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Title: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 14, 2013, 09:01:53 PM
Well today I finally got one of my old boxes to lite a monitor with a Gentoo fluxbox desktop. I have been compiling and installing from source as you have to do with Gentoo, for a week now. It has been a learning experience even though I am used to UNIX,Ubuntu and Slackware. I have built a Linux from scratch box years ago but that isn't Gentoo, Gentoo is a different animal but I am looking forward to trying it out and seeing what the buzz is all about in the 133t club.



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Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 16, 2013, 09:13:30 PM
Today I got the system to where it boots with a graphical log in and a file manager OS i can get around without having to use the command line if I want to hehe. All that is left is the "visual" mods. It is a total functional OS at the moment so we will see where this goes from here.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: Chris_ on August 16, 2013, 09:14:03 PM
Today I got the system to where it boots with a graphical log in and a file manager OS i can get around without having to use the command line if I want to hehe. All that is left is the "visual" mods. It is a total functional OS at the moment so we will see where this goes from here.
Let the rest of us know when you finish building your log cabin. We'll come for a visit. :tongue:
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 16, 2013, 09:35:22 PM
Let the rest of us know when you finish building your log cabin. We'll come for a visit. :tongue:

  :tongue: back at ya.....maybe you can stay at the cabin if the Fairlane will drive ya here  :rotf:
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: Chris_ on August 16, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
You're on.

I've given up on getting Linux to run reliably.  I don't have that kind of patience anymore.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 16, 2013, 09:42:59 PM
Every Linix box i have runs more reliably than they did when I wiped that Redmond trash off them, or the ones I have built have more up time than they did with the windoze shite. So dont know what to tell ya.... :popcorn:
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 16, 2013, 10:11:47 PM
What's a Gentoo ****box?
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 16, 2013, 10:36:11 PM
What's a Gentoo ****box?

Gentoo is a distribution of the Linix family of operating systems. The Linux Kernel was originally developed by Linus Torvalds back in the early 90's cause he wanted to have a free version of UNIX more or less. It is very sable but requires the user to know what he is doing...as the saying goes "UNIX IS a user friendly operating system...it is just particular who it is friendly to." Linux distributions have been around sense the mid 90s ish. Your grandson should know a bit about them you can ask him to show you some on the net ...if not I will be more than happy to elaborate. It is a MUCH diffrent world than you are used to but in my opinion a MUCH BETTER WORLD.....
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 16, 2013, 10:39:37 PM
Thanks for the 'splanation!
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 16, 2013, 10:42:10 PM
Your welcome sir if you have any other curiosity's of it let me know.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 16, 2013, 10:48:34 PM
CG6468 By the way I think It was you a few ago that was asking about Macs..their file system is now based on a "UNIX Like" layout since OS 10 if I recall.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 16, 2013, 10:49:36 PM
Your welcome sir if you have any other curiosity's of it let me know.

I believe I've seen it discussed here, but I never pulled the trigger. Now I'm TFO to change too much in my computer exercises.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 16, 2013, 10:50:52 PM
CG6468 By the way I think It was you a few ago that was asking about Macs..their file system is now based on a "UNIX Like" layout since OS 10 if I recall.

Thank you. I'm still getting used to my MACMini. Learning curves, ya know.....
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 16, 2013, 11:06:40 PM
Thank you. I'm still getting used to my MACMini. Learning curves, ya know.....

Yes "learning curves" as you say keeps us on our toes.... I haven't been on the machine you own as of yet but I'm sure you will like it once the "curve" has straightened out. hehe
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 17, 2013, 09:32:58 AM
Yes "learning curves" as you say keeps us on our toes.... I haven't been on the machine you own as of yet but I'm sure you will like it once the "curve" has straightened out. hehe

Mine's the MACMini. It's about 7.5" x 7" x 1" high, and it fits UNDER my LG monitor! MAC MINI /2,3/2X4G/1TB 0 FUSION, SERIAL co7xfly2dy3h, PART NO. ZONP0001S, MACMINI Model A1347, 1.11 T hard drive.

About all I don't like about it is that it has very few USB ports. I bought a powered 3-port USB connector to solve that. I still use the Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse from my now deceased and scrapped previous desktop.

Our grandson set it up to store files for free in the Cloud (the Dropbox) from which it adds all updated files to our laptops as soon as they're started up. I use MS Office 2011 for MAC, and have MS Office 2011 for Windows on the laptops, and the files can be opened on any machine in that machine's format. The Quicken and Family Tree Maker (7800 individuals back to 1560), and other programs operate the same way.

That is super convenient, not having to manually change formats between machines!
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 17, 2013, 08:41:06 PM
Well at least you don't need to relearn any new programs....just where they are and where things are saved...hehe sounds like your getting along good with your new rig.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 17, 2013, 10:53:43 PM
Well at least you don't need to relearn any new programs....just where they are and where things are saved...hehe sounds like your getting along good with your new rig.

I still have some problems with that. I cannot find documents that I know are there. A big search then takes place.

Oh, well. I never claimed to be smart.  :shrug:
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: Chris_ on August 17, 2013, 11:04:20 PM
I have the same issue.  If your stuff doesn't show up when you open the Documents folder, try going through the Computer menu and clicking on Documents from there. 

Also, there should be a default download/save folder that can be changed.  I'm not in front of my W8 computer right now, but it should be in Computer > Organize > Layout.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 17, 2013, 11:06:55 PM
I have the same issue.  If your stuff doesn't show up when you open the Documents folder, try going through the Computer menu and clicking on Documents from there.  

Also, there should be a default download/save folder that can be changed.  I'm not in front of my W8 computer right now, but it should be in Computer > Organize > Layout.

The laptop is no problem. I was referring to the MAC.

HEY! This was my 11,111 post! Do I get a prize for that?  :-)
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: Chris_ on August 17, 2013, 11:07:20 PM
The laptop is no problem. I was referring to the MAC.
You're on your own there.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 19, 2013, 09:07:01 PM
CG do me a favor and find out what version of OS 10 you have from your grandson and I will try to figure out what you need to do to find your docs and files. It should not be that big a deal once we know where to look.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 20, 2013, 09:06:49 AM
It's OS is The Mountain Lion.

I find most of the latest documents and Excel files I work on, but I can't seem to get them into the correct folders.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 20, 2013, 09:45:06 PM
Don't know anything about mountain lion but hehe a computer is a computer as long as there is a internet there will be info...so I guess I better get busy cause the Dummys will figure out how to eff that up to. The file system should be similar to the rest so well see.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: freedumb2003b on August 20, 2013, 09:53:56 PM
I still have some problems with that. I cannot find documents that I know are there. A big search then takes place.

Oh, well. I never claimed to be smart.  :shrug:

W7/8 has a search algorithm guaranteed to ensure your files will never show up in a reasonable search.  If you have a file named "Legal memo to John Black" it will NOT show up in searches for "Legal" "memo" "John" "Black" but you WILL get "Final statement to Brian Green" "email to the Jason Crubb Club"

MS sucks more profoundly than all the college girls guys fantasize about.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 20, 2013, 10:02:03 PM
W7/8 has a search algorithm guaranteed to ensure your files will never show up in a reasonable search.  If you have a file named "Legal memo to John Black" it will NOT show up in searches for "Legal" "memo" "John" "Black" but you WILL get "Final statement to Brian Green" "email to the Jason Crubb Club"

MS sucks more profoundly than all the college girls guys fantasize about.

Ok well if you would have read all the posts in the thread you would know this isn't a Redmont product....

Anywho CG i found this posting about YOUR MAC file system might be some help, evidently they have moved away from the original OSX file system with yours...cheers happy reading. hope this helps.

http://www.apple.com/osx/

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Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 21, 2013, 07:56:23 AM
Anywho CG i found this posting about YOUR MAC file system might be some help, evidently they have moved away from the original OSX file system with yours...cheers happy reading. hope this helps.

http://www.apple.com/osx/

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Thanks for the link! I don't think it answers my questions, but I can always wait until my grandson gets down here again. It'd probably make more sense to someone who used a MAC before with the older OS.

I've begun to store some of the files in folders on the desktop. I just open the folder, click on the document, and it opens up for me. But that's not the way I should have to work it.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 21, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
CG
Found another link that tells me you are more in the boat with Linux these days than what you are used to. I knew that OSX went to a UNIX style system file layout but I didn't know they pretty much used it all. Your files are saved in a Home folder...may be named whatever your grandson set it up to be...may be CG6468  :-) but everything will be saved in there if you are using the web it should be saved in downloads or documents. Anywho here is the link see if it helps...if no invite your grandson over for a grill and beers this weekend (make sure he brings the beer and the grill stuff) and have him help you out. If there was a apple store around here i would pop in and take a look but the only one i know of is other side of town...If I find my self nearby Ill pop in. You have me interested now and I want to know...lol

http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1929167
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 22, 2013, 07:02:10 AM
Thank you very much, biersmythe. You're going way above and beyond what I expected for help with my new MAC, and I truly appreciate it!  :bow2: :bow2:
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 22, 2013, 07:10:50 AM
My folder is my name. Now I'll have some experimenting to do.  :panic:
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 22, 2013, 08:54:13 PM
Glad I could help (hope I helped) When I saw the link I posted to you I knew that is something you should read. That is very similar look of the file system I use everyday on my Linux systems. If you have any other questions let me know I am glad to help if I can.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 23, 2013, 09:22:44 AM
Glad I could help (hope I helped) When I saw the link I posted to you I knew that is something you should read. That is very similar look of the file system I use everyday on my Linux systems. If you have any other questions let me know I am glad to help if I can.

I appreciate it! It's on the back burner for now, because...

I'm busy up to my eyeballs, organizing the annual reunions for Rheem Manufacturing Co., Water heater Division, and the Coast Guard's Western Great Lakes 52nd year annual reunion. I'm on the reunion committees for each of them, and for our HS reunions, too (Class of 1960). The HS reunions are getting to be few and far between; the last one was for 50 years.
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: biersmythe on August 23, 2013, 09:38:29 PM
Well you have fun at the reunion and let me know if there is something else I might be able to help with your computer. Have a great time with reunion!
Title: Re: First Successful Gentoo Install after all these years
Post by: CG6468 on August 23, 2013, 09:48:18 PM
Well you have fun at the reunion and let me know if there is something else I might be able to help with your computer. Have a great time with reunion!

I'll probably have an emotional breakdown after the CG reunion! I just found out that one of my best friends there, and his wife, both of whom I was going to introduce to my wife, will be unable to attend. Dammit!

Oh, well. Into each of our lives some shit must fall........