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Offline dutch508

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The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« on: October 23, 2014, 10:29:02 AM »
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Pushing Dean Out And Ending 50 State Strategy Was A BIG Mistake For Democrats.
It is too bad that Obama took Rahm's advice and pushed Dean out. It was the end of the 50 state strategy pushed by Dr. Howard Dean. And it was I think Obama won. By forcing the PUKES to at least defend in every state it weakened them. What probably cost the Dems in 2010 was not having a 50 state strategy. By conceding certain ground the PUKES were able to use the money from "safe" areas and put it in other places to counter the Dems.

The other problem was allowing the GOP to misrepresent the "fictional" cuts in Medicare. By allowing them that narrative seniors freaked. Obama and the Dems were not particularly strong with seniors anyway. A lot of seniors are so racist they would not take water from a minority if at the risk of their life.

The 50 state strategy was really a brilliant idea. And you will never make inroads into red areas as long as you concede them without any kind of resistance or competition. From my point of view waiting for demographics is problematic. By the time demographics matters the GOP can solidify a lot of its positions. They can screw up the vote enough to delay things considerably.


Yeah... the election on the 4th will be glorious!

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1. bad for the rank and file. great for the dc dems

Sucking up to the Koch brothers is much more lucrative than battling for poor, immigrants, teachers and so forth.

Rec


MIHOP!!!!

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32. This is a very important point. While the rank and file still stand for Democratic Values the "DC Dems" don't. They have sold out. Obama used Dean and the Left to win the presidency, then threw them aside. Why so brutally you ask? Because he wanted the Center-Right to see him trash the Left. He represents the Center-Right and his appointments prove it. I saw it at Rick Warren. Obama couldn't wait until after his inauguration, he wanted to slap the Left in the face as soon as possible. Then came Rahmbo, and the rest is history. The DC DEms are Center-Right Conservatives.
 

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63. Rahm = genuine POS.

They are gearing up for the slaughter on 4 November...

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davidn3600 (3,352 posts)
2. Yeah but how liberal were those Democrats in red states?

Most of them were blue dogs.

Look how hard it was to get ACA passed. Democrats were not able to get much done as a party because of them. You can't get blue progressives elected in conservative red populations and hold the seats for more than 1 election.


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18. I seem to recall A HUGE Democratic Sweep in 2006 And again in 2008, but then what did they do with their HUGE Majorities?


I wonder what happened?

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16. No Way We Can Do a 50-State Strategy post-Citizens United

The Rapeuglicans now have access to vastly more money than we do and they always will.
The Supreme Court has made sure of that.
If we try to spread our limited resources over all 50 states under these conditions, we'll lose big.
THEY can afford a 50-state strategy, we cannot.


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49. This explains why there are so many RW nut jobs here! We get little, if any, response to the

Tea Party ads, which creates life long Right Wingers who have been raised on this crap. There was a noticeable difference when Howard Dean sent money here, then back to business as usual.
There is a large untapped reservoir of potential Democratic voters that we need to reach out to and get involved. If we had kept up the 50 state strategy Wendy Davis would probably not be trailing a terrible, evil candidate like Greg Abbott! When Texas does turn Blue, it's lights out on the Republican Party!


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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2014, 10:43:01 AM »
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Rapeuglicans

I love these little made-up names they use.  This is a new one.
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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2014, 10:46:36 AM »
Quote from: Chris_ on October 23, 2014, 10:43:01 AM
I love these little made-up names they use.  This is a new one.

Have you guys been out raping again?

Tsk, tsk.
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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 11:02:28 AM »
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Obama used Dean and the Left to win the presidency, then threw them aside. Why so brutally you ask? Because he wanted the Center-Right to see him trash the Left.

I don't agree with the way you view it, but for the sake of argument let's say what you believe is true.

Why not trash the Left? Com'n, take a look in the mirror, rhett o rick. What else are you good for? The Left are dumber than a bag of hammers and, quite frankly, your political positions are such that you don't deserve to have legislative representation at any level of gov't. What you claim you stand for in public and what you really desire (but are unwilling to say out loud) are not the same. In fact here at CC, we're more willing to be honest about who and what you truly believe and desire than *you* are.

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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2014, 11:41:35 AM »
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Obama used Dean and the Left to win the presidency, then threw them aside. Why so brutally you ask? Because he wanted the Center-Right to see him trash the Left.

If I recall the actual reality of the thing (correct me if in error),Dean was put in by the Clintons to keep him at bay for the run up of Hills 2008 presidential campaign.
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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2014, 12:44:28 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on October 23, 2014, 10:46:36 AM
Have you guys been out raping again?

Tsk, tsk.

yes, every chance I get
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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2014, 01:29:23 PM »
Quote from: njpines on October 23, 2014, 12:44:28 PM
yes, every chance I get

Why can't you live in my area?!!  I'd even wear my clothes too tight/ short.
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2014, 01:31:20 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on October 23, 2014, 10:46:36 AM
Have you guys been out raping again?

Tsk, tsk.
Nawh....to much like work. I hire a bunch of illegals to do it.
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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2014, 01:47:57 PM »
Quote from: njpines on October 23, 2014, 12:44:28 PM
yes, every chance I get

Call me next time. I'll leave the door unlocked.

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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2014, 02:05:31 PM »
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18. I seem to recall A HUGE Democratic Sweep in 2006 And again in 2008, but then what did they do with their HUGE Majorities?

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I wonder what happened?

Pelosi and Reid crashed the economy just to get a Democrap elected president in 2008.

Until 2006, every economic indicator showed a positive trend following the recession caused by 9-11.
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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2014, 03:45:56 AM »
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They can screw up the vote enough to delay things considerably.

So, a couple more years then?


Quote from: thundley4 on October 23, 2014, 02:05:31 PM
Pelosi and Reid crashed the economy just to get a Democrap elected president in 2008.

Until 2006, every economic indicator showed a positive trend following the recession caused by 9-11.

You need re-education, ......... Comrade.
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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2014, 01:58:24 PM »
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"The DC DEms are Center-Right Conservatives."
That statement right there should warrant a one-way life time ticket to a double padded cell for anyone delusional enough to even THINK it, let alone say it out loud.
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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2014, 02:00:35 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on October 23, 2014, 10:46:36 AM
Have you guys been out raping again?

Tsk, tsk.
Relax already.
We're not "rape-raping", silly.
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Re: The Master: Dean was Right!!!!
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2014, 04:38:25 PM »
Charming...sign right here...

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