Levin vs. Beck (Conservative In-fighting.)

[Mustang]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwHzgnCcS_s

http://www.conservativesforum.com/cgi-bin/conservatives-forum/YaBB.pl?num=1253644745/0

Mark Levin tears apart Glenn Beck for saying that McCain would have been worse for the country than Barrack Obama.
Glenn also said Hillary would have been better than McCain, and if you can remember Ann Coulter expressed that sentiment as well a long time ago.

I like Beck and Levin, but Beck is wrong. As much as McCain is a RINO, saying he would have been worse than Obama is ridiculous.

But I don't think Levin should be attacking Beck, as outragious as his comments are.  Beck has a bigger following than Sean Hannity, is putting O'Reilly on his toes. The only person that beats Beck is Limbaugh.

Is Mark Levin looking out for his buddy Sean Hannity because Beck has a bigger following? Or is Levin genuinely angry?

[5412]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwHzgnCcS_s

http://www.conservativesforum.com/cgi-bin/conservatives-forum/YaBB.pl?num=1253644745/0

Mark Levin tears apart Glenn Beck for saying that McCain would have been worse for the country than Barrack Obama.
Glenn also said Hillary would have been better than McCain, and if you can remember Ann Coulter expressed that sentiment as well a long time ago.

I like Beck and Levin, but Beck is wrong. As much as McCain is a RINO, saying he would have been worse than Obama is ridiculous.

But I don't think Levin should be attacking Beck, as outragious as his comments are.  Beck has a bigger following than Sean Hannity, is putting O'Reilly on his toes. The only person that beats Beck is Limbaugh.

Is Mark Levin looking out for his buddy Sean Hannity because Beck has a bigger following? Or is Levin genuinely angry?

Hi,

As things are turning out ANYONE would have been better than BO.   I do not watch Levin so I have a question.  Is anyone, Levin included, pointing out the fact that BO is really a commie with one hell of an organization.  Beck is so powerful he got two million folks in Washington and probably another million all over the rest of the country. 

Whoever is right/wrong about history is one thing.  At the same time they all need to pull together about the present.  Fox could care less about Beck out drawing O'Reilly or Hannity.  They are dominating all time slots in the evening, and now my wife just has fox news on all day for the most part.

regards,
5412

[The Village Idiot]

Discover The Networks.org says McCain showed up at the Soros Shadow Convention to speak while the GOP Convention was happening.

Our open primaries and a lack of any real conservative in the race allowed the farthest of the far left to choose our candidate for us and our candidate was grateful to them.

[Mustang]

I don't like it when I see conservatives fighting each other. Especially when they are genuine conservatives.
Perhaps Glenn was trying to appeal to a broader audience when he said McCain would have been worse than Obama.
I'm not sure he truly believes that himself, it's good that Mark Levin kept Glenn in check but I still don't like the in-fighting.

Remember when Michael Steele (Chr. GOP) said that Limbaugh was insidious entertainment. Rush was really nice about it, he said
"Steele" took the bait from the liberal media, as he was obviously under pressure. And then Steele apologized to Rush and now
Sean, Steele, and Rush have a secret pact amongst each other. The incident was a good example of how the liberal media loves to manipulate the agenda of the conservative movement.

[The Village Idiot]

I don't like it when I see conservatives fighting each other. Especially when they are genuine conservatives.
Perhaps Glenn was trying to appeal to a broader audience when he said McCain would have been worse than Obama.

McCain was the Soros candidate-to-lose. Anyway Levin settled for Mitt Romney and does anyone think MassCare for America would be any different than what the Democrats are offering?

[Mustang]

McCain was the Soros candidate-to-lose.

Is that a fact or a theory?

[JohnnyReb]

If McCain had been elected, the left would have kept to it's slow, methodical march toward socialism.....IOW's...McCain would have played nice with a democrat controlled congress and passed much of what the left wants in one form or another.

Obama came to town and took a giant socialist leap forward and the country started putting the brakes on his ass.....GOOD. The left will get less of it's agenda passed with "Obama the Communist" in power than they would have with a rino McCain. 

[Mustang]

If McCain had been elected, the left would have kept to it's slow, methodical march toward socialism.....IOW's...McCain would have played nice with a democrat controlled congress and passed much of what the left wants in one form or another.

Obama came to town and took a giant socialist leap forward and the country started putting the brakes on his ass.....GOOD. The left will get less of it's agenda passed with "Obama the Communist" in power than they would have with a rino McCain.  

hmmmm...that's an interesting way to look at it.

But the thing is, McCain does not support Obama-care. Nor did he support the stimilus package. The stimilus package that he supported was mostly tax cuts with no pork. McCain is a RINO, but he is not THAT MUCH of a RINO.

McCain does have ...some... integrity. He has a very consistent voting record on pro-life issues and against pork spending.
As much as McCain is a Rino...he is a fiscal conservative.

I would measure John McCain like this:

Conservative                                 RINO
Spending                                                Gitmo
Pro-life                                                   Global Warming
War in Iraq                                             Tax cuts
War in Afghanistan                                   Illegal immigration
                                                            Campaign Finance reform
                                                            Teams up with John Kerry/Ted Kennedy
                                                           

[The Village Idiot]

Is that a fact or a theory?

Soros (owner of the Democrat Party) wanted a sure loser for the GOP nomination. One that would even be grateful for their "support" (discover the networks say he spoke at the Soros Shadow Convention during the GOP Convention). Open borders was all they really needed.

George Soros spent hundreds of millions of dollars taking over the Democrat Party. The GOP was much easier.

[Casey]

Under McCain, [some form of] cap-and-trade would've passed, right? Well, that alone is enough for me to oppose him. I like him personally as well as his foreign policy, but his domestic policy is unacceptable to me.

[DumbAss Tanker]

McCain would have been at the mercy of a Congress completely dominated by the other party and wouldn't have been able to keep his "Bipartisan" impulses in check, he has been a Senator so long I just don't believe he could leave that behind and he would've been shamelessly bitchslapped by them while cutting the ground out from under the remaining GOP Congressmembers.
He would have placed the Green agenda ahead of medical aid though, and we'd be having the same Charlie Foxtrot we are having now over cap-and-trade instead of 'medical insurance reform' (Or whatever the Hell it's being called this week).  On the plus side, he wouldn't be selling the entire Afghan war down the river but I'm not sure the outcome would be any different since authorizing the additional troops is probably the first place Congress would administer a bitchslap.
The GOP brand would have been just as damaged regardless of who won, we just have to face the fact that under the circumstances our candidate was almost as bad for the country as theirs.  McCain would be a passable President if the GOP had the upper hand in Congress, but without that check on his Left-center leanings he just would have become an ineffective tool.

[Splashdown]

McCain would have been at the mercy of a Congress completely dominated by the other party and wouldn't have been able to keep his "Bipartisan" impulses in check, he has been a Senator so long I just don't believe he could leave that behind and he would've been shamelessly bitchslapped by them while cutting the ground out from under the remaining GOP Congressmembers.
He would have placed the Green agenda ahead of medical aid though, and we'd be having the same Charlie Foxtrot we are having now over cap-and-trade instead of 'medical insurance reform' (Or whatever the Hell it's being called this week).  On the plus side, he wouldn't be selling the entire Afghan war down the river but I'm not sure the outcome would be any different since authorizing the additional troops is probably the first place Congress would administer a bitchslap.
The GOP brand would have been just as damaged regardless of who won, we just have to face the fact that under the circumstances our candidate was almost as bad for the country as theirs.  McCain would be a passable President if the GOP had the upper hand in Congress, but without that check on his Left-center leanings he just would have become an ineffective tool.

Very well said, as usual, DAT. I would also add that our congresscritters wouldn't have found their backbone, either.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Very well said, as usual, DAT. I would also add that our congresscritters wouldn't have found their backbone, either.

Thanks, I call 'em as I see 'em.  You're absoloutely right about the GOPers in Congress, that more or less goes with a President McCain cutting the ground out from under them, which he undoubtedly would; they'd have nobody to back their play when McCain sold them out, so the only thing that would stiffen up even a few of them would be playing it for the folks back home who sent them, which is too risky an approach for any of them that aren't from a deeply-Red state or district.  On top of that the GOP national would probably threaten them with backing a challenger in the primaries in reprisal for fighting their own party's President on his stupid decisions. 

[DixieBelle]

Totally agree with DAT's assessment.

[Chris_]

I think we as Republicans need to step up and grow a backbone and not be sitting on the sidelines anymore

[The Village Idiot]

Did anyone see the RedState report that the healthcare might be a blank bill?

 

[DixieBelle]

Yes! I wasn't able to read the whole story though.......how would that pass?

[rich_t]

McCain would have been at the mercy of a Congress completely dominated by the other party and wouldn't have been able to keep his "Bipartisan" impulses in check, he has been a Senator so long I just don't believe he could leave that behind and he would've been shamelessly bitchslapped by them while cutting the ground out from under the remaining GOP Congressmembers.
He would have placed the Green agenda ahead of medical aid though, and we'd be having the same Charlie Foxtrot we are having now over cap-and-trade instead of 'medical insurance reform' (Or whatever the Hell it's being called this week).  On the plus side, he wouldn't be selling the entire Afghan war down the river but I'm not sure the outcome would be any different since authorizing the additional troops is probably the first place Congress would administer a bitchslap.
The GOP brand would have been just as damaged regardless of who won, we just have to face the fact that under the circumstances our candidate was almost as bad for the country as theirs.  McCain would be a passable President if the GOP had the upper hand in Congress, but without that check on his Left-center leanings he just would have become an ineffective tool.

I wish we still had the high 5 function.

[USA4ME]

McCain would have been at the mercy of a Congress completely dominated by the other party and wouldn't have been able to keep his "Bipartisan" impulses in check, he has been a Senator so long I just don't believe he could leave that behind and he would've been shamelessly bitchslapped by them while cutting the ground out from under the remaining GOP Congressmembers.

He would have placed the Green agenda ahead of medical aid though, and we'd be having the same Charlie Foxtrot we are having now over cap-and-trade instead of 'medical insurance reform' (Or whatever the Hell it's being called this week).  On the plus side, he wouldn't be selling the entire Afghan war down the river but I'm not sure the outcome would be any different since authorizing the additional troops is probably the first place Congress would administer a bitchslap.

The GOP brand would have been just as damaged regardless of who won, we just have to face the fact that under the circumstances our candidate was almost as bad for the country as theirs.  McCain would be a passable President if the GOP had the upper hand in Congress, but without that check on his Left-center leanings he just would have become an ineffective tool.

I was going to type something, but this was it.

In summary, you would have had a RINO with no Republicnas opposing the left-leaning views he holds because they didn't want to go against their own president, and the things he did want to do that were right-leaning he would have watered down to play nicey-nice with the Dems.

When it came down realizing either one of the 2 Dems or McCain would be prez, I knew we were sunk.

.

[Ptarmigan]

To sum it up, either McCain or Obama had won, Whoever wins... We lose. 

[Hawkgirl]

Anyone know if Beck responded to his criticism...and if so, what did he say?

I love Levin...but I believe Beck was right in this instance.  It's a lose/lose.

[Chris_]

To sum it up, either McCain or Obama had won, Whoever wins... We lose. 

How very true either way you look at it we were screwed and I hope in the next election we open our eyes a lot sooner to avoid another mistake