Really Nancy???

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Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:39 AM

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"Struggling to make ends meet" on $174K a year?? Really Nancy??? [View all]
Nancy Pelosi begs us not to ruin her dignity by cutting her paycheck

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi is speaking out against a cut in congressional pay because she says it will undermine the dignity of their positions. "I think we should respect the work we do," Pelosi said. "I think it's necessary for us to have the dignity of the job that we have rewarded." ("Dignity" is apparently a synonym for "fat paycheck.") Pelosi, whose husband, Paul, is a legit real-estate mogul, was quick to add that slicing her own paycheck wouldn’t "mean as much" as those senators who struggle to make ends meet on $174,000 per year. "We are obviously contemplating a sequester," Maryland Rep. Steny Hoyer (D) said. "Obviously we are going to take a cut, like everybody else."



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http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2392954

Very large bonfire of quite conflicted primitives.

 
   

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181. Do you give regular TV interviews and meet with foreign dignitaries?

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Are you still paying back loans on a law degree from an Ivy League university?
Do you fly across the country several times a month?

The real point is that a CEO of a pretty middling company can make ten times as much as a congressperson. Why are we pissing about complaining about Nancy Pelosi's $174K when it's the multi-million dollar salaries on Wall Street and in insurance and pharmaceutical and defence firms that are sucking this country dry.

If she was really good at coaching baseball nobody would blink an eye at her earning $17 million a year, so how about a little perspective?

The difference is of course that she is being paid with public funds, but please do go on.   She does real live television interviews?  Oh goodness -- GIVE HER A RAISE!!

[Freeper]

If anyone needs a pay cut it is the clowns who run our government.

Because of them our paychecks are smaller and what we have left is stretched more and more due to the non inflation, inflation that is going on.

[ColonelCarrots]

Poor baby... I'm playing the world's smallest violin right now.

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19. It really isn't much considering the job

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And the way they have to live. Two households, travel, clothing, etc.

They probably take home around $7,000-8,000 a month after federal tax, social security, Medicare, state income taxes, TSP, mandatory retirement contribution, healthcare premium, dental, life insurance premium, etc, etc.

I'm a federal employee, I make $48,000 a year and take home about $2400 a month after all the deductions and that's in Florida, no state income tax.

Poor dearest dears.  They put up with so much to serve us.   Those bastards want to cut their pay.   

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Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:36 PM

Egalitarian Thug (5,963 posts)
183. I'm beyond amazed that Americans just don't seem to care at all about the blatant

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graft that has come to be, not just common, but SOP in DC. The entire legislature is made up of rich people who come to make themselves richer or middle class people who come to make themselves rich and all at taxpayer expense. And nobody's doing anything for the people who send them and pay the bills.

Dirty freeper troll!!  Do you have an Ivy League education to pay off at .... how old is Pelosi again?

[thundley4]

Congressional pay should be means tested.  Any income from investments or other sources should be deducted from their pay.  That way it protects the ones who are not independently wealthy and went there to do a job.


Something like that anyway. 

[JohnnyReb]

The woman is worried about dignity??????......hell, she should be embarrassed all to hell, holding such a high office and she can't even read.

[Maxiest]

My position that most of you won't agree with but we say that we want people from all walks of life and back grounds to be interested in service in Congress and the government.

But Congress truly pays too little for that to really happen. So instead, we get a significantly wealthier and less "normal" distribution of people in Congress because they have to be people that are financially well off enough to not "care" about the money.

I am not saying that I love Congress and think they are always great. But if you compare the level of responsibility and work to anything in the private sector they are truly underpaid.

Since they are underpaid monetarily, we end with a group of legislators that receive the majority of their pay in two ways:

1) Future wages: they garner support from outside groups with plans to one day become lobbyists and the like

2) Power: Many legislators love/enjoy the POWER and Attention their office brings them. Underpaying monetarily means that the people who are attracted to "service" get a significant amount of their compensation from feeding their desire for power.

Both of these "pay" options result in bad outcomes for the American people.

[Tucker]

The woman is worried about dignity??????......hell, she should be embarrassed all to hell, holding such a high office and she can't even read.

The way she looks, she should be ashamed to be seen in public.

[Undies]

My position that most of you won't agree with but we say that we want people from all walks of life and back grounds to be interested in service in Congress and the government.

Good Lord Almighty! I've never said such a ridiculous thing.  That's how we end up with socialists clowns like Nancy Pelosi and Shelia Lee.

[USA4ME]

What I'm reading there is "Don't pick on Democrats, pick on Republicans."  Had Boehner said what she did the ridicule from the primitives would have received 100% participation.

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[Ptarmigan]

Nancy Pelosi is a millionaire. No? I seem to recall that she is one of the richest Congress member.

[Tucker]

Good Lord Almighty! I've never said such a ridiculous thing.  That's how we end up with socialists clowns like Nancy Pelosi and Shelia Lee.

Nothings stopping Shelia Jackson Lee from running far a political office. I mean, after all, she's a freed slave and can forge her own path.

[Freeper]

My position that most of you won't agree with but we say that we want people from all walks of life and back grounds to be interested in service in Congress and the government.

But Congress truly pays too little for that to really happen. So instead, we get a significantly wealthier and less "normal" distribution of people in Congress because they have to be people that are financially well off enough to not "care" about the money.

I am not saying that I love Congress and think they are always great. But if you compare the level of responsibility and work to anything in the private sector they are truly underpaid.

Since they are underpaid monetarily, we end with a group of legislators that receive the majority of their pay in two ways:

1) Future wages: they garner support from outside groups with plans to one day become lobbyists and the like

2) Power: Many legislators love/enjoy the POWER and Attention their office brings them. Underpaying monetarily means that the people who are attracted to "service" get a significant amount of their compensation from feeding their desire for power.

Both of these "pay" options result in bad outcomes for the American people.

I think they should get minimum wage or even better a monthly salary that matches the salaries of the enlisted men and women. They start off at E-1 pay and can work their way up with each term up to E-9. To solve the having two house issue we set up barracks in DC and they stay in bunks, they get a chow hall and buses to run them back and forth. They get vouchers to fly in coach seating to go home and to come to DC for each session. I would also limit sessions to one a year and everything else they want to do they can use SKYPE.

[docstew]

I think they should get minimum wage or even better a monthly salary that matches the salaries of the enlisted men and women. They start off at E-1 pay and can work their way up with each term up to E-9. To solve the having two house issue we set up barracks in DC and they stay in bunks, they get a chow hall and buses to run them back and forth. They get vouchers to fly in coach seating to go home and to come to DC for each session. I would also limit sessions to one a year and everything else they want to do they can use SKYPE.

I've said something along those lines before. I think in my plan the pay was tied to O-3 pay. Since Congress sets the pay charts, there would also have to be some mechanism to prevent them from bumping that payscale up.

[Maxiest]

Good Lord Almighty! I've never said such a ridiculous thing.  That's how we end up with socialists clowns like Nancy Pelosi and Shelia Lee.

Really?  We are going to end up with them regardless... 

[98ZJUSMC]

I think they should get minimum wage or even better a monthly salary that matches the salaries of the enlisted men and women. They start off at E-1 pay and can work their way up with each term up to E-9. To solve the having two house issue we set up barracks in DC and they stay in bunks, they get a chow hall and buses to run them back and forth. They get vouchers to fly in coach seating to go home and to come to DC for each session. I would also limit sessions to one a year and everything else they want to do they can use SKYPE.

Just as long as I get to run the fat little useless b*stards through PT every morning.

[DefiantSix]

Congressional pay should be means tested.  Any income from investments or other sources should be deducted from their pay.  That way it protects the ones who are not independently wealthy and went there to do a job.


Something like that anyway. 

Even simpler: Congress-shits hereafter (in the universe where I was emperor for a day) would be paid whatever was leftover from that year's tax revenues AFTER all necessary expenditures are covered. If the yearly tax revenues leave $535 million over and above necessary expenditures, then each worthless Congress-shit would take home $1 million. If, after the country's business had been attended to, there was only $535 left in the coffers, well, then sorry; you get to take a dollar home as your pay for being a Congress-shit this year (better luck next year). If, however, the Congress-shits pull their usual number, and run a deficit, then they get the joy of either (a) going back over the budget, and finding which "necessary expenditures" aren't quite as necessary as they first thought; or (b) the whole damnable lot of them are personally on the hook for the deficit amount, payable in full before any of them leave the capitol for any reason.

[Jasonw560]

They should do what Texas does.

Ours meets every 2 years, makes an average of (I think) 20K for their time in session.

They pay for hotels on their own dime, and many of them fly/drive home on the weekends.

With all the technology, why can't they have committee meetings and such via SKYPE, as Freeper suggested, or conference calls?

Their main offices should be right smack dab in the middle of the district they represent if they're Reps, and in the poorest shithole in the state if they are Senators.

Want protection? Pay for it yourself. Limo? Your own money. Fancy hotel room in New York? Your dime.

[IassaFTots]

The way she looks, she should be ashamed to be seen in public.

Not coffee, but grits.  GRITS!  All over my keyboard.  Damn you Tucker!   

 

[Undies]

Nothings stopping Shelia Jackson Lee from running far a political office. I mean, after all, she's a freed slave and can forge her own path.

When "diversity" is the goal, logic, common sense, reality, and even America herself is thrown out the proverbial window.

[diesel driver]

Even simpler: Congress-shits hereafter (in the universe where I was emperor for a day) would be paid whatever was leftover from that year's tax revenues AFTER all necessary expenditures are covered. If the yearly tax revenues leave $535 million over and above necessary expenditures, then each worthless Congress-shit would take home $1 million. If, after the country's business had been attended to, there was only $535 left in the coffers, well, then sorry; you get to take a dollar home as your pay for being a Congress-shit this year (better luck next year). If, however, the Congress-shits pull their usual number, and run a deficit, then they get the joy of either (a) going back over the budget, and finding which "necessary expenditures" aren't quite as necessary as they first thought; or (b) the whole damnable lot of them are personally on the hook for the deficit amount, payable in full before any of them leave the capitol for any reason.

The only problem I see with this is the congress-shits raising taxes every year so they get a paycheck + a nice "bonus".

Of course, they will be "exempt" from any said tax hikes, just like now.

I think they should be paid from their STATE treasuries whatever stipend the state legislature deem "appropriate" for their service.

[DefiantSix]

The only problem I see with this is the congress-shits raising taxes every year so they get a paycheck + a nice "bonus".

Of course, they will be "exempt" from any said tax hikes, just like now.

I think they should be paid from their STATE treasuries whatever stipend the state legislature deem "appropriate" for their service.

Oooh, I like that... 

[vesta111]

The only problem I see with this is the congress-shits raising taxes every year so they get a paycheck + a nice "bonus".

Of course, they will be "exempt" from any said tax hikes, just like now.

I think they should be paid from their STATE treasuries whatever stipend the state legislature deem "appropriate" for their service.

^5 to you, this is the best idea I have seen in years.     Citizens will be more likely to become choosy about their Representatives if they know their taxes could go up if they choose wrong and down if they choose a person that deserves a raise.