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DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« on: July 28, 2013, 03:54:22 PM »
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Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:19 PM

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Security checkpoint at the movie theater


 My partner and I left the house this afternoon to see Wolverine, but we had one qualm about this plan; the last time we'd been to the movies at this particular theater complex, we'd had our purses searched. This change in process caught us by surprise, with tickets in hand, so we went through that security check as requested, but this time around we weren't so eager to repeat that exercise.
 
On the face of it -- as blandly iterated by the theater manager -- this policy is about checking bags for weapons to ensure a safer experience for customers. In truth, it's nonsense. Men are the most likely people to carry guns and shoot-up an establishment and they're far more likely to stick a gun in a pocket of their cargo pants than in a man-purse. The most violent movie incident in Aurora, Colorado involved a man with assault rifles entering through an exit door. Checking women's purses is not an effective policy; it's just a token (and somewhat discriminatory) gesture to create an illusion of safety while furthering a very real erosion of personal privacy.
 
Beyond that inane illusion of saftey, however, is yet another creeping normalization of "Your papers, please" authoritarian control of our daily lives. Our gun culture resists any kind of regulation of our freedom to own weapons, but then meekly bows down to the checkpoints against gun violence that permeate our participation in community activities.
 
This is ultimately what my partner and I were objecting to: the normalization of authoritarian control that numbs everyone to a process that can slide into crowd-control with less sterling motivations than protecting us from the violence of unbalanced individuals.
 
The larger context was emphasized this morning, before we even left for the theater, as we listened to Diane Feinstein discuss Snowden on a news program. Without even blinking at the screaming irony of her own statements, Feinstein spoke somberly about our reassurances to Russia that we would not torture or kill Snowden, and that she felt as a former KGB agent, Putin would most assuredly understand the United States' concern over Snowden's actions.
 
When we've reached the point where we count on the shared understanding of the KGB to act in our national interest, we have blatantly and openly admitted that we are a fascist state.
 
Welcome to the American Homeland.

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Sun Jul 28, 2013, 02:26 PM

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3. 10 years ago, after 911, I knew it was security theater



When a week into the mess I called the cops for an abandoned package at the retaining wall of a mall.
 
The mall security were apoplectic.

10 years ago hardening movie theaters by having armed security and equal security checks would have made some sense from a security stand point. Local county fair had metal detectors that were not connected, so you could bring anything, and knives are not allowed, but are sold inside.
 
This is why I call all this pure security theater, and normalization.

Another step they should have taken, never did...get rid of all the big blue mail boxes that can receive a largish package. (Every so often pipe bombs go in there)
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2013, 04:26:38 PM »
My, how the cousin seems to know everything before anybody else does.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2013, 04:28:18 PM »
As usual, she lies, once again, just to make herself look important.
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3. 10 years ago, after 911, I knew it was security theater
No you didn't, liar.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2013, 05:37:29 PM »
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we have blatantly and openly admitted that we are a fascist state.
 
Welcome to the American Homeland.

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If not for Conservative opposition to your retarded worldview, it would be much, much worse.  You jackasses want more and more government to do everything for you for free, then whine like befuddled children when the leviathan begins to bother you.   :bigbird:

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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2013, 05:41:46 PM »
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In truth, it's nonsense. Men are the most likely people to carry guns and shoot-up an establishment and they're far more likely to stick a gun in a pocket of their cargo pants than in a man-purse.
Smacks of profiling based on the sex of the person. The DUmmies should know better than to do it.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2013, 05:52:49 PM »
Welcome to gun-free zones.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2013, 06:18:36 PM »
Quote from: Tess Anderson on July 28, 2013, 03:54:22 PM

The subject line was good -  "...nads weighs in..."
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2013, 08:09:01 PM »
"Another step they should have taken, never did...get rid of all the big blue mail boxes that can receive a largish package. (Every so often pipe bombs go in there)"

What a liar.

No, they don't.

Here is a quote straight from the Postal Inspector's site.

Quote from: https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/raddocs/bombs.htm

It is important to be alert for suspicious parcels, but keep in mind that a mail bomb is an extremely rare occurrence. To illustrate just how rare, Postal Inspectors have investigated an average of 16 mail bombs over the last few years. By contrast, each year, the Postal Service processed over 170 billion pieces of mail. That means during the last few years, the chances that a piece of mail actually contains a bomb average far less than one in 10 billion!


I've been working for the USPS for quite some time now, and I have never heard anything about any mail bomb found in a collection can. The closest it comes involves a grunge band musician & pot activist who put pipe bombs in people's private mailboxes circa 2002. He was strategically placing the bombs so that a map marking the explosions would form a smiley face. The bombs weren't going into collection cans.

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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2013, 09:24:28 PM »
So libs don't like when their liberties are curtailed ? Hmmm who would have predicted that ? What's good for thee is not for me.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2013, 07:15:47 AM »
They can search my purse all they want. I don't carry my gun there.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2013, 07:31:57 AM »
People like this make my job interesting...

My response is always the same: You have the right to privacy and not be searched and I have the right to throw you out. Gotta love private property.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2013, 08:02:43 AM »
Quote from: AprilRazz on July 29, 2013, 07:15:47 AM
They can search my purse all they want. I don't carry my gun there.

I never could understand why women CCW in a purse. If the woman are anything like I am, it would take me 10 minutes of grubbing around in the purse just to find it.

The Liberal that complained about women being searched for weapons has to be from a very different era then myself.    Way back in my day the male gang members had their girlfriends hold their knives and guns for them, females were seldom searched as there were few if any police woman to do so.

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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2013, 11:59:30 AM »
Quote from: vesta111 on July 29, 2013, 08:02:43 AM
I never could understand why women CCW in a purse. If the woman are anything like I am, it would take me 10 minutes of grubbing around in the purse just to find it.

The Liberal that complained about women being searched for weapons has to be from a very different era then myself.    Way back in my day the male gang members had their girlfriends hold their knives and guns for them, females were seldom searched as there were few if any police woman to do so.


I have a special retainer sewn into a couple of my purses for my holster when I am wearing something that can't conceal my gun. But I prefer to have it on my person when I can but with the way that women's fashion goes it is hard to dress to conceal all the time. Besides it's kind of funny that I am one of the few women out there with a Coach bag custom modified for a 9mm.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2013, 12:46:14 PM »
Quote from: AprilRazz on July 29, 2013, 11:59:30 AM
I have a special retainer sewn into a couple of my purses for my holster when I am wearing something that can't conceal my gun. But I prefer to have it on my person when I can but with the way that women's fashion goes it is hard to dress to conceal all the time. Besides it's kind of funny that I am one of the few women out there with a Coach bag custom modified for a 9mm.
That would make it a Coach Gun.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2013, 02:51:07 PM »
Quote from: AprilRazz on July 29, 2013, 11:59:30 AM
I have a special retainer sewn into a couple of my purses for my holster when I am wearing something that can't conceal my gun. But I prefer to have it on my person when I can but with the way that women's fashion goes it is hard to dress to conceal all the time. Besides it's kind of funny that I am one of the few women out there with a Coach bag custom modified for a 9mm.
Just you and Pam Dawson!
Of course Pam's purse is a knockoff.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2013, 11:55:44 PM »
I to am reluctant to go to the movies and have not for six or seven years as I disagree with the Hollywood illiteratti and will give them none of my money. Make all those theaters open carry and not be worried one bit about a shooting there.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2013, 01:43:36 AM »
Quote from: jukin on July 29, 2013, 11:55:44 PM
I to am reluctant to go to the movies and have not for six or seven years as I disagree with the Hollywood illiteratti and will give them none of my money. Make all those theaters open carry and not be worried one bit about a shooting there.
With good gun control every patron would put at least one hole in the attempted perpetrator.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2013, 02:51:30 AM »
Quote from: miskie on July 28, 2013, 08:09:01 PM
"Another step they should have taken, never did...get rid of all the big blue mail boxes that can receive a largish package. (Every so often pipe bombs go in there)"

What a liar.

No, they don't.

Here is a quote straight from the Postal Inspector's site.

I've been working for the USPS for quite some time now, and I have never heard anything about any mail bomb found in a collection can. The closest it comes involves a grunge band musician & pot activist who put pipe bombs in people's private mailboxes circa 2002. He was strategically placing the bombs so that a map marking the explosions would form a smiley face. The bombs weren't going into collection cans.



http://www.foxnews.com/story/2002/05/09/mailbox-bomber-was-making-smiley-face/

I remember that.  One of the bombs was placed in an Eldridge, IA mailbox which was just about 20 miles from where I lived.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2013, 04:22:38 AM »
Quote from: jukin on July 29, 2013, 11:55:44 PM
I to am reluctant to go to the movies and have not for six or seven years as I disagree with the Hollywood illiteratti and will give them none of my money. Make all those theaters open carry and not be worried one bit about a shooting there.

My wife and I have gone to the movies exactly two times in the last ten years--the first time was for The Passion of the Christ, and the second was at the end of this past January, to see Les Miserables.  That's it.  I'm with you on the Hollyweird illiteratti.
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2013, 05:42:26 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on July 29, 2013, 02:51:07 PM
Just you and Pam Dawson!
Of course Pam's purse is a knockoff.
I have a Coach, she has a cooch. :-)

Just wondering something. Did pammy finally off herself? Haven't seen her lately.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2013, 05:45:48 AM by AprilRazz »
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Re: DUmmie "Boomer" reluctant to go to the movies, nads weighs in
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2013, 06:52:13 AM »
Quote from: AprilRazz on July 30, 2013, 05:42:26 AM
I have a Coach, she has a cooch. :-)

Just wondering something. Did pammy finally off herself? Haven't seen her lately.

Glock in her cooch?
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