The Conservative Cave
Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Karin on August 19, 2018, 08:17:04 PM
-
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211020879 (https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211020879)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 05:53 PM
pnwmom (92,185 posts)
Is "Save the Internet" (net neutrality) an issue that could get more young people to vote?
Should we be pushing that issue more everywhere?
And how can we rebrand it for those who depend on the internet but don't know what net neutrality means?
And now they show what liars they are:
Response to pnwmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:12 PM
OilemFirchen (5,095 posts)
4. No.
Way too complicated to figure out what's in it for them.
Only way to attract them is to call it "Free Internet", then deal with the caterwauling later.
Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #4)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:22 PM
pnwmom (92,185 posts)
6. You're really saying yes. I asked about rebranding -- and calling it Free Internet
is a good suggestion.
If we campaigned on the idea that the GOP is committed to taking away Free Internet, would more young people get out and vote?
Response to pnwmom (Reply #6)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:24 PM
OilemFirchen (5,095 posts)
7. It would work.
But it really is disingenuous, don't you think?
Liars, all the time.
Thread killer: :lmao:
Response to pnwmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:42 PM
Lee-Lee (6,077 posts)
11. Well there is risk involved- because it all depends on how it's impacted them
I’m already seeing right wing sources share memes about how since net neutrality went away internet speed in the US had increased and none of the predictions of people having to pay extra for each service like data or texting or streaming have come true- so they are saying everyone who opposed it was crying wolf.
If we make an issue of this and they say “look, net neutrality went away 2 years ago, today your internet is faster and cheaper than ever and none of the bad things these folks are saying happened” what will be your counter argument to keep that a winning issue?
If your typical millennial hasn’t noticed his or her internet access do anything but get cheaper and/or faster how will this be an issue that wins?
And sadly I do think the left holds some blame for that, because it was sold to people that all these bad things would happen as soon as net neutrality went away, with people sharing pictures of how you would have to pay separate fees to have email and streaming and texting and voice and others saying that they would cut off your Netflix or Hulu if you didn’t pay extra. And since none of that has happened it’s a hit to our credibility on the issue.
That’s the risk of overstated dangers when debating an issue. If you lose and none of what you predicted comes to pass it’s hard to get your credibility back.
Wait, I thought MILLIONS died due to this net neutrality stuff.
Thread was crickets after that.
-
>calling it Free Internet
Right, because all the fiber, copper, routers, switches and support is done for free by volunteers.
How about a box of deep fried love...millennial Nuts and Vagin seasoning? Free, right?
-
That’s the risk of overstated dangers when debating an issue. If you lose and none of what you predicted comes to pass it’s hard to get your credibility back.
Maybe they'll wise up and stop lying about global warming all the time.
I kid.
-
Response to pnwmom (Original post)
Sun Aug 19, 2018, 06:12 PM
OilemFirchen (5,095 posts)
4. No.
Way too complicated to figure out what's in it for them.
Only way to attract them is to call it "Free Internet", then deal with the caterwauling later.
This dummie will go far in the DNC messaging department.
-
That’s the risk of overstated dangers when debating an issue. If you lose and none of what you predicted comes to pass it’s hard to get your credibility back.
Outside of the media, this is working on Second Amendment issues.
Unfortunately the horizon is still a bit dark as many 2A fans still think it's OK to have to ask the State for a permission slip to Bear, and automatic restoration to rights of those who have served their full sentences and been made "free" will probably not occur in the 21st century.
-
Bucket of Acid Challenge.
-
Just for the record: In a nutshell, Net Neutrality is about the government taking complete control over the Internet, and in some cases, passing on the control to foreign sources. To that end, they have the power to take out websites, enact tariffs, and ultimately restrict bandwidth to "bad actors"... just like Facebook, Twitter, and Google/Youtube is doing right now! It NEVER was about "letting everyone have free, unfettered access." For one thing, Conservative Cave would be taken out in the first or second wave, along with Free Republic, Daily Wire / Caller, etc. This is not even debatable, this is actually in the plans. At that point, the word "Neutrality" will now show its true form... a "Net NEUTRALIZER"... bad!
-
Just for the record: In a nutshell, Net Neutrality is about the government taking complete control over the Internet, and in some cases, passing on the control to foreign sources. To that end, they have the power to take out websites, enact tariffs, and ultimately restrict bandwidth to "bad actors"... just like Facebook, Twitter, and Google/Youtube is doing right now! It NEVER was about "letting everyone have free, unfettered access." For one thing, Conservative Cave would be taken out in the first or second wave, along with Free Republic, Daily Wire / Caller, etc. This is not even debatable, this is actually in the plans. At that point, the word "Neutrality" will now show its true form... a "Net NEUTRALIZER"... bad!
Net Neutrality was not neutral? Next thing you will tell me is that the Affordable Care Act is not affordable.
-
Net Neutrality was not neutral? Next thing you will tell me is that the Affordable Care Act is not affordable.
And that the Democratic Party is not about Democracy!