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Offline Lord Undies

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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2009, 08:19:42 AM »
Quote from: djones520 on March 31, 2009, 08:05:34 AM
In my opinion, the only thing that would weaken the US Military by allowing gays to openly serve, would be the infighting that it would cause by people who can't accept it.  Gay's who are there to truly serve are not going to be holding their gay pride parades on base.  Those who aren't there to serve will get drummed out so fast it won't even be funny.

You are assuming.  Apparently you have no idea of the possibilities for politically correct "change and tolerance" once liberalism has won the day.    
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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2009, 08:23:04 AM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on March 31, 2009, 08:19:42 AM
You are assuming.  Apparently you have no idea of the possibilities for politically correct "change and tolerance" once liberalism has won the day.    

So you think that people who have served their whole lives are just going to let the SanFran Gay Pride Society come in and start dictating how the military should be ran?

No.  If anything, their conduct will be scrutinized even harder.  Military Equal Oppurtunity offices are going to be getting slammed the first couple of years by any percieved sense of sexual harrasment, and they'll have to follow up on it.  The military will have to make efforts to show that they are going to treat them the same as they have always treated everyone else, because if not then retention will plummet.
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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2009, 08:30:50 AM »
Quote from: djones520 on March 31, 2009, 08:16:52 AM
Our military prowess isn't based off of Bible-Thumping rednecks.  It's based off of a cross section of the entire US.  We know gays do serve in the military right now.  It's not a large number, but they do.  They don't detract from the service at all, hell we've all ready the stories about good service members being forced out because it was discovered that they where gay.

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So if the current system works don't fix it by allowing liberals to work their social wundermajik.

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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2009, 08:42:49 AM »
Quote from: asdf2231 on March 31, 2009, 08:02:45 AM
Hell, the Spartans used to scare the crap out of everyone and they were gayer than a pride parade in San Fran.

And that means we should adopt the same standards for our military how exactly?
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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2009, 08:43:59 AM »
Quote from: djones520 on March 31, 2009, 08:23:04 AM
So you think that people who have served their whole lives are just going to let the SanFran Gay Pride Society come in and start dictating how the military should be ran?

No.  If anything, their conduct will be scrutinized even harder.  Military Equal Oppurtunity offices are going to be getting slammed the first couple of years by any percieved sense of sexual harrasment, and they'll have to follow up on it.  The military will have to make efforts to show that they are going to treat them the same as they have always treated everyone else, because if not then retention will plummet.

You are assuming the best again instead of looking at reality.  Currently, the C-I-C is a diehard liberal with a lump of charcoal for a heart and Satan's essence for a soul.  The liberals' goal is to destroy the USA, and especially the military, as fast as possible using whatever is possible.  Sounds like a recipe to me.

You underestimate the radical homosexual/liberal agenda.  That's a huge mistake, at least for the rest of us.
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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2009, 08:50:08 AM »
Quote from: Lord Undies on March 31, 2009, 08:43:59 AM
You are assuming the best again instead of looking at reality.  Currently, the C-I-C is a diehard liberal with a lump of charcoal for a heart and Satan's essence for a soul.  The liberals' goal is to destroy the USA, and especially the military, as fast as possible using whatever is possible.  Sounds like a recipe to me.

You underestimate the radical homosexual/liberal agenda.  That's a huge mistake, at least for the rest of us.

The CinC cannot revue every MEO case.  If he was going to, then there would be no point in having one.  Sure, I may be a little "naive" in how I'm seeing things, but your being just as much if not more radical in how you think it will effect the military.
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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2009, 08:59:39 AM »
Quote from: djones520 on March 31, 2009, 08:23:04 AM
So you think that people who have served their whole lives are just going to let the SanFran Gay Pride Society come in and start dictating how the military should be ran?

Yes.  Look how well that kind of thinking has worked every other place where the gay lifestyle has been forced to be an acceptable way of life.

They now want to dictate sex ed...marriage...who gets benefits and health insurance.  Transgender bathrooms.  The list goes on.

If you think sexual harassment claims are out of control now...let something dumb like this happen.  You think you go to a LOT of EO and Sexual Harassment "training" now...you'll lose more time you could be working to this kind of mind numbing crap if DADT is repealed.

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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2009, 09:00:24 AM »
Quote from: djones520 on March 31, 2009, 07:57:22 AM
Do you doubt the abilities of the IDF and JSDF though?

The JSDF?   You're kidding, right?  It has never seen combat ANYWHERE in its entire existence.  The IDF is very good at what it does, but what it does is all done within 200 miles of the members' homes, and other than some TTPs it is not necessarily a model the US can get a lot of useful info from on these issues, considering its policies on such things derive from a bizarre mish-mash of rabbinical dictates and Left-wing European socialist ideals.   

It's a complex issue, and US culture is different than any of the examples people want to push forward (all the examples seem to be on the 'pro' side so far, nobody seems to have mentioned that the dogshit-quality Arab armies are chock full of fudge-packers).  No doubt we will have a DOD-wide unified policy, although the zoomies, squids, and grunts all live in quite different worlds in terms of risks, discipline, and accommodations.   
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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2009, 09:02:40 AM »
Quote from: djones520 on March 31, 2009, 08:50:08 AM
The CinC cannot revue every MEO case.  If he was going to, then there would be no point in having one.  Sure, I may be a little "naive" in how I'm seeing things, but your being just as much if not more radical in how you think it will effect the military.

If common sense is radical, then I'm a radical.  I'm also not against homosexuals serving in the military - they have for thousands of years.  What I am against is having homosexuals elevated to some protected class inside the military, which is the actual goal of the ones pushing for this ridiculous "change".

Separating emotions and logic goes a long way in helping to see things as they are.  Liberalism in any shape, form, or fashion is not a friend to liberty or free people.  Every goal liberals have, which is always describes in dishonest terms in order to fool as many people as possible, has a dark goal.  This push for homosexual specialness, disguised as "equal rights", is no exception.
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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2009, 09:12:06 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on March 31, 2009, 09:00:24 AM
The JSDF?   You're kidding, right?  It has never seen combat ANYWHERE in its entire existence.  The IDF is very good at what it does, but what it does is all done within 200 miles of the members' homes, and other than some TTPs it is not necessarily a model the US can get a lot of useful info from on these issues, considering its policies on such things derive from a bizarre mish-mash of rabbinical dictates and Left-wing European socialist ideals.   

It's a complex issue, and US culture is different than any of the examples people want to push forward (all the examples seem to be on the 'pro' side so far, nobody seems to have mentioned that the dogshit-quality Arab armies are chock full of fudge-packers).  No doubt we will have a DOD-wide unified policy, although the zoomies, squids, and grunts all live in quite different worlds in terms of risks, discipline, and accommodations.   

I agree with you.
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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2009, 09:32:31 AM »
Quote from: Mr Snuggle Bunny on March 31, 2009, 08:10:03 AM
Different cultures.

The problem with pro-gay military activists is they assume their culture is THE correct culture. If the so-called "multiculturalists" are to be believed then even the most "backward homophobic Bible-thumping redneck" is entitled to be such and if we find it is the backward homophobic redneck that carries the lion's share of military enlistments then we have to ask whether our military prowess is worth sacrificing on behalf of a statisically insignificant segment of the population that cannot/will not cover the difference created by the alienation of those who currently serve.

Bingo. But the pro-gay military activists will shove their stale argument, "B-b-b-but it's the sense of the American people that being gay doesn't preclude military service," as if that is an argument at all.

Bottom line: Homosexuality is incompatible with military service, despite the protestations to the contrary. It's not only wrong, it's public law. (Yes, DADT became public law after Slick Willie got done with it.) And while laws can be changed (as the cum-garglers clearly want to do), a platoon sergeant trying to explain to a squad leader that another squad leader is a fudgepacker but that it's okay, doesn't quite sound right to my ears.

Culturally, we are not ready for this horseshit and I hope and pray to God that we'll NEVER be ready for this garbage.

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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2009, 12:20:38 PM »
Quote from: asdf2231 on March 31, 2009, 08:02:45 AM
Hell, the Spartans used to scare the crap out of everyone and they were gayer than a pride parade in San Fran.

Actually, it was much less wide spread than pop culture history portrays. 300 wasn't that far off the mark. It was more like a mentor program and many times the mentor was a family member or dear family friend. Kind of like your uncle teaching you to bow hunt. But I would like to point out that if the "group think" about ancient Greece/Sparta were correct then they'd be a nation of pedophiles and pederasts. Supposedly gays don't want to be labeled as such. Even a few decades ago when I did an independent study course on the life of Sappho for my wimmins history course it was a dirty little secret that ancient Greece wasn't as gay as we have/are taught. Now, many of those writing about their culture and society (including the military), those philosophers and historians were pretty light in the sandals. That's not unusual for men in the arts. People tend to color things based on their own lenses...in this case fairy pink. But I guess everyone needs some validation, believing gayness was "the norm" in ancient cultures makes them feel better about themselves is much more important than historical accuracy.

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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2009, 02:09:27 PM »
I still have trouble finding anywhere the "civil right" to bugger another mans ass.
 
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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2009, 02:32:46 PM »
Quote from: Wineslob on March 31, 2009, 02:09:27 PM
I still have trouble finding anywhere the "civil right" to bugger another mans ass.
 
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It's called the 16th amendment.  Traditional interpretations though, reserve the "right" of buggary to the Gummint specifically.
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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2009, 04:55:56 PM »
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We're red blooded Americans, AND mainstream democrats, and the rest of you asswipes are just day late shit for brains un American bigots, no matter what shade of lipstick you put on the pig.

Ridiculous - that you should even be on DU.

Yeah, right! Seein' as how the US military is probly 98% conservative repubs, I find it relly hard to believe this asswipe ever served! Oh, and he is welcome to come and "beat the shit" outa me any time he feels froggy! Web warrior, nothing else. I have to protect myself quite often in order to put pukes like this in jail! Sure would like to give him the chance to "beat my ass"!
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Re: Big Damn Gay Army Thread. (DU's Homo Mafia realizes it's going under the bus)
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2009, 05:12:20 PM »
Quote from: djones520 on March 31, 2009, 08:50:08 AM
The CinC cannot revue every MEO case.  If he was going to, then there would be no point in having one.  Sure, I may be a little "naive" in how I'm seeing things, but your being just as much if not more radical in how you think it will effect the military.

DJ, how many beds in a barracks room does the USAF have for those E-1 through E-9?

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« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2009, 05:36:05 PM »
Of the few times I found out that some guy was gay it wasn't likethe gays want us to believe how they would be serving. They both acted with conduct that would have gotten them serious jail time had they tried to do anything more then what they tried to get away with. I say that is the biggest reason that DADT should still be enforced. Gays want to serve then they can accept the fact that you can't get away with forcing yourself on anyone anymore then a straight person can.
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« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2009, 06:04:48 PM »
Quote from: Airwolf on April 03, 2009, 05:36:05 PM
Of the few times I found out that some guy was gay it wasn't likethe gays want us to believe how they would be serving. They both acted with conduct that would have gotten them serious jail time had they tried to do anything more then what they tried to get away with. I say that is the biggest reason that DADT should still be enforced. Gays want to serve then they can accept the fact that you can't get away with forcing yourself on anyone anymore then a straight person can.

I guess you didn't read the Radical Homosexual agenda Memo.  Forcing yourself on someone of the same sex is just "testing the waters".  It's perfectly acceptable.  It's the only way to know who may be accepting of your advances but too inhibited or shy to initiate such natural intimacy. 

Now, why this makes sense in the homosexual arena, but is a crime when applied to nature's honest natural purpose is not discussed.  Maybe it has something to do with the absolute zero possibility of babies being involved.  I know it has nothing to do with respecting another person's body, religion, or normal tendencies.
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