic Product (I hate this shit and it's NOT Civics!)
Question #54 - D. can be reversed by government spending more than it taxes. (Who knew?)
Question #55 - E. increased for the lower and middle classes and increased most for the upper class. (That seems out of whack)
Question #58 - B. An increase in the volume of commercial bank loans. (Gheesh!)
Question #60 - B. social security. (Military... Ok...Both!)

The primitives don't know shit about anything.
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2008, 07:30:32 AM »
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3)   The Constitution of the United States established what form of government?
A. Direct democracy
B. Populism
C. Indirect democracy
D. Oligarchy
E. Aristocracy

 :wtf2:

Maybe the creators of this poll should get some education.

BTW, wonder how many of those jackasses at DU picked Direct Democracy.
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2008, 07:49:52 AM »
I'm still intrigued by the primitives commenting economics isn't "important" because the primitives themselves aren't interested in economics.

One wonders what the primitives would think if franksolich said science isn't "important" because franksolich isn't interested in science.

However, despite my lack of interest in science, doesn't mean I don't think it's important.

The primitives are such, such, such.....ah, forget it.
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2008, 07:53:41 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on June 03, 2008, 07:30:32 AM
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3)   The Constitution of the United States established what form of government?
A. Direct democracy
B. Populism
C. Indirect democracy
D. Oligarchy
E. Aristocracy

 :wtf2:

Maybe the creators of this poll should get some education.

BTW, wonder how many of those jackasses at DU picked Direct Democracy.

I 'glazed' over those questions while drinking a first cup of coffee.  That one gave me pause too.  Answer C is close, but it isn't acurate.    
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2008, 08:59:15 AM »
The primitives are pretty good at regurgitating what they've been told to believe, but that's about it.  Even then, from time to time, one of them wanders off the reservation and has to be reeled back in or TS'd.

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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2008, 09:14:34 AM »
The scary thing is the low scores of the universities. Says a lot about what liberals can do to fine institutions in short periods of time.

I got 55/60 and yes, some questions you have to pick the closest answer not the correct one.
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2008, 08:52:31 PM »
I got a 51/60.... I missed mostly the writings/literate questions, and a few dates.
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2008, 09:43:39 PM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on June 03, 2008, 07:53:41 AM
Quote from: Rebel on June 03, 2008, 07:30:32 AM
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3)   The Constitution of the United States established what form of government?
A. Direct democracy
B. Populism
C. Indirect democracy
D. Oligarchy
E. Aristocracy

 :wtf2:

Maybe the creators of this poll should get some education.

BTW, wonder how many of those jackasses at DU picked Direct Democracy.

I 'glazed' over those questions while drinking a first cup of coffee.  That one gave me pause too.  Answer C is close, but it isn't acurate.   

That one bugged me, too.  Why they didn't list "Representative Republic" (the correct answer) is beyond me.

This really wasn't a true "Civics" exam.  It was a combined History/Civics exam -- a lot of "when did this happen" stuff.  Civics should deal with the "eras" of the US, not the dates of thos eras.

I was 78% or so.
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2008, 01:11:46 AM »
51/60 - 85%

Hey, it's a solid "C", right? :-)
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2008, 03:07:22 AM »
You answered 59 out of 60 correctly — 98.33 %
Average score for this quiz during June: 71.2%
Average score since September 18, 2007: 71.2%

You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average.


I knew those economics courses would come in handy for something somewhere along the line.

The only one I got wrong:

14)   During which period was the American Constitution amended to guarantee women the right to vote?
A. 1850-1875
B. 1876-1900
C. 1901-1925
D. 1926-1950
E. 1951-1975

Answers to Your Missed Questions:

Question #14 - C. 1901-1925

That amendment was a mistake anyways.   :-)  :fuelfire:

As far as the controversy regarding the third question, I'm pretty sure that "indirect democracy" could be considered an umbrella term, with "Democratic Republic" being an example thereof.
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2008, 05:41:28 AM »
I bet the DUmmies would do better on this test.

http://www.sparknotes.com/biography/lenin/quiz.html
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 05:49:25 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on June 05, 2008, 05:41:28 AM
I bet the DUmmies would do better on this test.

http://www.sparknotes.com/biography/lenin/quiz.html

Oh my.

I scored only 78% on that quiz, although I rather suspect the primitives would score higher.
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2008, 07:04:01 AM »
You answered 56 out of 60 correctly — 93.33 %
Average score for this quiz during June: 71.2%
Average score since September 18, 2007: 71.2%

You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only count once toward the monthly average.

If you have any comments or questions about the quiz, please email americancivicliteracy@isi.org.

You can consult the following table to see how freshmen and seniors scored on each question as part of the survey administration.
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Answers to Your Missed Questions:

Question #14 - C. 1901-1925
Question #19 - C. philosopher kings.
Question #35 - A. discouraged new colonies in the Western hemisphere.
Question #54 - D. can be reversed by government spending more than it taxes.

Not too bad, considering how long it's been since I took a civics course. I actually knew the correct answer to 54, but didn't read the options carefully enough.
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Re: primitives boast of their lack of knowledge
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2008, 11:15:45 AM »
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You answered 55 out of 60 correctly — 91.67 %
Average score for this quiz during June: 71.0%
Average score since September 18, 2007: 71.0%

Answers to Your Missed Questions:

Question #19 - C. philosopher kings.
Question #24 - D. A political system where state and national governments share power.
Question #36 - D. The authority of a legitimate sovereign.
Question #53 - B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it.
Question #58 - B. An increase in the volume of commercial bank loans.

What felgercarb!
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