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‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« on: October 02, 2008, 11:51:31 AM »
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‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California

(CNSNews.com) - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has vetoed a bill that would have designated May 22 as "Harvey Milk Day," named after the homosexual San Francisco supervisor who was murdered in 1978.
 
Conservative critics said the bill was tantamount to establishing a "Gay Day" in San Francisco schools.
 
In his veto message, Schwarzenegger wrote that he respected the effort to set aside "a day of special significance for California public schools and educational institutions to honor Harvey Milk as an important community leader and public official in the city and county of San Francisco. However, I believe his contributions should continue to be recognized at the local level by those who were most impacted by his contributions,” the governor wrote. “For this reason, I am unable to sign this bill.”

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“Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's veto of this bill is a disappointment to thousands and thousands of Californians who regard Harvey Milk as a national hero," said Equality California Executive Director Geoff Kors.
 
"This is a sad reminder of the lack of understanding of both the LGBT community and of the impact of Harvey Milk. As one of the first openly gay leaders in this country, Milk inspired Americans in every corner of our nation to stand proud in the face of adversity, and he gave his life in the pursuit of equality."


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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2008, 12:05:49 PM »
So what you are saying is that sucking hundreds of ding dongs doesn't rate a person their own day!??!  It isn't like Milk did anything for anyone.  He wasn't a hero.  He was just a fabulous very low politician who never did much of anything but die.
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2008, 12:16:20 PM »
So what you are saying is that sucking hundreds of ding dongs doesn't rate a person their own day!??!  It isn't like Milk did anything for anyone.  He wasn't a hero.  He was just a fabulous very low politician who never did much of anything but die.

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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2008, 12:39:27 PM »
So what you are saying is that sucking hundreds of ding dongs doesn't rate a person their own day!??!  It isn't like Milk did anything for anyone.  He wasn't a hero.  He was just a fabulous very low politician who never did much of anything but die.

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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 02:19:32 PM »
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Harvey Milk’s name appears throughout San Francisco. A municipal railway station and plaza, a park and recreation building and one of the city’s most influential political clubs are all named in his memory. A local elementary school is known as the Harvey Milk Civil Rights Academy, and the Eureka Valley Library is now called the Harvey Milk Branch. The theme for this year’s gay pride parade was “give them hope,” Milk’s inspirational rallying cry from gays and lesbians in San Francisco to their brothers and sisters living in rural America. The International Gay and Lesbian Historical Society is producing an extensive exhibit of Milk memorabilia which includes the blood-stained suit he was wearing when he and Mayor George Moscone were gunned down in San Francisco City Hall on November 27, 1978. Twenty-five years after his murder, Harvey Milk has been catapulted to the level of gay martyr. Without question, he has left his mark on San Francisco.

Despite all the exhibits and memorials of Harvey Milk throughout San Francisco, though, none of them acknowledges Milk’s relationship with Jim Jones and Peoples Temple.

Harvey Milk was able to draw large, diverse crowds during his campaigns, which evolved over time from focusing on the needs of small business owners to championing the politics of senior, poor and other disenfranchised people. As the first openly gay man elected in California, and one of the most prominent gay men in America, Milk’s murder galvanized a politically fractured and fledgling queer community. Longtime political opponents of Milk – and there were many – suppressed their deep-seated negativity, joined with Milk supporters and, over time, fashioned a deified image of him, as is evidenced by the Gay Historical Society’s exhibit which is titled “Saint Harvey.”

When Milk and Moscone were killed, San Franciscans were still reeling from the murder of Representative Leo Ryan and the news that hundreds of Jonestown residents, previously thought to have saved themselves by running into the jungle, were apparently willing participants in a suicide ritual. In the aftermath of their murders all mention of connections between Milk, Moscone and Jones were intentionally obscured. Out of respect for the politicians, their followers took all necessary steps to sever Milk and Moscone from the pariah Jones. It was not the only mass exodus of political support in the wake of the Jonestown tragedy. Politicians who once enjoyed volunteers, donations and votes from Peoples Temple, could not distance themselves from Jim Jones fast enough. Many of these people are still in politics today.

Because Milk and Moscone were murdered so soon after the Jonestown tragedy, there was immediate speculation that Peoples Temple was somehow involved. Ann Kronenberg, Milk’s hand- picked successor, told Milk biographer Randy Shilts, that when she first heard Milk was murdered, she thought Jim Jones was responsible. Rumors began to circulate (and some persist today) of obscure connections between Jim Jones and Milk’s murderer, Dan White. Vague rumors of a falling out between Milk and Jones also surfaced. One story has it that Milk asked Peoples Temple to remove his name from the church’s list of supporters when reports of violence and theft first came to light, and that he was outraged when the Temple failed to comply with his demand. Eventually, history settled on an official story: Jim Jones was a master manipulator who used unwitting local politicians to gain power for himself. The politicians, including Milk and Moscone, used Jones for volunteers and votes, while remaining personally distant and blissfully unaware of rumors of Temple violence, abuse, theft and even murder. The timing of Dan White’s murderous rampage was deemed coincidental.

However, upon closer inspection, it is clear that Harvey Milk was a strong advocate for Peoples Temple and Jim Jones during his political career, including the tumultuous year leading up to the Jonestown tragedy. Milk spoke at the Temple often, wrote personal letters to Jim Jones, contacted other elected officials on the Temple’s behalf, and used space in his weekly column to support the works of the Temple, even after the negative New West article went to press. Milk appeared in the pages of the Peoples Forum, the Temple newspaper, and received over fifty letters of sympathy from the residents of Jonestown when his lover, Jack Lira, killed himself in September 1978.

It is readily apparent from the letters and historical memorabilia that Milk and the Temple enjoyed a mutually supportive relationship until their concurrent deaths. Why then is the relationship such a secret, even taboo to discuss? The only biography of Milk to date, The Mayor of Castro Street, by Randy Shilts, downplays the Milk/Temple relationship, even going so far as to paint Milk as one of the countless people who cruelly ridiculed and ostracized the surviving Temple members and their supporters. Like most historians, Shilts opted for an image of an expedient politician, instead of truthfully portraying how Milk worked with Peoples Temple until the end of his life.
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2008, 02:49:47 PM »
Every once in a while Arnold surprises me and does something right.
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2008, 03:59:29 PM »
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Harvey Milk’s name appears throughout San Francisco. A municipal railway station and plaza, a park and recreation building and one of the city’s most influential political clubs are all named in his memory. A local elementary school is known as the Harvey Milk Civil Rights Academy, and the Eureka Valley Library is now called the Harvey Milk Branch. The theme for this year’s gay pride parade was “give them hope,” Milk’s inspirational rallying cry from gays and lesbians in San Francisco to their brothers and sisters living in rural America. The International Gay and Lesbian Historical Society is producing an extensive exhibit of Milk memorabilia which includes the blood-stained suit he was wearing when he and Mayor George Moscone were gunned down in San Francisco City Hall on November 27, 1978. Twenty-five years after his murder, Harvey Milk has been catapulted to the level of gay martyr. Without question, he has left his mark on San Francisco.

Despite all the exhibits and memorials of Harvey Milk throughout San Francisco, though, none of them acknowledges Milk’s relationship with Jim Jones and Peoples Temple.

Harvey Milk was able to draw large, diverse crowds during his campaigns, which evolved over time from focusing on the needs of small business owners to championing the politics of senior, poor and other disenfranchised people. As the first openly gay man elected in California, and one of the most prominent gay men in America, Milk’s murder galvanized a politically fractured and fledgling queer community. Longtime political opponents of Milk – and there were many – suppressed their deep-seated negativity, joined with Milk supporters and, over time, fashioned a deified image of him, as is evidenced by the Gay Historical Society’s exhibit which is titled “Saint Harvey.”

When Milk and Moscone were killed, San Franciscans were still reeling from the murder of Representative Leo Ryan and the news that hundreds of Jonestown residents, previously thought to have saved themselves by running into the jungle, were apparently willing participants in a suicide ritual. In the aftermath of their murders all mention of connections between Milk, Moscone and Jones were intentionally obscured. Out of respect for the politicians, their followers took all necessary steps to sever Milk and Moscone from the pariah Jones. It was not the only mass exodus of political support in the wake of the Jonestown tragedy. Politicians who once enjoyed volunteers, donations and votes from Peoples Temple, could not distance themselves from Jim Jones fast enough. Many of these people are still in politics today.

Because Milk and Moscone were murdered so soon after the Jonestown tragedy, there was immediate speculation that Peoples Temple was somehow involved. Ann Kronenberg, Milk’s hand- picked successor, told Milk biographer Randy Shilts, that when she first heard Milk was murdered, she thought Jim Jones was responsible. Rumors began to circulate (and some persist today) of obscure connections between Jim Jones and Milk’s murderer, Dan White. Vague rumors of a falling out between Milk and Jones also surfaced. One story has it that Milk asked Peoples Temple to remove his name from the church’s list of supporters when reports of violence and theft first came to light, and that he was outraged when the Temple failed to comply with his demand. Eventually, history settled on an official story: Jim Jones was a master manipulator who used unwitting local politicians to gain power for himself. The politicians, including Milk and Moscone, used Jones for volunteers and votes, while remaining personally distant and blissfully unaware of rumors of Temple violence, abuse, theft and even murder. The timing of Dan White’s murderous rampage was deemed coincidental.

However, upon closer inspection, it is clear that Harvey Milk was a strong advocate for Peoples Temple and Jim Jones during his political career, including the tumultuous year leading up to the Jonestown tragedy. Milk spoke at the Temple often, wrote personal letters to Jim Jones, contacted other elected officials on the Temple’s behalf, and used space in his weekly column to support the works of the Temple, even after the negative New West article went to press. Milk appeared in the pages of the Peoples Forum, the Temple newspaper, and received over fifty letters of sympathy from the residents of Jonestown when his lover, Jack Lira, killed himself in September 1978.

It is readily apparent from the letters and historical memorabilia that Milk and the Temple enjoyed a mutually supportive relationship until their concurrent deaths. Why then is the relationship such a secret, even taboo to discuss? The only biography of Milk to date, The Mayor of Castro Street, by Randy Shilts, downplays the Milk/Temple relationship, even going so far as to paint Milk as one of the countless people who cruelly ridiculed and ostracized the surviving Temple members and their supporters. Like most historians, Shilts opted for an image of an expedient politician, instead of truthfully portraying how Milk worked with Peoples Temple until the end of his life.
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 04:12:07 PM »
Repeatedly acting upon your desires to sexually stimulate and be sexually stimulated by someone of your own sex does not make you a hero.  It makes you a queer.  Being a queer and a City of San Francisco supervisor does not make you special in any way.  In fact, it should make you ashamed.

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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2008, 05:09:45 PM »
OK, so about a minute before I die, one of ya'll shoot me....I want to be remembered.... we'll call it "Redneck Day".
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2008, 06:13:32 PM »
They already have 2 days celebrating their kind.  Halloween Parade in the East Village in NYC and Fantasy Fest in Key West in October.
Be prepared to be awe'd and horrified. :-)

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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2008, 06:41:53 PM »
They already have 2 days celebrating their kind.  Halloween Parade in the East Village in NYC and Fantasy Fest in Key West in October.
Be prepared to be awe'd and horrified. :-)

I was in Key West for the very first Fantasy Fest.....with a male employee...... :rotf:
We were in a bright red, 4-door, GMC diesel dually, with aluminum runningboards, covered in running lights everywhere  and an Excaliber fibreglas camper on the back. Little gay dude struck up a conversation with the employyee, wanted to know, "What youse guys got in the back of that big red monster truck, a water bed?"... :rotf: I told the employee, "Every queer in town has seen us.......they think we're an item"..... :rotf: Employee started spitting, sputtering and kicking everything in sight... :rotf: :rotf: Took a case of BUD to get that out of his head. :rotf:
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2008, 06:47:23 PM »
They already have 2 days celebrating their kind.  Halloween Parade in the East Village in NYC and Fantasy Fest in Key West in October.
Be prepared to be awe'd and horrified. :-)

I was in Key West for the very first Fantasy Fest.....with a male employee...... :rotf:
We were in a bright red, 4-door, GMC diesel dually, with aluminum runningboards, covered in running lights everywhere  and an Excaliber fibreglas camper on the back. Little gay dude struck up a conversation with the employyee, wanted to know, "What youse guys got in the back of that big red monster truck, a water bed?"... :rotf: I told the employee, "Every queer in town has seen us.......they think we're an item"..... :rotf: Employee started spitting, sputtering and kicking everything in sight... :rotf: :rotf: Took a case of BUD to get that out of his head. :rotf:
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2008, 07:04:50 PM »
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“Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's veto of this bill is a disappointment to thousands and thousands of Californians who regard Harvey Milk as a national hero," said Equality California Executive Director Geoff Kors.

Big news for you, dear, outside the bath houses of San Fransisco, most people in the rest of the country have no idea who Harvey Milk was.  Nor do they care.
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2008, 10:12:47 PM »
They already have 2 days celebrating their kind.  Halloween Parade in the East Village in NYC and Fantasy Fest in Key West in October.
Be prepared to be awe'd and horrified. :-)

You left out April 1.
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2008, 12:35:07 PM »
So what you are saying is that sucking hundreds of ding dongs doesn't rate a person their own day!??!  It isn't like Milk did anything for anyone.  He wasn't a hero.  He was just a fabulous very low politician who never did much of anything but die.


I can't believe they STILL drag out that faggots name.  :thatsright:
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2008, 12:38:40 PM »
So what you are saying is that sucking hundreds of ding dongs doesn't rate a person their own day!??!  It isn't like Milk did anything for anyone.  He wasn't a hero.  He was just a fabulous very low politician who never did much of anything but die.


I can't believe they STILL drag out that ******* name.  :thatsright:

Please do not use that word in reference to anything related to S.F.   :puke:
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Re: ‘Gay Day’ Bill Vetoed in California
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2008, 04:18:03 PM »
So what you are saying is that sucking hundreds of ding dongs doesn't rate a person their own day!??!  It isn't like Milk did anything for anyone.  He wasn't a hero.  He was just a fabulous very low politician who never did much of anything but die.


I can't believe they STILL drag out that ******* name.  :thatsright:

Please do not use that word in reference to anything related to S.F.   :puke:

Awww.....they have such a purty parade.......I'll bet they call it a Milk..ing party..... :evillaugh:
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"Practice random violence and senseless acts of brutality"

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