My take: they love this story because for the first time they have something of substnce instead of the usual parade of Ehrin Watada, Jimmy Massey, Jesse McBeth, Tom Harkin, and some doofus that ran for president.
KansDem (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 05:56 PM
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1. So sad...so tragic...
I don't know this Pfc. Green, but wonder if he had the mindset of someone who would do this dastardly act if he hadn't been sent to Iraq. I wonder if something over there made him "snap."
And the poor girl and her family. So many deaths for no reason other than some neo-con hegemonists decided to lie us into war for more power and wealth.
As a result of the actions of Bush and Cheney, these real humans might still be alive and enjoying life planning their day and future. Yet, they all were put into an inhuman situation by inhumans.
I don't think the real evil of this incident has been entirely held to account.
Here's an alternate theory:
He's a piece of shit.
joshcryer (1000+ posts) Fri May-08-09 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #2
16. I know military, a *lot* of them are psychopaths.
I know it's "not politically correct" to say it, but good percentage of the guys I have met and hung out with were bonified insane, they had bloodlust and wanted to kill, rape, torture. They'd watch war movies and wax nostalgic about their kills.
In fact, if they're not that way before they join up, they become that way after being exposed to that culture.
I am *not* saying all military people are like this, but in my experience it has been the majority, no doubt. You don't *joke* about raping and killing someone and then pretend as if it was a complete *joke*. There's always truth to ones twisted views.
John F Kennedy, John F Kerry, Jim Webb, Tammy Duckworth...
...all under the bus.
And yet when these idiots run for office they are suddenly and conveniently rehabilitated into the pinnacles of moral bravery.
uppityperson (1000+ posts) Fri May-08-09 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. Majority of military people are "bonified insane"?
Perhaps you mean bonafide and while I agree, obviously if you read what I've written, that being in a war zone can seriously affect your mental health state, I disagree with "the majority" of people in the military being "bonified (sic) insane, they had bloodlust and wanted to kill, rape, torture. They'd watch war movies and wax nostalgic about their kills"
You must mean Tom in Tiburon.
joshcryer (1000+ posts) Fri May-08-09 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. Have you spent any quality time with our military?
uppityperson (1000+ posts) Fri May-08-09 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #19
26. Yes. Have you?
joshcryer (1000+ posts) Sat May-09-09 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #26
30. Daily, thanks.
I do not have a high opinion of most of them. There are a few outstanding individuals, though.
Still pus us ahead of DU which has zero redeeming value.
Sultana (1000+ posts) Thu May-07-09 06:04 PM
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3. ****ing piece of shit, send him and his buddies to Iraq for some Iraqi style punishment
American Imperialism at its worst!
RIP, al Janabi family, safe journey.
Ah yes, it was official Bush policy. All that training about ethics and adherence to the laws of wars was really wink-wink-go-out-and-rape-and-murder-wink-wink.
Have the DUmmies noticed which country had the laws, enforced the laws and prosecuted and will be punishing the offender?
Or didn't these laws exist before Jan 20, 2009?
iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Fri May-08-09 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. i dont.
Edited on Fri May-08-09 01:19 PM by iamthebandfanman
life in prison with people trying to rape you randomly should be sufficient.
death is an easy exist for someone who has no life to live anyway.
WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Fri May-08-09 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #11
22. Yeah, an IRAQI prison
TRANSLATION: Those are OUR Ba'athist rape rooms now!
lunatica (1000+ posts) Fri May-08-09 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. Does this make you better than the murdering rapist?
This is a result of war. Any war ever has had these exact same things happen. This is what war does and is. War is the biggest atrocity humans can commit against humans. But people keep getting all caught up in the jingoistic uber patriotic hogwash that they think is patriotic. It's all a manipulation by governments to get as much power as they can off the lives of the people they send to kill and the people who are killed. It's a big ****ing insane manipulation of the populace who somehow just doesn't get that they're being used.
Shall we talk about how many CIVILIANS are violent criminals?
Aethertek (38 posts) Fri May-08-09 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. Freeper Excuse
Same lame arguments that the freepers use on the other boards when I condemn them for their caviler attitude for the lives of innocents.
"Well thats what happens in war" "Collateral damage is legal according to the rules of war."
& all the rest of their putrid arguments.
That boy was sick before he got there, a waste of breathable air, just no one knew it yet.
War didn't make him a raping murderer it just gave him the opportunity.
"Lunatica" apropos nom de plume you got there.
No Peace
Kevin~
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