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Offline thundley4

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What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« on: September 29, 2011, 01:18:18 PM »
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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts)             Thu Sep-29-11 01:36 PM
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What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
   
The solution to our problems is very, very rarely to go back to the problems we used to have before those were solved. Usually, the best course is to look forward, not backward. That attitude does not satisfy the conservative instinct to grasp at easy answers. But it's more effective.
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SheilaT   (1000+ posts)           Thu Sep-29-11 01:47 PM
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1. They also have no clear understanding
   
of exactly what government is for, what is accomplished through taxation and spending.

Wrong. DUmmies have no clue what the Constitution requires that the government spend money on.

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gateley   (1000+ posts)           Thu Sep-29-11 02:05 PM
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3. I get that sense from the new kids in the House -- it's a game,
   
who's going to win, who will be Big Man On Top? They don't have an interest in what their posturing will do to their constituents, nor do they understand the real role of government.

To be fair, I've seen a couple of Tea Baggers who, although I of course disagree with them, seem sincere and truly believe their approach is best (they've been brainwashed, too). But just one or two -- the others are playing the game and stroking their egos.

We don't think it is a game, it's deadly serious and it is about the survival of this country.
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Re: What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2011, 01:36:46 PM »
It's always amusing, in a very funny way, when the primitives try to explain us.
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Re: What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2011, 01:40:40 PM »
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They don't have an interest in what their posturing will do to their constituents, nor do they understand the real role of government.

In a democracy, or representative republic such as we have, the "real role of government" is whatever the hell the majority of constituents of said government want it to be.

If conservatives get enough people to come around to our way of thinking regarding limited government, and that's what gets voted in, then that becomes goverment's role.

Same way with your side. If enough people think government-as-nanny is the way to go, then that's what we get. Of course, you love a rigged game, where the judiciary steps in and creates their own law by fiat, but be that as it may.

The American people as a whole get to decide. You and your little cadre of wannabe totalitarians don't get to dictate what everyone's "self-interest" is.

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Re: What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2011, 01:43:11 PM »
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SheilaT   (1000+ posts)           Thu Sep-29-11 01:47 PM
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1. They also have no clear understanding
   
of exactly what government is for, what is accomplished through taxation and spending.

This is exactly what government has accomplished through taxation and spending...
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Re: What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2011, 01:46:11 PM »
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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts)             Thu Sep-29-11 01:36 PM
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What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
   
The solution to our problems is very, very rarely to go back to the problems we used to have before those were solved. Usually, the best course is to look forward, not backward. That attitude does not satisfy the conservative instinct to grasp at easy answers. But it's more effective.
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WTF is this idiot trying to say?


Don't learn from the past. Seems that's exactly what we have going on now.   


Yeesh, these people have an incredible ability to be incredibly dense.
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Re: What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2011, 01:50:47 PM »
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SheilaT   (1000+ posts)           Thu Sep-29-11 01:47 PM
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1. They also have no clear understanding
  
of exactly what government is for, what is accomplished through taxation and spending.

At what level, moron? I could school your ass up and down on what the federal government's responsibility is, not what you "think" it is. Its quite easy as their responsibilities are DELINEATED in the US Constitution. Regulation of Interstate Commerce and providing a common defense of the nation. That's IT. All this other bullshit is out of the realm of their responsibility and the only reason we have most of this shit is political posturing, stacking courts as FDR did, and executive orders, essentially stepping over Congress. Ever since that hideous "progressive" 17th Amendment was passed, this nation has been on a downward spiral.
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Re: What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2011, 02:04:25 PM »
Those that do not learn form the past are doomed to vote democrat.
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Re: What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2011, 02:07:40 PM »
What the tea party does get is ...MAD... when they see you DUmmies spending foodstamps bought with their hard earned money at the grocery store. When you're in there buying stuff they can't afford, eating high on the hog, buying beer/wine with cash from your welfare/disability check, living in free housing, getting free healthcare and all the assorted freebies for your bastard children that they can't get for their kids because you won't get off your lazy ass back.

 
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Re: What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2011, 02:12:22 PM »
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The solution to our problems is very, very rarely to go back to the problems we used to have before those were solved. Usually, the best course is to look forward, not backward. That attitude does not satisfy the conservative instinct to grasp at easy answers. But it's more effective.

Logic escapes the DUmbass yet again.  The thinly veiled strawman here is that we want to repeal ALL legislation since the early 1800's.  That's a strawman fallacy, a lie, and a smear.  No Tea Party group advocates rolling back women's right to vote, or going back to having blacks not be able to eat with whites, moron.

If anyone is truly regressive, it's today's liberal.  They want to (as admitted recently) roll back freedom, suspend elections, and punish individual successes at the King's tax rate.  They want every single dollar that exists to flow through Washington DC, as it might have flowed through some feudal king's coffers 500-800 years ago.
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Re: What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2011, 02:13:42 PM »


"forward, not backward"
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Re: What teabaggers -- at a very basic level -- just don't get
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2011, 02:14:09 PM »
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1. They also have no clear understanding of exactly what government is for, what is accomplished through taxation and spending.

Actually, we do.  It's the economic concepts of public and private goods, which many liberals have NEVER learned about.  Under this theory, there's a very limited  role for federal government.
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