The little tyrants want to make it a street mugging

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I said the re-election of Obama would only make them worse, more open in their demands for abject thievery (not that you needed long ears to hear it coming).

Tom Rinaldo (14,481 posts)

Republicans want a "Grand Bargain"? OK, here it is
The overwhelming majority of Americans will continue to tolerate a tiny minority of self entitled elites hoarding vast sums of obscene personal wealth in return for an adaquate fully functioning economic safety net for the rest of us. Without that minimum guarentee, the Social Contract is Null and Void. Class warfare will no longer be waged exclusively on battlefields of the super wealthy's choosing.

Peace and stability comes with a price, and that is the price. Deal or No Deal?

Tom Rinaldo (14,481 posts)

Republicans want a "Grand Bargain"? OK, here it is
The overwhelming majority of Americans will continue to tolerate a tiny minority of self entitled elites hoarding vast sums of obscene personal wealth in return for an adaquate fully functioning economic safety net for the rest of us. Without that minimum guarentee, the Social Contract is Null and Void. Class warfare will no longer be waged exclusively on battlefields of the super wealthy's choosing.

Peace and stability comes with a price, and that is the price. Deal or No Deal?

Tom Rinaldo (14,481 posts)
2. "The Social Contract" used to be a term well understood in American politics

Most recently it was voided beyond redemption on the issue of race and the price came due during the 1960's. Society scrambled to update and re-instate it rather than face the full reprecussions of losing it. It is now voided on the issue of class and the reprecussions are coming due, rapidly.

plethoro (199 posts)
3. Excellent post......................nft

docgee (127 posts)
4. If they would crack open a history book they would find out eventually that is ALWAYS the deal. nt

Demeter (61,972 posts)
6. Or the alternate ending

ala France, 1789, Russia 1917, China 1949, etc...

kcass1954 (1,541 posts)
7. Mr k keeps asking if I've sharpened my pitchfork.

Spitfire of ATJ (4,573 posts)
8. Here is MY idea of a "Grand Bargain"...

STFU Republicans or we declare "Supply Side" a failure and go back to the tax rates before we tried it.

70%

OK...

...but there was no wellfare state then either so --

starroute (10,073 posts)
9. Obscene income inequality plus a social safety net is ***not*** acceptable

The only grand bargain I'd like to see would be one that reverses the trend whereby gains in productivity to exclusively to the already wealthy, while wages for everyone else flatline.

As has been pointed out repeatedly, if it weren't for income equality the Social Security Trust Fund would be in fine shape -- it's the unexpected number of people making well below the cap that throws off the calculations done in the 1980s.

And income inequality makes us all less happy, less secure, and less creative -- the rich as well as everyone else.

Plus which, as long as some hoard a disproportionate amount of the nation's wealth, everyone else will be poor and dependent -- meaning the bargain could be cancelled at any time the rich decide there are a few more pennies they could be scooping up.

So no -- bargain not accepted.

Except none of you earned what it is you demand to take. You're too stupid, lazy and/or crooked to actually earn your own way through life so you resort to petty thievery as if Reid and Pelosi will ever do anything other than make you dance on a string.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021960186

[Dori]

I'll never understand this mentality.  I've never been jealous of other people having money. 

[Duke Nukum]

Essentially, they are asking to be serfs on some rich Barron’s estate. To be cared for from cradle in exchange for slave labor.

The DUmmies should be very careful about what they are asking for. 0bama may be more than willing to give it to them.

[Carl]

Tom Rinaldo (14,481 posts)

Republicans want a "Grand Bargain"? OK, here it is
The overwhelming majority of Americans will continue to tolerate a tiny minority of self entitled elites hoarding vast sums of obscene personal wealth in return for an adaquate fully functioning economic safety net for the rest of us. Without that minimum guarentee, the Social Contract is Null and Void. Class warfare will no longer be waged exclusively on battlefields of the super wealthy's choosing.

Peace and stability comes with a price, and that is the price. Deal or No Deal?

You have no idea the consequences of what you wish for.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

I'll never understand this mentality.  I've never been jealous of other people having money. 

Those who can, do.

Those who can't, teach.

Those who won't, vote Democrat.

[Wineslob]

Replace "self entitled elites" with "The Government".

Problem solved.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

You have no idea the consequences of what you wish for.

Why should they fear the consequences? They're smarter than you.

Just ask them.

[Karin]

STFU Republicans or we declare "Supply Side" a failure and go back to the tax rates before we tried it.

70%

He acts like he can wave his scepter and make it so. 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

He acts like he can wave his scepter and make it so. 

They want Obama to dissolve the House of Reps and declare it by diktat under emergency powers.

Just watch what they demand when we go over The Cliff and hit bottom.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Tom Rinaldo (14,481 posts)

Republicans want a "Grand Bargain"? OK, here it is
The overwhelming majority of Americans will continue to tolerate a tiny minority of self entitled elites hoarding vast sums of obscene personal wealth in return for an adaquate fully functioning economic safety net for the rest of us. Without that minimum guarentee, the Social Contract is Null and Void. Class warfare will no longer be waged exclusively on battlefields of the super wealthy's choosing.

Peace and stability comes with a price, and that is the price. Deal or No Deal?

...With "an adaquate fully functioning economic safety net for the rest of us" meaning that you will take from everyone who has more than you do until they have even less than you, believing it means you will never have to actually work again.  Even if you are so naive and gullible personally as to think a generous safety net won't be exploited by a cynical selfish majority of your fellow leeches, that's how it'll play out, take a look at SSDI now. 

Of course the economics of that are impossible beyond the short term, though math is apparently too hard for Democrats.  Even then it obviously isn't punitive enough to satisfy your little Commie buddies on DU.  When the 'Deal' amounts to abject surrender followed by slavery, it's better to just fight it out and make you spend the effort to take what you're trying to steal by force and at some real cost instead of handing it over and saving you the effort, it'll hasten your ultimate destruction that way.

[NHSparky]

Newsflash--what most of us consider a "safety net" is what WE have worked our entire lives to provide for ourselves and our families, not for you.

You want a safety net?  Go make one.  Else you'll have a little class warfare you don't want, and you don't want to find out how it ends (hint: not well for you.)

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Newsflash--what most of us consider a "safety net" is what WE have worked our entire lives to provide for ourselves and our families, not for you.

You want a safety net?  Go make one.  Else you'll have a little class warfare you don't want, and you don't want to find out how it ends (hint: not well for you.)

What they mean is for their economic safety they're going to catch the rest of us in a net.

[franksolich]

The demented primitive has no grasp of history.

Demeter (61,972 posts)

6. Or the alternate ending

ala France, 1789, Russia 1917, China 1949, etc...

Those events were incited by the productive uprising against parasites.

Well, who's the productive, and who's the parasites, in today's society?

If the demented primitive's living off some social services, I suspect the demented primitive's walking to the gallows long before anybody here does.

[jukin]

kcass1954 (1,541 posts)
7. Mr k keeps asking if I've sharpened my pitchfork.

Just like a scum sucking DUche to bring a pitchfork to a high power rifle fight.

Demeter (61,972 posts)

6. Or the alternate ending

ala France, 1789, Russia 1917, China 1949, etc...

The very first bullet to come anywhere near any of the DUches:
1. Pooping of pants.
2. Running away screaming and crying.
3. Hiding in the parent's basement.

The thing is we have the weapons, the training, and the experience.

[JohnnyReb]

Safety net huh.....well, we catch all the DUmmies in the "safety net", tie it tightly at the top, add a few rocks and sink it in the deepest part of the ocean.

[BadCat]

The demented primitive has no grasp of history.

Those events were incited by the productive uprising against parasites.

Well, who's the productive, and who's the parasites, in today's society?

If the demented primitive's living off some social services, I suspect the demented primitive's walking to the gallows long before anybody here does.

guillotine, frank.
we can make sure she gets a dull blade

[Airwolf]

Just like a scum sucking DUche to bring a pitchfork to a high power rifle fight.

The very first bullet to come anywhere near any of the DUches:
1. Pooping of pants.
2. Running away screaming and crying.
3. Hiding in the parent's basement.

The thing is we have the weapons, the training, and the experience.

And the biggest reason for them to argue for gun control. With no guns they can run over all the rest of us with nothing to fear.

[NHSparky]

Just like a scum sucking DUche to bring a pitchfork to a high power rifle fight.

The very first bullet to come anywhere near any of the DUches:
1. Pooping of pants.
2. Running away screaming and crying.
3. Hiding in the parent's basement.

The thing is we have the weapons, the training, and the experience.

I saw a beautiful Browning .300 WinMag at Kittery Trading Post over the weekend.  Brand new, $1200.  Needs a scope, but man, what a sweet piece of iron.