Is having a baby like Stealing? So says Anglican Church

[The Village Idiot]

http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2010/05/having-babies-is-like-stealing.html

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Are babies stealing? According to news reports the Anglican Church thinks so. I'm not sure I understand how babies are stealing. I mean, they can't even drive the getaway car.

But the General Synod of the Anglican Church, according to news reports, issued a warning that current rates of population growth are "unsustainable and potentially out of step with church doctrine - including the eighth commandment "thou shall not steal.'"

So having babies is like stealing? Huh? So where does that put God who kinda' told us to "Go forth and multiply."

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[thundley4]

Whatever happened to : "Go forth and multiply'?

[The Village Idiot]

Under socialism it is like stealing.

Remember in ATLAS SHRUGGED the story of the 20th Century Motor Company?

It sounds like that.

[Thor]

Just another reason to disdain organized religion. It seems to me that NONE of the Churches truly follow the teachings of the Bible.

[DumbAss Tanker]

It's all too short of a trip from this line of thinking to culling the herd.

[jinxmchue]

Prediction: this will come to America via Jim Wallis and the rest of the "social justice" "Christians."

[debk]

I would like to point out that this is in AUSTRALIA.....and it is the Australian Anglican Church that is suggesting this....to stop a "government-funded baby bonus"....and protect the environment.

[MrsSmith]

Just another reason to disdain organized religion. It seems to me that NONE of the Churches truly follow the teachings of the Bible.

I think ours does pretty well.  I've never heard any teachings that were different than those in the Bible.  Certainly never anything as moronic as the OP.

[Tantal]

But the General Synod of the Anglican Church, according to news reports, issued a warning that current rates of population growth are "unsustainable and potentially out of step with church doctrine - including the eighth commandment "thou shall not steal.'"

I wonder if this idiot would be so bold as to make this statement outside of his local mosque?

[Duke Nukum]

I don't know about having a baby being like stealing but being a socialist/Marxist/liberal/Democrat is exactly like being a thief.

[vesta111]

Just another reason to disdain organized religion. It seems to me that NONE of the Churches truly follow the teachings of the Bible.

Now WHAT.????

First one must ask what is a Church today and what was the original purpose of a Christian Church.?

The first Christians for hundreds of years had no Bible to follow.   Jesus himself told his followers not to cast Pearls after Swine.

At first people gathered in caves and in secrete to pass on the teachings to avoid being tossed to the lions.    No Bible, just word of mouth.

It was the Christians that went forth and in private worked to heal the sick, to teach about Gods love, to give comfort to the dieing and risk their own lives to
minister to the Jews a new path to God.----All without a bible at that time.

These Christians at the time did not spend spend their money on huge awe inspiring edifices of rock and carved stone. They worked behind the scene to build a spiritual and loving comunity . They had no leader to interpret what God wants from us, no Pope at the time, just a Faith handed down from their ancestors.

Some how this Faith has survived 2000 years, not due to to the Preachers, not due to any organization or Church. 

Today those that make millions off the beliefs of those in need, the old the sick and those with guilty conscious have turned the faith into a money making machine, yet they are the first to proclaim hate toward the Jewish Pharisees that did the same.

Christianity survived because people [ some of them] were willing to risk death to teach.

Today the Teachers own multimillion complexes, have a fleet of expensive cars and  friken body guards.   I will bet that some of them are willing to except Muslim money as they feel that somehow those teachings are also valid.

Fitt NO. 15 over and done.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I would like to point out that this is in AUSTRALIA.....and it is the Australian Anglican Church that is suggesting this....to stop a "government-funded baby bonus"....and protect the environment.

Umm, OK, so...?  Are you saying the Aussie Anglicans have even more screws loose than the English ones? 

[Tantal]

Now that I think about it, white birth rates are on the decline. He must mean "minorities need to quit reproducing". Racist.

[MrsSmith]

Now WHAT.????

First one must ask what is a Church today and what was the original purpose of a Christian Church.?

The first Christians for hundreds of years had no Bible to follow.   Jesus himself told his followers not to cast Pearls after Swine.

At first people gathered in caves and in secrete to pass on the teachings to avoid being tossed to the lions.    No Bible, just word of mouth.

It was the Christians that went forth and in private worked to heal the sick, to teach about Gods love, to give comfort to the dieing and risk their own lives to
minister to the Jews a new path to God.----All without a bible at that time.

These Christians at the time did not spend spend their money on huge awe inspiring edifices of rock and carved stone. They worked behind the scene to build a spiritual and loving comunity . They had no leader to interpret what God wants from us, no Pope at the time, just a Faith handed down from their ancestors.

Some how this Faith has survived 2000 years, not due to to the Preachers, not due to any organization or Church. 

Today those that make millions off the beliefs of those in need, the old the sick and those with guilty conscious have turned the faith into a money making machine, yet they are the first to proclaim hate toward the Jewish Pharisees that did the same.

Christianity survived because people [ some of them] were willing to risk death to teach.

Today the Teachers own multimillion complexes, have a fleet of expensive cars and  friken body guards.   I will bet that some of them are willing to except Muslim money as they feel that somehow those teachings are also valid.

Fitt NO. 15 over and done.

The first Christians WROTE the New Testament...but they did already have the Old Testament history and prophecy.  The faith survived (survives today) not due to preacher or organization, but due to the continuing work of Christ.   However, the spreading of the Word is most certainly done through organizations, and has always been done through them.  Missionaries require some sort of support...have always required some support, even in Paul's day, when the churches helped support his work.

There are Mega-Churches that may be more money-making machines than anything else, but there are thousands and thousands of churches like the ones I've attended for the last 8 years that work to reach the unsaved in the local area, support food pantries and crisis pregnancy centers, pay the preacher and staff a minimal salary, send money to missions, donate to crisis teams, loan the church buildings out as shelters in times of disaster, etc. etc.  The organized church does far more good than many people recognize.  Without them, everyone would grow up completely ignorant of basic Christian beliefs and responsibilities...as evidenced by the overwhelming ignorance of many posters on even conservative sites.

[vesta111]

The first Christians WROTE the New Testament...but they did already have the Old Testament history and prophecy.  The faith survived (survives today) not due to preacher or organization, but due to the continuing work of Christ.   However, the spreading of the Word is most certainly done through organizations, and has always been done through them.  Missionaries require some sort of support...have always required some support, even in Paul's day, when the churches helped support his work.

There are Mega-Churches that may be more money-making machines than anything else, but there are thousands and thousands of churches like the ones I've attended for the last 8 years that work to reach the unsaved in the local area, support food pantries and crisis pregnancy centers, pay the preacher and staff a minimal salary, send money to missions, donate to crisis teams, loan the church buildings out as shelters in times of disaster, etc. etc.  The organized church does far more good than many people recognize.  Without them, everyone would grow up completely ignorant of basic Christian beliefs and responsibilities...as evidenced by the overwhelming ignorance of many posters on even conservative sites.

You said---

The organized church does far more good than many people recognize.  Without them, everyone would grow up completely ignorant of basic Christian beliefs and responsibilities...as evidenced by the overwhelming ignorance of many posters on even conservative sites.

I say---

 All over the country there are small groups that form their own Congregations and cannot afford to support a Pastor and his family.  These people and their faith are the back bone of Christianity.  These people are not Social Workers, their calling is to pass on their faith when and where they have a chance.

As Jesus told Mary M.   "There will always be the poor among us".  It was Mary M. who wanted to sell the precious oil that Jesus used on himself to help the poor.

True that the educated wrote the Bible, but for the 99% who could not read nor write, they had to depend on those that could to read it as it was written.

A Christian serves by example in their own lives, the problems of the world are not something to worry about, saving souls and bring people to God is the their purpose, not social work.
 

[MrsSmith]

You said---

The organized church does far more good than many people recognize.  Without them, everyone would grow up completely ignorant of basic Christian beliefs and responsibilities...as evidenced by the overwhelming ignorance of many posters on even conservative sites.

I say---

 All over the country there are small groups that form their own Congregations and cannot afford to support a Pastor and his family.  These people and their faith are the back bone of Christianity.  These people are not Social Workers, their calling is to pass on their faith when and where they have a chance.

As Jesus told Mary M.   "There will always be the poor among us".  It was Mary M. who wanted to sell the precious oil that Jesus used on himself to help the poor.

True that the educated wrote the Bible, but for the 99% who could not read nor write, they had to depend on those that could to read it as it was written.

A Christian serves by example in their own lives, the problems of the world are not something to worry about, saving souls and bring people to God is the their purpose, not social work.
 

And yet, if the organized church gave up their "social work," who would assist women in choosing not to murder their children?  Who would assist people in adoptions...at little or no cost to them? 

Who would run and stock food pantries?  Who would run homeless shelters?  Who would send work crews to disaster areas to do clean up and home repair? 

Who would send missionary crews to Reservations and poor countries to build and repair homes, run churches and Bible school classes, build and run orphanages and schools, to teach about disease and drill wells for clean water? 

Who would have started all the schools that have since moved left?  Who would have begun and built all the hospitals?  (In point of fact, a large percentage of our successful hospitals today are still run by the organized church...mine is Catholic-owned.) 

The first group on hand to help in Mississippi after Katrina was Franklin Graham's organized church...followed quickly by the Salvation Army and the Southern Baptist Disaster Relief.  They beat FEMA by days, even weeks in some areas!!  8 Days of Hope ran work crews to Katrina and flood areas for months.

Despite the attempt of leftists to force taxation upon the country in order to take over the work of the organized church, the fact is that the church still does an immense amount of the work needed in this country...and has a strong influence on the prosperity of our country.  The organized church built this country.