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Offline thundley4

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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2009, 09:23:42 AM »
It would help if the MSM would report on the refusal of TARP repayments.  So far I've only seen it on blogs and FNC. Granted , I don't watch any other news, but it seems like this would be a big story.
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2009, 07:44:38 PM »
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2009, 07:46:29 PM »
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2009, 08:17:32 PM »
If the EPA hadn't forced "emissions control" upon our auto companies, they wouldn't have had any trouble raising the mileage rates.  What's happened to them was that the Dim elements in government screwed them with the emissions control crap, then the Dim elements in unions screwed them with endless demands...and when they were finally pushed over the edge by the Dim-goverment demands on mileage and the Dim-government-created recession from the Dim-written CRA, the Dim-government decided to own them.  They'd have been far better off going through bankruptcy.  That would have set the judiciary against the unions and the feds, and GM could have snuck away relatively whole.  It would also have avoided the irrational and horrifying spectacle of the President of the United States firing the CEO of a private company...as though he, personally, owned that company.  What he did was  :bird: the board and every stock owner.
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2009, 08:46:48 PM »
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2009, 09:12:07 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on April 07, 2009, 09:23:42 AM
It would help if the MSM would report on the refusal of TARP repayments.  So far I've only seen it on blogs and FNC. Granted , I don't watch any other news, but it seems like this would be a big story.



The banks need to spend a bit of money on huge outdoor advertising, tell the folks they'd like to repay the loan but this regime refuses to allow it.. buncha damn Marxists.
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2009, 09:13:51 PM »
Quote from: Willow on April 07, 2009, 09:12:07 PM


The banks need to spend a bit of money on huge outdoor advertising, tell the folks they'd like to repay the loan but this regime refuses to allow it.. buncha damn Marxists.

Would their advertising costs be tax deductible ?  :rotf:
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2009, 09:14:45 PM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on April 07, 2009, 08:17:32 PM
It would also have avoided the irrational and horrifying spectacle of the President of the United States firing the CEO of a private company...as though he, personally, owned that company.  What he did was  :bird: the board and every stock owner.

Just dipping the toes into that National Socialist (aka fascist) pool, seeing if the people are willing to jump in...
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2009, 09:19:58 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on April 07, 2009, 09:13:51 PM
Would their advertising costs be tax deductible ?  :rotf:



yep! operating costs.. obamalama dosen't want them to give the money back.. that way he and the DUmbocrats can tell them who to loan money to.. which is what put us in this frickin mess to begin with! cripes!
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2009, 09:24:19 PM »
Question for Lamie--ur--sorry--Lanie:

You seem to think that because GM took money from the government the president, with no constitutional authority, can re-order the board of directors, set standards etc.

GM currently advertises on the Rush Limbaugh show.

What if the dems insisted GM stop advertising on his show because they didn't want "their" company associated with his content but the marketing dept. said they still wanted to reach 20 to 30 million listeners each week?

Constitutionally, legally and ethically: Who should prevail?
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2009, 09:31:40 PM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on April 07, 2009, 09:24:19 PM
Question for Lamie--ur--sorry--Lanie:

You seem to think that because GM took money from the government the president, with no constitutional authority, can re-order the board of directors, set standards etc.

GM currently advertises on the Rush Limbaugh show.

What if the dems insisted GM stop advertising on his show because they didn't want "their" company associated with his content but the marketing dept. said they still wanted to reach 20 to 30 million listeners each week?

Constitutionally, legally and ethically: Who should prevail?

That's a trick question, because none of those three things apply to 0Bama, at least in the eyes of his worshipers.
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2009, 12:13:26 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on April 07, 2009, 09:24:19 PM


did you see the new GM-Segway vehicle??

Its going to be the future I guess.
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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2009, 11:33:43 AM »
can anyone tell me what a "targeted bankruptcy" is? There was some union fellow on Fox this morning saying GM was looking at targeted bankruptch that would put some sort of pressure on the bond holders and force them to pay. I don't understand what he is talking about.
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2009, 11:39:15 AM »
Quote from: Willow on April 08, 2009, 11:33:43 AM
can anyone tell me what a "targeted bankruptcy" is? There was some union fellow on Fox this morning saying GM was looking at targeted bankruptch that would put some sort of pressure on the bond holders and force them to pay. I don't understand what he is talking about.

My understanding is GM wants to isolate their various divisions.  They want to carry on with the good and bankrupt the bad.
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2009, 11:44:40 AM »
Quote from: Willow on April 08, 2009, 11:33:43 AM
can anyone tell me what a "targeted bankruptcy" is? There was some union fellow on Fox this morning saying GM was looking at targeted bankruptch that would put some sort of pressure on the bond holders and force them to pay. I don't understand what he is talking about.

I thought a bond holder would be someone that has loaned GM money and is wanting their money back. Knowing the current criminal admisministration their idea of a targeted bankruptcy would leave most bond holders holding the bag, while letting the UAW continue under their current contracts.  0Bama cannot let the UAW take a hit on this, for purely political reasons.
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2009, 12:55:50 PM »
Quote from: Willow on April 08, 2009, 11:33:43 AM
can anyone tell me what a "targeted bankruptcy" is? There was some union fellow on Fox this morning saying GM was looking at targeted bankruptch that would put some sort of pressure on the bond holders and force them to pay. I don't understand what he is talking about.

its not a real bankruptcy but a political ones. Its meant to protect the UAW jobs at Government Motors. O will force them to close down their 'profitable' truck and SUV plants in southern states and promose them more taxpayer support I am guessing.
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2009, 01:02:12 PM »
Quote from: FGL on April 08, 2009, 12:55:50 PM
its not a real bankruptcy but a political ones. Its meant to protect the UAW jobs at Government Motors. O will force them to close down their 'profitable' truck and SUV plants in southern states and promose them more taxpayer support I am guessing.



I went to fox to get the video,, and for some reason it skips over and will not load. Methinks someone is going to get screwed over..http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=4257723&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/americasnewsroom/index.html

it's titled "car trouble GM inches toward bankruptcy."




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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2009, 01:08:31 PM »
Quote from: Willow on April 08, 2009, 01:02:12 PM


I went to fox to get the video,, and for some reason it skips over and will not load. Methinks someone is going to get screwed over..http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=4257723&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/americasnewsroom/index.html

it's titled "car trouble GM inches toward bankruptcy."




bondholder
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The owner of a bond. In addition to receiving regular interest payments and the return of principal, bondholders are given precedence over stockholders in case of asset liquidation.


I just tried that video in 3 separate browsers, and they all skipped to the next story. WTF?
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2009, 01:14:03 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on April 08, 2009, 01:08:31 PM
I just tried that video in 3 separate browsers, and they all skipped to the next story. WTF?





curious isn't it?
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« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2009, 01:19:16 PM »
Quote from: Willow on April 08, 2009, 01:14:03 PM




curious isn't it?

Definitely since I've haven't seen Fox hide things like that before.
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Re: What's happening with GM.
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2009, 09:52:15 PM »
Ha! a lady from Canada sent me a link that works! Try this.


http://www.foxnews.com/video-search/m/22077151/car-trouble.htm




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