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Interests => The Science Club => Topic started by: vesta111 on November 25, 2012, 04:18:22 PM

Title: ancient mathitics.
Post by: vesta111 on November 25, 2012, 04:18:22 PM
Don't you just hate it when you follow a link and and are so absorbed that you forget to book market it.
I have spent a good hour watching a link on on Geo mathematics that had me so glued to my seat it did the job of curling my hair.

This was a documentary of a college class on Mathematics applied to the past.  How the builders of ancient monuments that we considered as primitive people people builder the Pyramids and all the to their other sights about the world to all Aline to  the same longitude and latitude all over the world  thousands of years ago.

Premises is was was the ancient people were more advanced then us and used another form of PI in math then we do today.

A consent of 360 degrees was known word wide, a constant, When compaired all their math came up to be be better to when  what we use today.The instructor claims that we need to shit can all our math concepts when studying the past and  to think as the the ancients did to understand just how the Hell all these things were build,  Lots of places in the US with odd mounds that face in direct line with Stone Hedge and Giza.

Ohio has a huge mound, man make in the past as does Florida, called the Panther Mound with the paws facing West.   All along the same latitude as the the Pyramids .All inter connect with the Stone Hedge.  Then South America and the temples they are all built on the same same direction,     Can this be a conincidence over thousands of years ???

So this Professor threw away the notion of modern math and decided to see how Primitives could have built these things without our modern math, -----He took their measurements and wondered  how they could do this
with this without algebra or the idea of PI as most especially the one in Germany was perfectly round with no flaw.------Got to remember these designers lived 5,000  +years before Christ.   
   



   

Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Eupher on November 25, 2012, 04:30:40 PM
Holy mother of God.  :o
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Jasonw560 on November 25, 2012, 04:50:31 PM
Methinks you mean stoneHENGE
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Celtic Rose on November 25, 2012, 05:18:49 PM
Secret to making a perfect circle on the ground.  Place pole on ground.  Attach rope and pull it taut.  Walk around pole holding rope taut.  Voila, perfect circle.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: MrsSmith on November 25, 2012, 06:08:32 PM
I can't believe I read that whole thing.  I'm going to make my husband read it so he can have a headache, too.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Eupher on November 25, 2012, 06:13:34 PM
I can't believe I read that whole thing.  I'm going to make my husband read it so he can have a headache, too.

I think vesta could be a serious case study for someone specializing in anthropology. Where did the genes go wrong with this one?
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Big Dog on November 25, 2012, 06:24:06 PM
Don't you just hate it when you follow a link and and are so absorbed that you forget to book market it.
I have spent a good hour watching a link on on Geo mathematics that had me so glued to my seat it did the job of curling my hair.

This was a documentary of a college class on Mathematics applied to the past.  How the builders of ancient monuments that we considered as primitive people people builder the Pyramids and all the to their other sights about the world to all Aline to  the same longitude and latitude all over the world  thousands of years ago.

Premises is was was the ancient people were more advanced then us and used another form of PI in math then we do today.

A consent of 360 degrees was known word wide, a constant, When compaired all their math came up to be be better to when  what we use today.The instructor claims that we need to shit can all our math concepts when studying the past and  to think as the the ancients did to understand just how the Hell all these things were build,  Lots of places in the US with odd mounds that face in direct line with Stone Hedge and Giza.

Ohio has a huge mound, man make in the past as does Florida, called the Panther Mound with the paws facing West.   All along the same latitude as the the Pyramids .All inter connect with the Stone Hedge.  Then South America and the temples they are all built on the same same direction,     Can this be a conincidence over thousands of years ???

So this Professor threw away the notion of modern math and decided to see how Primitives could have built these things without our modern math, -----He took their measurements and wondered  how they could do this
with this without algebra or the idea of PI as most especially the one in Germany was perfectly round with no flaw.------Got to remember these designers lived 5,000  +years before Christ.   
 

vesta, honey. What you wrote makes no sense.

Have you been hitting the creme de menthe soaked pineapples? Is there a Carbon Monoxide alarm going off in your house?
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: thundley4 on November 25, 2012, 07:21:43 PM
Secret to making a perfect circle on the ground.  Place pole on ground.  Attach rope and pull it taut.  Walk around pole holding rope taut.  Voila, perfect circle.

That is assuming you attached the rope to the pole with a loop.  Tied solidly to the pole, you will make a spiral.  :-)


I think Vest is looking for aliens instead of believing that some simpler mathematics and engineering methods could create the pyramids, Stone Henge and other old crap.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: seahorse513 on November 25, 2012, 07:55:43 PM
 :stoner: :stoner: :stoner:no I think she is secretly growing whacky tobakky!!!
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Chris_ on November 25, 2012, 07:56:49 PM
Radon poisoning.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 25, 2012, 09:15:02 PM
(http://www.tvgasm.com/wp-content/uploads/im-not-saying-it-was-aliens.jpg)
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Celtic Rose on November 25, 2012, 09:26:28 PM
(http://www.tvgasm.com/wp-content/uploads/im-not-saying-it-was-aliens.jpg)

(http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-alien-guy-hair-History-Channel.jpg)

(Totally stolen off of somebody on Facebook)
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: marv on November 26, 2012, 07:21:46 AM
Wheat only grows in temperate zones. Could be just a coincidence? (http://www.conservativecave.com/Smileys/default/whistling.gif)
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 26, 2012, 08:37:48 AM
The angle of slope of the Giza pyramids is the same as the angle of slope produced by trickling Sahara sand into a pile, earlier pyramids built with steeper angles proved very difficult to complete and were prone to collapse.  There were hundreds of years of trial and error before the Egyptians homed in on an engineering solution and figured out how to do it right, they didn't contract the thing out to an A&E firm with surety bonds to nail it on the first try.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Boudicca on November 26, 2012, 09:12:47 AM
Vesta, you might be interested in reading some books by an author named Graham Hancock.

http://www.grahamhancock.com/



There's enough there to keep you happy for a long time, methinks.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: CG6468 on November 26, 2012, 09:42:51 AM
What is (are) mathitics?
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 26, 2012, 09:59:53 AM
What is (are) mathitics?

 When you have numerous blood sucking ticks.....the national debt was caused by DUmmie mathitics.....literally and figuratively.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: marv on November 26, 2012, 01:26:23 PM
There were hundreds of years of trial and error before the Egyptians homed in on an engineering solution and figured out how to do it right,...

Nah! Everybody knows they learned it from the aliens.......(http://www.conservativecave.com/Smileys/default/whistling.gif)
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: vesta111 on November 26, 2012, 01:42:30 PM
Chill out guys, I just reported on a Documentary I watched and was so involved I forgot to book mark the site.

Reason I was so interested as I know little about Math is personal.  I have seen some Cambodians that that use their own way of math when no calculators were at hand.   Kind of upside down in division from our way and there was no time for me to learn it, but they could get the same results as a calculator or faster then division using our way.

Math fascinates me, especially the idea of how people all over the world 5-10 thousands of years ago all used the same concept before the zero was invented.    

I have read that in some civilizations Math was considered the the secret  language of the Gods, Those that were trained in it became very important to the people.  Pythagoras, etc.

Alians, bull crap, this was a human endeavor that took thouands of years to develop and through trade and war brough different concepts of math from around the world together.

My question was how primitives in Ohio were able to calculate the exact degree of their mound to Aline exactly with the Mound in Germany, coincidence ????

Anyone read of the man that by himself in the dead of night built the Coral Castle in Fl.????  
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Crazy Horse on November 26, 2012, 04:32:32 PM
I'm now dumber than I was after reading that.

Vesta dear,.......put the crack pipe down. When you post something and batshit crazyukolous is posted in rebuttal...... you my dear have lost.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: marv on November 27, 2012, 08:39:39 AM
Vesta,

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Math fascinates me, especially the idea of how people all over the world 5-10 thousands of years ago all used the same concept before the zero was invented.

That's misleading. Zero was used only as a place holder (e.g. 10, 100, etc.) as early as 4,000 to 5,000 years ago by the Sumerians. But it was not used as a real number until the fifth century A.D. in India.

Quote
My question was how primitives in Ohio were able to calculate the exact degree of their mound to Aline exactly with the Mound in Germany, coincidence ????

Just a coincidence.

Test your primitive non-calculator skills. Can you determine in thirty seconds if the number

4890767566789657453424859065646348799

is divisible by 3? Is it?
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Skul on November 28, 2012, 07:39:36 PM
The angle of slope of the Giza pyramids is the same as the angle of slope produced by trickling Sahara sand into a pile, earlier pyramids built with steeper angles proved very difficult to complete and were prone to collapse.  There were hundreds of years of trial and error before the Egyptians homed in on an engineering solution and figured out how to do it right, they didn't contract the thing out to an A&E firm with surety bonds to nail it on the first try.
Thus resulting on what is refered to as the "bent" pyramids.  A good example being the Sneferu structure.
Typically, one or more corners would begin to fail, and they shallowed the angle from there.
Quite ingenious.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: marv on November 29, 2012, 09:04:19 AM
Thus resulting on what is refered to as the "bent" pyramids.  A good example being the Sneferu structure.
Typically, one or more corners would begin to fail, and they shallowed the angle from there.
Quite ingenious.

The end product is something called experience. Failing to learn from experience produces failure.

The ancient Egyptians knew that if you keep on doing the same thing, you'll keep on getting the same results. That's something today's Progs haven't learned from the history of Socialism. The ancient Egyptians were smarter than today's Progs.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Big Dog on November 29, 2012, 06:24:08 PM
Vesta,

That's misleading. Zero was used only as a place holder (e.g. 10, 100, etc.) as early as 4,000 to 5,000 years ago by the Sumerians. But it was not used as a real number until the fifth century A.D. in India.

Just a coincidence.

Test your primitive non-calculator skills. Can you determine in thirty seconds if the number

4890767566789657453424859065646348799

is divisible by 3? Is it?

Ummmm.... no.

Wait a minute. Can I change my answer?

OK, yes.

 :panic:

The dog ate my homework. Really!

 :panic: :panic:

Dammit, nobody told me there was gonna be a quiz!   

:panic: :panic: :panic:
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: marv on November 29, 2012, 06:57:05 PM
Test your primitive non-calculator skills. Can you determine in thirty seconds if the number

4890767566789657453424859065646348799

is divisible by 3? Is it?
Ummmm.... no.

Wait a minute. Can I change my answer?

OK, yes.

 :panic:

The dog ate my homework. Really!

 :panic: :panic:

Dammit, nobody told me there was gonna be a quiz!   

:panic: :panic: :panic:

Hey Dog, is that a firm maybe? (http://members.socket.net/~mcruzan/avatars/gator.gif)
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Big Dog on November 29, 2012, 07:19:51 PM
Hey Dog, is that a firm maybe? (http://members.socket.net/~mcruzan/avatars/gator.gif)

That is a firm "I don't know, and I refuse to cheat by using a calculator."

Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Dori on November 29, 2012, 08:02:23 PM


Test your primitive non-calculator skills. Can you determine in thirty seconds if the number

4890767566789657453424859065646348799

is divisible by 3? Is it?

No
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Chris_ on November 29, 2012, 08:38:21 PM
Yes.

I use the same method for figuring oil changes on my car(s). :p
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: marv on November 29, 2012, 09:00:35 PM
Okay, class over.

The simple, primitive and easy way is.......

1. Strike through all zeros.

2. Strike through all threes, sixes and nines.

3. Strike through all remaining sets of digits that add up to numbers that are divisible by three; e.g. 8+4, 5+5+5, 7+7+1, 2+1, etc.

If whatever remains is not zero, the answer to whether the number is divisible by three is NO. If no digits remain, the answer is YES.

Try it.........
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Chris_ on November 29, 2012, 09:38:00 PM
Regardless of what's in front of it, if the last digit (or pair of digits) is a factor of 3, it's generally divisible by 3.

Easy peasy.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: Wineslob on November 30, 2012, 02:51:18 PM
I can't believe I read that whole thing.  I'm going to make my husband read it so he can have a headache, too.


 :rofl:




Vesta, you OK? Didn't have a stroke, did you?
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 30, 2012, 03:23:01 PM
Vesta, you OK? Didn't have a stroke, did you?

But really, how would we know?

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: vesta111 on November 30, 2012, 06:57:54 PM
But really, how would we know?

 :popcorn:

Easy Mr. DumbAss, when I begin to speak of Obama  in a kindly view point, then I have had a Minnie stroke. A minor stroke is when I begin to speak of old Joe Biden as a statesman.  A middling stroke I will begin to extold all Barney Frank has done for us.

A major stroke is when I am carted off muttering about some Nebraska Coach that sleeps naked, and owns cats.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: franksolich on December 01, 2012, 04:54:38 AM
Whoa.

I just got around to reading this thread.

It's, uh, not quite what I'd expected; I hadn't checked to see who the original poster was.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: MrsSmith on December 01, 2012, 05:59:36 AM
Easy Mr. DumbAss, when I begin to speak of Obama  in a kindly view point, then I have had a Minnie stroke. A minor stroke is when I begin to speak of old Joe Biden as a statesman.  A middling stroke I will begin to extold all Barney Frank has done for us.

A major stroke is when I am carted off muttering about some Nebraska Coach that sleeps naked, and owns cats.


OK, now that was funny.   :rofl:
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 01, 2012, 07:06:29 AM
Well now, I thought a Minnie stroke would be when you started wearing a bow on top of your head and your ears got really, really big...
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: vesta111 on December 01, 2012, 09:36:18 AM
Well now, I thought a Minnie stroke would be when you started wearing a bow on top of your head and your ears got really, really big...

Heard about her, the scourage of the water front.  She was known to slip sailors a Mickey and rob them blind.
Title: Re: ancient mathitics.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 01, 2012, 05:35:04 PM
Heard about her, the scourage of the water front.  She was known to slip sailors a Mickey and rob them blind.

H5, vesta!

 :lmao: