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The “blame Bush” strategy flamed out in Massachusetts so they’re moving on to an even more substantive Plan B.

“Given the pressure Republican candidates feel from the extreme right in their party, there is a critical – yet time-sensitive –opportunity for Democratic candidates,” a DSCC memo, obtained by CNN, states. “We have a finite window when Republicans candidates will feel susceptible to the extremists in their party. Given the urgent nature of this dynamic, we suggest an aggressive effort to get your opponents on the record.”

Specifically, the DSCC wants Democratic candidates to pin down their likely opponents on several hot-button issues, including:

- Do you believe that Barack Obama is a U.S.citizen?
- Do you think the Tenth Amendment bars Congress from issuing regulations like minimum healthcare coverage standards?
- Do you think programs like Social Security and Medicare represent socialism, and should never have been created in the first place?
- Do you think President Obama is a socialist?
- Do you think America should return to a gold standard?


Honestly, it’s not a bad strategy. They’ve got nothing left to offer independents, as Brown’s win proved only too well, and they’re too fatally compromised by ObamaCare to recast themselves as small-government types now. If they want to win the center, their best bet — which doesn’t mean it’s a good bet — is to screech about “birthers, ‘baggers, and blowhards,” as Bob Beckel so memorably put it. Besides, these are all good wedge issues to help sow dissent in the Republican ranks. How will McCain answer the Social Security question knowing that Hayworth’s bearing down on him?

After this leaked, the GOP came up with its own list of wedge questions for Republican candidates to use against their opponents. Follow the link and see which side’s talking points are more relevant to the national debate. Exit quotation: “Do you agree with the Obama Administration that terrorists should be afforded the same rights as American citizens, tried in American courtrooms, and ultimately held on American soil?”
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What the Republicans should ask the DimRat candidates:

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Do you believe the $787 billion "stimulus" bill worked? Would you support a second so-called "stimulus" bill, even though the first failed to create much-needed jobs? Or do you believe the unspent money should be returned to the taxpayers?

Are you willing to hold open discussions to reach an agreement on bipartisan health care reform, or will you continue to support backroom deals - such as the Cornhusker Kickback - in order to ram an unpopular and costly government-run health care bill through Congress?

Do you support the half-trillion dollars in Medicare cuts proposed in the Democrats’ health care bill, and do you believe that those cuts will strengthen Medicare? If so, would you support a stand-alone bill to "strengthen" Medicare by cutting a half-trillion dollars?

Do you support the almost half-trillion dollars in new taxes contained in the Democrats’ health care bill? If so, do you believe raising taxes during a recession is the right thing to do?

Do you support increasing the nation’s debt limit by yet another $2 trillion?

Do you support the contentious and costly cap-and-trade legislation, or will you stand up for families, seniors, and small business owners who cannot afford to pay for a costly tax increase every time they turn on their lights or go about their day-to-day lives?

Do you believe the Obama Administration was correct when they gave the Christmas Day bomber a lawyer and the right to remain silent before our intelligence professionals had the opportunity to question him about other potential attacks on the United States?

Do you agree with the Obama Administration that terrorists should be afforded the same rights as American citizens, tried in American courtrooms, and ultimately held on American soil?
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You must be ****ing kidding me. :whatever:

I pretty much figured the "birthers" are the Republican equivalent of 9/11 truthers.  I know they're still out there, but if this is all the Dems are going to run on.... :lmao: :lmao:
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How the hell did the Democrat party win the majority?

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How the hell did the Democrat party win the majority?

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As the DUmmies are fond of pointing out, there are lots of idiots in this country, and they vote for Dimrats most of the time.

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- Do you believe that Barack Obama is a U.S.citizen?

Doesn't matter.  This is an election between myself and (insert candidate)

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- Do you think the Tenth Amendment bars Congress from issuing regulations like minimum healthcare coverage standards?

Yes.  Let the states set their own standards.

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- Do you think programs like Social Security and Medicare represent socialism, and should never have been created in the first place?

Yes.  People in need can be much better served in a more efficient manner by private organizations rather than the cumbersome Federal Government.

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- Do you think President Obama is a socialist?

No.  He's a Statist who follows "Rules For Radicals" to the letter.

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- Do you think America should return to a gold standard?

Only if you want to wreck our economy and that of several other nations around the world.

And besides that's a question better asked of Ron Paul and the Libertarian Party.  I'm a Republican...not a cultist.
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Hi,

My big question for the democrats is this.

Do you believe it is your job in congress to represent those who hired you as opposed to special interest groups?

If so, why then would you vote for a stimulus package, a cap and trade bill and a health care bill all opposed by almost 2/3 of the American people.

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Re: Dems’ new midterm strategy: Make the election about … Birtherism
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How the hell did the Democrat party win the majority?

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Lying through their teeth.

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Lying through their teeth.

Pretty much:

During the campaign - 'Make me President and I can fix everything!'

One year later - 'The American people just have their expectations set too high, they don't realize that the President can't just fix everything!'
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How the hell did the Democrat party win the majority?

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Republicans gave it to them.
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Pretty much:

During the campaign - 'Make me President and I can fix everything!'

One year later - "It's Bush's fault"

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You know, I really do hope that the commucrats make a big deal out of the birth certificate.  If they do, it'll make that issue front and center for a very short campaign season.
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Republicans gave it to them.

Yeah, they never get tired of the Blame Bush thing, but I wasn't kidding on my post, the second meme about the poor ol' Office of the President's limitations are exactly what they are trying to float in the media now, I have heard the idea somewhat-subtly being ventured on entertainment media this week.
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I heard today that he said he would be happy with being a one term POTUS well if he keeps up with what he is doing that is all he will be
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How the hell did the Democrat party win the majority?

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Because the Republicans got a triple-whammy of a political loss - the Bush admin's plummeting approval ratings circa 2007-8 kicked it off, and then the exceptionally poor choice of Sarah Palin as a VP candidate helped erode the Republican voting base's confidence in their own party enough for the Democrats to deliver haymakers in the congressional elections.

Funny thing is, though, that as soon as the Democrats realized they had this majority, all the talk of bipartisanship went completely out of the window. Instead, they decided it would just be easier to trample the opposition.

This is why we have the Tea Party movement. When I talk to people on liberal forums, it's amazing that they fail to recognize this simple fact. Who in hell wouldn't be concerned by a political party that simply wants to ramrod legislation through at all levels?

Of course, 107 filibusters in a year isn't such a good track record, either.

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Because the Republicans got a triple-whammy of a political loss - the Bush admin's plummeting approval ratings circa 2007-8 kicked it off, and then the exceptionally poor choice of John McCain as a presidential candidate helped erode the Republican voting base's confidence in their own party enough for the Democrats to deliver haymakers in the congressional elections.

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and then the exceptionally poor choice of Sarah Palin as a VP candidate helped erode the Republican voting base's confidence in their own party enough

What???? Maybe the RINO portion of the party was disappointed, not THIS conservative.  IMO Palin isn't Presidential material but VP was fine by me.
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Well, I might have been a little off-base with that one, and I'll agree with you on McCain also being a terrible presidential choice.

I guess I was thinking along the lines of Palin being next in the line of succession... or maybe just that running somebody as 'brainy' as Palin after eight years of Cheney's shrewd attitude as VP was a no-no.

But yeah, generally - agreed.

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and then the exceptionally poor choice of Sarah Palin as a VP candidate helped erode the Republican voting base's confidence in their own party enough

What???? Maybe the RINO portion of the party was disappointed, not THIS conservative.  IMO Palin isn't Presidential material but VP was fine by me.

Compared to Biden on their ticket?  Hell yeah.  At least she isn't brain-damaged/senile (Whichever Joe is, if not both).  McCain would've been astoundingly lucky to break 40% if she hadn't been on the ticket. 
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At least she isn't brain-damaged/senile (Whichever Joe is, if not both)

More of a grade A dumbass, IMHO.

Anyway, back to the OP, right now I'd say the Republicans have some very legitimate ammo to throw at the Democrats, who have made some of the most financially stupid decisions in our country's fiscal history lately. The Democrats trying to paint all conservatives/parts of conservative movements as racist loonies, etc., is not really that surprising.

I'm not that confident that seeing Republicans back in office would be that much better, though. At least not most Republican candidates. Republican, Democrat, most of them are corporate sellouts either way.

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More of a grade A dumbass, IMHO.


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Well, a lot here will disagree with you on that one, Doppelganger, but in the event she's lucky McCain lost, because if he'd won she would have been permanently associated with John-boy's stupidest ideas, like some variation of cap-and-trade, as well as a Democrat-dominated Congress slipping the shiv to both of them at every opportunity with the press all too eager to pile on any misstep and paint the roadblocks in Congress as his fault. 

You can buy into the 'She's sure no genius' propaganda if you wish, but some of the most dangerous and/or nutty Presidents we've ever had were supposed to be big super-smart guys, like Woodrow Wilson and of course Jimmuh and OhBummer.  The best have been men who, while intelligent, more importantly had the character to stand for their principles, a vision of what policies would be needed to address them, and had the fundamental common sense and humility to see eyeball to eyeball with opponents and allies instead of looking down on them form a perch of superiority.  A great academic record really seems to be a completely crappy predictor of Presidential performance.
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DT: Well, that's very true. Academic performance definitely isn't an indicator of presidential performance. And Obama has proved to be about as effective as Carter, and albeit less trustworthy.

There's still something about Palin I fundamentally distrust or don't like though - she just doesn't seem to be good leader material to me. She just seems a little too self-absorbed, as demonstrated by moves like dropping out as gov. of Alaska.

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There's still something about Palin I fundamentally distrust or don't like though - she just doesn't seem to be good leader material to me. She just seems a little too self-absorbed, as demonstrated by moves like dropping out as gov. of Alaska.

A little too self absorbed?  As compared to who?

Sarah actually ran a state and a business (without "feminist" help), busted up a very entrenched good ol' boys political network in Alaska, and did not drive the state into bankruptcy.

Not good leader material?  The only one of the four candidates last fall to have any executive experience?  Really?
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