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Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« on: January 10, 2011, 04:02:39 PM »
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Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office


This is the report that Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik has been dreading since the tragic event on Saturday January 8.

The sheriff has been editorializing and politicizing the event since he took the podium to report on the incident. His blaming of radio personalities and bloggers is a pre-emptive strike because Mr. Dupnik knows this tragedy lays at his feet and his office. Six people died on his watch and he could have prevented it.  He needs to step up and start apologizing to the families of the victims instead of spinning this event to serve his own political agenda.

Jared Loughner, pronounced by the Sheriff as Lock-ner, saying it was the Polish pronunciation. Of course he meant Scott or Irish but that isn’t the point.

The point is he and his office have had previous contact with the alleged assailant in the past and that is how he knows how to pronounce the name.

Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation. My sympathies and my heart goes out to her and the rest of Mr. Loughner’s family. This tragedy must be tearing them up inside wondering if they had done the right things in trying to manage Jared’s obvious mental instability.

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2011, 04:42:29 PM »
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 05:32:57 PM »
It's NOT Dumpnik's fault, dammit, it's Sheriff Joe's!!  Don't you know that every bad thing that happens in AZ law enforcement is Sheriff Arpaio's?  Don't believe me?  Ask any DUmmie.   :argh:
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 08:03:33 PM »
The Cholla Jumps
by James Kelley
Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation. My sympathies and my heart goes out to her and the rest of Mr. Loughner’s family. This tragedy must be tearing them up inside wondering if they had done the right things in trying to manage Jared’s obvious mental instability.
Wow. Seems like Dupnick should stop with the politics and get back into doing his job. To protect and to serve. Maybe "if" he had done his job in the first place.

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 08:18:12 PM »
I saw Dumpdick's first press conference after the shooting. This guy said over and over again that it was not uncommon for public figures to receive death threats. He said HE had received death threats.

I remember thinking, "Damn, he is waxing on and on about that 'not uncommon for public figures to receive death threats' meme" to the point that I figured either he was old and decrepit and wasn't thinking right (he seemed fairly nervous on-camera), or he was angry at the shooter, or he was otherwise not well.

Then he launched into his own vitriolic garbage about vitriol. Not just once, but several times during his "press conference". At one point I told the ******* TV screen to STFU and stick to the facts and keep your bullshit politics out of it, sheriff.

The shooter was known to Dumpdick - that part is pretty clear.

It'll be interesting to see what kind of blown opportunities Dumpdick had to pull the creep in and roust him, and failed to do so.
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 08:27:22 PM »
And I see now that the sheriff has "lawyered up."

Oh my, Sheriff.  You done stuck your crank in the light socket, didncha?
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2011, 08:27:47 PM »
Then he launched into his own vitriolic garbage about vitriol. Not just once, but several times during his "press conference". At one point I told the ******* TV screen to STFU and stick to the facts and keep your bullshit politics out of it, sheriff.
Yeah, he seemed to make it clear where he stood. More than once.
Politics should not even be muttered out of his mouth. He serves the public and should be "neutral" on the subject. Why are they asking this "sheriff" on his opinion on the shooting anyways?

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 12:05:34 AM »
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?action=post;quote=595150;topic=53147.50;num_replies=53;sesc=81823c516b2284616ba9b6feb9e7bc7d

He's crashing because he's a narcissist. People are a supply to him, like air, nothing more. Narcs always have the next victim(s) picked out, and move on before you realize they're compulsive liars- before their bullshit catches up to them. Obutthead pushed too hard and too fast; he broke his supply lines. The only time a narc panics is when they can't run.
But don't count him out yet- narcs always find new sources. He will pull something out of his ass, and move on to wow the world (via the UN?)
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Holder seemingly clarified his message by noting the alarming rise in the number of “homegrown terrorists,” meaning “Americans who are more than willing to attack and kill their fellow citizens”:

    The threat has changed from simply worrying about foreigners coming here, to worrying about people in the United States, American citizens—raised here, born here, and who for whatever reason, have decided that they are going to become radicalized and take up arms against the nation in which they were born.

Deja vu?  This shooting is too damned convenient for me. 
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 12:32:14 AM »
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?action=post;quote=595150;topic=53147.50;num_replies=53;sesc=81823c516b2284616ba9b6feb9e7bc7d

Deja vu?  This shooting is too damned convenient for me. 

You know, I have thought since I heard about this tragedy, and watched Fox on Saturday night and yesterday, that beyond the obvious, something was not quite right here.

Dupnik, with all his spouting off....who has ever heard their local sheriff talk like this guy did/does? To be almost in a campaign mode, when he should be overseeing the investigation of this horrific crime. I recognize that the FBI have moved in, but they are only doing their part regarding Giffords, her aides, and the judge. Everyone else, is the sheriff's responsibility.

The shooter has clammed up. He isn't talking to anybody. At the very least, I would think he would be spouting his thoughts, "theories", or something. If he's as crazy as he's purported to be...he is certainly being very silent and contained.

Where are his parents? Haven't seen or heard anything of them. The kid's only 22, they must be somewhere.

I saw one of his professors from college interviewed on Fox earlier. He's a math professor. He had a campus cop come into his class and observe the shooter, because the kid made him so nervous.

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 01:19:31 AM »
I'm convinced that Dumbdick is really Soros, sans toupee.

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 01:22:31 AM »
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FBI agents working on the Gabrielle Giffords shooting encountered trouble gaining entry to the suspect's family home Monday morning.

Family members of Jared Loughner apparently had put on 4-by-4 double-thick plywood that blocked access to the front porch of their north Tucson home.

At about 12:25 p.m., agents began banging on the blockade, yelling, "This is the FBI. Let us in."

Some agents were sent behind the house, and they were able to get inside after talking to family members.

It's not immediately clear why the Loughner family had put up the blockade, but there were reports of at least one media representative who had gotten to the yard of the family home earlier in the day. Loughner remains in custody and has an appearance in federal court later Monday.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/10/20110110gabrielle-giffords-shooting-suspect-family-barricade-brk10-ON.html#ixzz1AhxDyKBJ
 

What a coincidence that the first person to report the 'facts' is the sheriff who knows the suspect personally, is well aware of his mental instability and covered it up.
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Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County.
And the first words out of his mouth blame 'talk radio', the very people Loughner has been threatening.  
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 01:49:18 AM »
I thought he looked familiar...

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2011, 04:56:59 AM »
Sheriff Dupnik has seriously compromised his position as the top Law Enforcement Officer for Pima County, as such I'm organizing a recall petition initiative.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Recall-Sheriff-Dupnik/191322757544498
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2011, 06:31:57 AM »
And I see now that the sheriff has "lawyered up."

Oh my, Sheriff.  You done stuck your crank in the light socket, didncha?

If you watch the interview carefully Sparky you will find that the Sherriff told the interviewer ----If you were my lawyer you would tell me not to answer some questions."    I cannot find in any interview where he said he HAD a lawyer.

This Sherriff is OLD, been a cop for 50 years, he is watching his state being invaded and no one will help him or the citizens of AZ. combat the crime that comes most shockingly every day.    His Cops put their life on the line 24/7  and things just get worse as the courts turn illegals arrested for murder and drug dealing back to Mexico and they come back to continue their crimes the very next day.

He must feel bad about the police not having some security for the event, but, perhaps they could not spare an extra man or two as they were all out tracking down murderers and being shot at by the gangs in the city.

Things have really changed for a LAW MAN that began their carear in the 1950's ---Laws change, crimes change, criminals change as time goes by.  This LAW MAN has to be in his mid 70's or so, I would imagine at this point in his life he is so fed up with the insanity from the comunity to the administrations on the highest level, he has to put the blame on some one as to hold on to his own sanity.

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 07:29:46 AM »
No, vesta. DUmpdick refused to enforce the immigration laws.

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Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnick kept his mouth shut during the great Arizona debate on locking up undocumented aliens.

Come August, when his 500 deputies become responsible for busting illegals, the sheriff's actions will speak louder than any words: His men will look the other way.

"We are not immigration officials," Dupnick vowed Thursday. "We fight crime. The state put us in this position."
"Our jails would be filled in a day," said the sheriff, whose office is about 110 miles south of Phoenix. "We would need to prosecute hundreds of people a day.

"We don't have the manpower for so many arrests, and it would cost taxpayers a lot of money in prosecutions."

"This law, it's just irresponsible," he said. "It makes them [legislators] look like racists."

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 07:57:36 AM »
And I see now that the sheriff has "lawyered up."

Oh my, Sheriff.  You done stuck your crank in the light socket, didncha?

Reminds me of the fellow from New Orleans....


Duplicitous Nick Crying Crocodile tears all of a sudden??   Like maybe getting ready to defend against some civil suits heading his way?
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2011, 01:01:55 PM »
No, vesta. DUmpdick refused to enforce the immigration laws.


I could not get your link to work, but from the information you did send, I can see his point.

The police have their hands full with citizen crimes and simply have no way to enforce and also do the job of another agency ICE.

Police in a small town in Maine or New Hampshire tried that, they began to arrest illegals for trespassing and ICE would not go along with them.

There is simply no way police can take over a job that is not part of their job description.   Like it or not, he is correct that town courts and jails would be full to the brim and then, what after being found guilty, the sheriff has no authority to have the criminals deported.

This is a job for ICE and the Federal Courts to handle.  I have never heard of any government agency expecting civilian police to handle any crime that has a Federal Crime name to it. Bank robbery, bombing or threats, the Man Act etc send in the FBI and they take control of the case.

It is a bag of worms Alpha, in Mass. ICE raided a factory and rounded up close to 100 illegals working there.  Now the problems came in, most of the workers were woman with Anchor baby's. One could on the face of it deport the woman, but their children were American citizens and could not be deported.  Who with any decency separates a child from their mother especially infants and toddlers.?  What kind of mother would take home to a land of mass murders their children.?

We have come to a point where our Government must fish or cut bait.  The anchor baby's law has to go give the citizenship of the mother to the child.

The Government cannot stand by while any state is invaded by people from another country and tell the freaking sheriff,' this is your problem, handle it.

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2011, 01:21:26 PM »
Vesta, Dupnik is also against SB 1070. I have a credible source that have people in their group that knows him personally. He simply refuses to even address illegal immigration. Their people do NOT care for him one iota. They will be calling for his resignation, officially, before much longer. The group helps the Border Patrol apprehend drug smugglers & illegals.
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2011, 01:29:03 PM »
That sheriff needs to be run out of town back to his million dollar ranch
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2011, 01:32:47 PM »
Vesta, Dupnik is also against SB 1070. I have a credible source that have people in their group that knows him personally. He simply refuses to even address illegal immigration. Their people do NOT care for him one iota. They will be calling for his resignation, officially, before much longer. The group helps the Border Patrol apprehend drug smugglers & illegals.

Thor, I have no idea what SB 1070 is, please fill me in--Thank You.

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 01:41:43 PM »
Thor, I have no idea what SB 1070 is, please fill me in--Thank You.


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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2011, 01:43:11 PM »
Thor, I have no idea what SB 1070 is, please fill me in--Thank You.

SB1070 was the anti-illegal immigration law that Arizona passed. This a-Hole sheriff said he would not enforce the law.

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 03:30:28 PM »
Dumpdick whines because he's on the firing line - a helluva lot of illegals come through his AO and he chooses to ignore the ****ing law.

SB 1070 says, in part, (and I'm paraphrasing here) that local police have the obligation of checking on the citizenship status when they've stopped an individual for some other type of offense or traffic violation or whatever.

Dumpdick is too lazy to even do that. He'd rather just ignore the law, as if it's going away.

If Dumpdick took an oath of office to enforce the law to the best of his ability, that's grounds right there to recall and/or fire his ass.
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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2011, 05:39:55 AM »

look it up, bitch.

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Re: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2011, 08:37:41 AM »
...This Sheriff is OLD, been a cop for 50 years, he is watching his state being invaded and no one will help him or the citizens of AZ. combat the crime that comes most shockingly every day.    His Cops put their life on the line 24/7  and things just get worse as the courts turn illegals arrested for murder and drug dealing back to Mexico and they come back to continue their crimes the very next day....

Vesta, this turd has made his county a "sanctuary" for the folks invading "his state".  He is the very anti-thesis to Sheriff Joe Arpaio, and if his deputies are putting their lives on the line when they go out to do their job, it's at least partly because he himself has set policies which make their jobs more difficult, and then tied their hands before sending 'em out.

He deserves none of the sympathy you seem willing to grant him.
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