AZ to LA: okay, FINE!

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

And we all know what THAT means when the wife says that in marital disputes.

Dear Mayor Villaraigosa,

I was dismayed to learn that the Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott Arizona and Arizona-based companies — a vote you strongly supported — to show opposition to SB 1070 (Support our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act).

You explained your support of the boycott as follows: “While we recognize that as neighbors, we share resources and ties with the State of Arizona that may be difficult to sever, our goal is not to hurt the local economy of Los Angeles, but to impact the economy of Arizona.  Our intent is to use our dollars — or the withholding of our dollars — to send a message.”

I received your message; please receive mine.  As a state-wide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona’s electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the “resources and ties” we share with the City of Los Angeles. In fact, approximately twenty-five percent of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona.

If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.

People of goodwill can disagree over the merits of SB 1070. A state-wide economic boycott of Arizona is not a message sent in goodwill.

Sincerely,

Commissioner Gary Pierce

http://hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/letter-azcc-villaraigosa.pdf.pdf

[Mike220]

Very nice.

[IassaFTots]

 

I love that.

[Ralph Wiggum]

[The Village Idiot]

Thats a great idea.

[NHSparky]

Suh-weet.  I like.

Here's another point to consider when you encounter a ri-tard lib who is spouting all the "AB-1070 is eeeeeevillllleeee" talking points.

Ask them how many Hispanics are leaving Arizona in anticipation of the new law.

[thundley4]

Suh-weet.  I like.

Here's another point to consider when you encounter a ri-tard lib who is spouting all the "AB-1070 is eeeeeevillllleeee" talking points.

Ask them how many Hispanics are leaving Arizona in anticipation of the new law.

I think that is what California is worried about.  Instead of just having to worry about illegals from their southern border, now they'll have them coming from Arizona as well.

[5412]

Hi,

I hope they shut em down!  They should wait until the hottest damn day in the middle of the summer and pull the switch and let them all sweat legals and illegals alike.

regards,
5412

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/18/az-utility-board-member-responds-to-la-boycott-over-sb1070/

[DumbAss Tanker]

If the gloves are really going to come off, AZ ought to go public with a public, full-on campaign to woo businesses out of the oppressive regulatory and litigation-heavy environment of CA and pull them across the border.  Leave all the revenue consumers in cess pool and bring the revenue producers over from the dark side.

[cavegal]

I just love it .. It is about time

[Chris_]

Other California cities, including Oakland, Berkely, and San Francisco, have passed similar measures.

Oakland?  Berkeley?  Yeah, there's a threat.  "We won't come to Arizona!"

I think most Arizona residents would be relieved.

[Godot showed up]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/14/some-in-arizona-canceling-trips-to-sd/

Some in Arizona canceling trips to S.D.
Outrage over local censure votes may be a misunderstanding

By Lori Weisberg, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

Friday, May 14, 2010 at 12:04 a.m.

San Diego tourism leaders and hoteliers fear they could lose a sizable chunk of business this summer from valued “Zonies” who are so angered by elected leaders’ recent censure of Arizona for its illegal-immigration law that they’re mounting an informal boycott of their own.

The San Diego Convention & Visitors Bureau and several hotels report receiving e-mails and letters from Arizona visitors saying they intend to change their plans to travel here in light of local outcry over their home state’s anti-illegal-immigration stance.

The bureau says it has received about 25 to 30 e-mails from Arizona residents reacting to resolutions passed last month by the San Diego City Council and school board, which were little more than symbolic protests aimed at the neighboring state’s lawmakers.

School board President Shelia Jackson said that while she was disappointed to hear of people opting to stay away from San Diego, she doesn’t regret her vote.

“It’s sad that people would cancel their plans to come here in reaction to that, but I still think we did the right thing,” Jackson said. “Certainly, we know how important tourism is to San Diego, and it wasn’t my intent to impact the tourism trade.”

Well you're going to regret it,  .

And all the rest of us--across the country--are keeping a list and checking it twice. We'll stay on top of who's naughty or nice.

Not only won't you ever be seeing a cent of this NYer's money (and I was actually thinking of going to Cali next year..that's over, and by the way, I would have definitely have spent some time in SD), every damn sports team or other association that boycotts AZ is invisible to me for now on. To lots of us.





http://www.kpho.com/news/23549107/detail.html

Arizonans Fighting Back Against Boycotts
New Effort to Boycott Groups Boycotting AZ Due To New Immigration Law
Jason Barry
Reporter, KPHO.com

POSTED: 6:43 pm MST May 13, 2010
UPDATED: 8:45 am MST May 14, 2010

PHOENIX -- Los Angeles has just become the nation's largest city to boycott Arizona for passing a tough immigration law.

Now, anti-protesters have come out to say they'll boycott L.A. right back.

Kelly Townsend of Gilbert doesn't like hearing about people across the country boycotting Arizona.

"I think it's an intimidation tactic that has caught on and people think if they make enough noise and have big enough tantrum, then they'll get their way," said Townsend.

Townsend has helped create a website, phoenixteaparty.ning.com, that supports Arizona's new immigration law and calls for a counter boycott targeting cities, politicians and businesses speaking out against Arizona.

"We have a lot of people that don't sit on sidelines and say OK," said Townsend. "If you're going to play that tactic, we can respond with a counter boycott."

CBS-5 News has also received a number of e-mails from viewers in favor of boycotting the boycotters.

<SNIP>

YOU ARE NOT ALONE ARIZONANS! THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ARE WITH YOU AND THE BOYCOTT BULLIES ARE GOING TO SUFFER. FOR A LOOOOONG TIME TO COME. WE'LL BRING LA, ALL OF THEM, TO THEIR KNEES. THEY'LL BE BEGGING TO BE PERCEIVED AS HAVING REVERSED THEIR POSITIONS BY THE TIME THE REST OF THIS COUNTRY IS DONE WITH THEM.

CRUSH THE AMERICA-HATING BASTARDS!

[Godot showed up]

The enemy is listed here:


http://www.buycottarizona.com/Boycott_the_Boycotters.html

SEIU - Service Employees International Union
United Food & Commercial Workers International Union
National Council of La Raza
Center for Community Change
League of United Latin American Citizens
National Puerto Rican Coalition
Leadership Conference on Civil & Human Rights

Oh, losing this group has got to hurt. 


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And I'm a NYer. I live in liberal hell. And I'm changing my travel plans to support AZ. Can you imagine how this is playing in TX? In Georgia? In Oklahoma? I'll bet many Texans are quietly crossing Austin off their own lists.

Oh man, we are going to show you lot who really has the power. Of course, Pierce is doing so in a literal sense.

I've been reading some crap in the DU about--"but...but...aren't these contracts? How dare they!". Yeah, they are, until the time the paragraphs that describe renegotiation periods become operative. THEN, AZ's power companies can say "yep, time to renegotiate. The price for you is $1 million/killowatt-hour. Just for you.

Some other DUpe posts are along the lines of "AZ's power companies will never agree to lose the money." Yo, stupids, there are plenty of buyers for electricity. AZ does not need LA as a buyer.

[IassaFTots]

The enemy is listed here:


http://www.buycottarizona.com/Boycott_the_Boycotters.html

Oh, losing this group has got to hurt. 


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And I'm a NYer. I live in liberal hell. And I'm changing my travel plans to support AZ. Can you imagine how this is playing in TX? In Georgia? In Oklahoma? I'll bet many Texans are quietly crossing Austin off their own lists.

Oh man, we are going to show you lot who really has the power. Of course, Pierce is doing so in a literal sense.

I've been reading some crap in the DU about--"but...but...aren't these contracts? How dare they!". Yeah, they are, until the time the paragraphs that describe renegotiation periods become operative. THEN, AZ's power companies can say "yep, time to renegotiate. The price for you is $1 million/killowatt-hour. Just for you.

Some other DUpe posts are along the lines of "AZ's power companies will never agree to lose the money." Yo, stupids, there are plenty of buyers for electricity. AZ does not need LA as a buyer.

I can't speak of all of Texas, but I heard on the radio yesterday here in Dallas, that some city council members wanted to boycott AZ.  (duh)  The mayor said that he thought Dallas had better things to do, like work on the budget.   

[Thor]

What I find pathetic is that there is all of this uproar about NOTHING!!! Arizona's new law merely mirrors Federal Law. Of course, since Arizona's law wasn't drawn in pictograms, nobody has bothered to read it because English isn't their primary language.

Why are we not boycotting Mexico because of their harsh illegal immigration  laws??

Why are we not prosecuting the Mayors of these so-called sanctuary cities" for NOT enforcing their state laws and Federal laws??

These people calling for a "boycott" of Arizona are only pointing out their own stupidity, IMO.

[debk]

I foresee a few brown/blackouts in LA come July, August on a reaaalllllllllly hot day.....

Can't imagine what will cause it though.....

[Thor]

I foresee a few brown/blackouts in LA come July, August on a reaaalllllllllly hot day.....

Can't imagine what will cause it though.....

LA already has a lot of them, so it won't be anything new.

[debk]

LA already has a lot of them, so it won't be anything new.

they may just become more frequent....

[NHSparky]

LA already has a lot of them, so it won't be anything new.

Ahem... 

[Thor]

Ahem... 

What ??? The truth hurts ?!?!?!? Dude, seriously, that's what I've heard over the last few summers is that LA has rolling brownouts due to their excessive power consumption. All they do is whine about  it. That was not meant as a reflection on your power company's ability to provide power. So, anyways, no thanks!!! Damned Sub Sailor........ always wanting to screw the guys......... 

[Godot showed up]

What I find pathetic is that there is all of this uproar about NOTHING!!! Arizona's new law merely mirrors Federal Law. Of course, since Arizona's law wasn't drawn in pictograms, nobody has bothered to read it because English isn't their primary language.

Why are we not boycotting Mexico because of their harsh illegal immigration  laws??

Why are we not prosecuting the Mayors of these so-called sanctuary cities" for NOT enforcing their state laws and Federal laws??

These people calling for a "boycott" of Arizona are only pointing out their own stupidity, IMO.

It isn't really about nothing, Thor. Arizona has provided a focal point for a great deal of frustration from the majority who want the border enforced. The near-dictatorship in the WH had this on its near-term agenda, and people knew it. AZ did us all a huge favor, really, and we owe the AZ legislature and Jan Brewer a lot for this. They stalled the Obama agenda on amnesty; put the libs on the political defensive. That their response was so ferocious only underscores how dire and close the danger of a general amnesty law was, and also that they feel frustrated to have lost the political offensive; and the high level of frustration confrims they were near to pulling something off---maybe some Memorial Day and Independence Day votes.  We'd be fools to imagine they wouldn't have blindsided us with this--look how they came back with Obamacare after we thought we were done with it. We shouldn't think for a second that Obama and his fellow travelers in Congress were focusing on cap and trade only as we were told ad nauseam in the press. This admin. loves to pull headfakes.

Isn't the battle for some tiny patch of geography, in a real war, a famous literary metaphor for futility? The hill or meadow that has no intrinsic value that we associate with value in peace time, such as gold in the ground or great pasture land. The truth though is that the rules change in war, and then suddenly, even if the patch of ground does'nt even carry with it a single tactical advantage--and they often do--war is still a zero sum business, sometimes, where geography is concerned. AZ is both literally geography and figurative political geography in this political war, and the fight is anything but futile.

[chitownchica]

I can't speak of all of Texas, but I heard on the radio yesterday here in Dallas, that some city council members wanted to boycott AZ.  (duh)  The mayor said that he thought Dallas had better things to do, like work on the budget.   

Probably an idea hatched by John Wiley Price and that guy who went to prison (black dude who wore the african hats).

[NHSparky]

What ??? The truth hurts ?!?!?!? Dude, seriously, that's what I've heard over the last few summers is that LA has rolling brownouts due to their excessive power consumption. All they do is whine about  it. That was not meant as a reflection on your power company's ability to provide power. So, anyways, no thanks!!! Damned Sub Sailor........ always wanting to screw the guys......... 

Well actually, you heard wrong.  There hasn't been a Stage 3 power alert (which would result in brownouts/rolling blackouts) since 2001.

Do transformers fail?  Do cars hit poles?  Every damned day--but it's not a consumption issue.  Matter of fact, load right now is nada compared to what it will be in August, and there'll still be about a 5000 MW reserve.

And finally, I didn't work for LADWP.  I worked for SCE, which covers the area around LA, with the exceptions of a few munis such as Anaheim, Riverside, etc...

[IassaFTots]

Probably an idea hatched by John Wiley Price and that guy who went to prison (black dude who wore the african hats).

which one??? 

 

Actually it was Steve Salazar..

[Thor]

Well actually, you heard wrong.  There hasn't been a Stage 3 power alert (which would result in brownouts/rolling blackouts) since 2001.

Do transformers fail?  Do cars hit poles?  Every damned day--but it's not a consumption issue.  Matter of fact, load right now is nada compared to what it will be in August, and there'll still be about a 5000 MW reserve.

And finally, I didn't work for LADWP.  I worked for SCE, which covers the area around LA, with the exceptions of a few munis such as Anaheim, Riverside, etc...

Damn, Sparky, give me a little credit. I realize that many things affect power distribution that are outside of the power company's influence. One of my Facebook friends was complaining last summer about the rolling brownouts and power outages. She lives in California.