Onlooker (1000+ posts) Sat Feb-09-08 03:33 PM
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14. Of course they do
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 03:33 PM by Onlooker
Clearly, the McCain-Bush approach has not worked. There are more people dying from terrorism, not fewer. The Democratic approach to stabilizing the situation is withdrawing from Iraq, engaging in diplomacy, and pressuring our allies. Through that appproach, maybe we can create an environment where stable enough governments exist that can reign in the sort of nuts who turn the unwitting into suicide bombers.
I'd like to know how that works, exactly, and maybe if there's a moonbat lurking out there somewhere they can explain it to me?
We're already engaged in diplomacy with Iraq's sovereign government. They are the recognized state authority in Iraq, not the terrorists. Are you saying we should give the same diplomatic weight to them as the actual legitimate government of Iraq? How would the democratically-elected government of Iraq feel about that? It sounds to me no different than proposing we deal with murderers and other criminals here in the U.S. through "diplomatic" channels.
The terrorists in Iraq have had more than ample opportunity to enter the political process. They could have taken their case directly to the government, ran candidates for office, gained consensus support from the citizenry, presented their ideas and their case for why the U.S. should leave and hash it out in a civilized manner. That's what people who would be responsive to "diplomacy" would be doing, right? When have they even given that a chance?
No, they've been showing their collective asses since day one. They didn't even wait to see how the elections would turn out before they started maiming and killing their own countrymen. Can a DUmmy please tell me how that is "patriotic", how that is fighting for the freedom of Iraq? Throw me a bone here. Wouldn't we have less justification for being in Iraq if the country was peaceful? Less of a presence among the populace? Less of an excuse to intervene in their affairs? It almost sounds like, through their continued efforts to destabilize the country, they
want us to stay there. They certainly aren't doing the things that would minimize our justification for staying there in strength.
Also, what part of the forcible creation of Sharia Law, contrary to the will of the people and involving the violent overthrow of the currently democratically-elected government, is open to "diplomatic" negotiation? Please enlighten me. Are we going to tell them, "Sure, you can replace the current government, but you can only hang five homosexuals a day instead of ten."? Is that the diplomatically-reached compromise? How about kinder, gentler rocks to be used in stonings? I'm sure, being the reasonable, amiable sort of folks they are, we won't have any problem negotiating that sort of thing. Hell, we'll even open an embassy for them in Washington. Won't that be nice?
Come and tell me how well-meaning your beloved Freedom Fighters are.
