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Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« on: April 27, 2010, 05:49:45 PM »
Idiots think toys make kids fat

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14968786?source=most_viewed&nclick_check=1

By a 3-2 vote, Santa Clara County supervisors today approved the nation's first childhood obesity ordinance targeting toy giveaways with fast-food meals.

The ordinance would prohibit restaurants from giving away toys with kids' meals that are high in fat, sugar and calories.

The ban's reach will be very limited. It will only affect restaurants in the unincorporated areas of Santa Clara County such as San Martin.

Supervisors Ken Yeager, Liz Kniss and Dave Cortese voted for the ordinance. Supervisors Don Gage and George Shirakawa opposed it.

The ordinance will return to the board May 11 for a final vote. It will take effect 90 days after that, but during that time restaurants will have the chance to offer alternatives to the ordinance. If the board does not accept any of the alternatives, the law will begin at the end of the 90 days

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2010, 05:56:55 PM »
Nanny says no toys for you.
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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2010, 06:05:33 PM »
Start throwing in a free candy bar.

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2010, 06:11:38 PM »
Start throwing in a free candy bar.



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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 06:41:56 PM »
I would have thought that collectors of those crappy toys accounted for more sales than kids that really wanted them.

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 06:58:54 PM »
When are people going to just say NO! to crap like this and tell the "supervisors" if they want to come stand at the drive-thru windows and snatch toys out of kids' hands, then bring it on?

Just because a law is "passed" doesn't mean it can be enforced.  Just say NO!

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 07:16:46 PM »
I'd have to see the actual text of the law....  But just charge 1 cent for the toys.

Or...  just tell them to go pound sand.
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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 07:41:04 PM »
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The ban's reach will be very limited. It will only affect restaurants in the unincorporated areas of Santa Clara County such as San Martin, Stanford University, Cambrian and Burbank.

So what is the point of this?  Most of Santa Clara County is incorporated, so this is going to have minimal, if any effect, on anything, let alone childhood obesity rates.

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2010, 12:27:18 AM »
My youngest would throw a fit she goes for the toys not the food
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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2010, 07:00:06 AM »
What about cereals that have toys inside or worse, those that involve mail-in offers that involve saving box tops?

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2010, 07:26:13 AM »
My youngest would throw a fit she goes for the toys not the food

throw in a couple of mini-hershey bars, instead

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2010, 08:50:07 AM »
throw in a couple of mini-hershey bars, instead
 

Just who the Hell are these people that think they can dictate to Adults what to feed their kids.?

Next step, 4-5 Muslims on town council and I cannot now buy Bacon or any Pork product in local stores.  Walmart can no longer sell sleeveless T's for woman.  Big ad campanes for sexier, cover up woman, let the men use their imagination.?

When people decide what foods restaurants can sell and what is included in the meal, then grocery stores are the next target.

Most of us will become criminals for buying a pound of bacon on the black market, the culture of Pig picking will now go underground.  Culture-----You raise a child as you wish, religion, clothing and food.

Peta will join in, the sale of turkeys at Thanksgiving, the tradition of Lamb and Ham at Easter or Passover ---  gone.

It is mean and out right nasty to dictate what a private business can sell.   Millions of senior citizens cannot eat a huge burger at a take out place.  They order a kids meal, save the toy and place them in the grandkids stockings at Xmas.

Interesting that we a country of LAWS can have to adhere to a minority of crackpots to make these LAWS.





   

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2010, 09:08:09 AM »
Really, you think Santa Clara would have more important things to worry about.


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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2010, 09:22:47 AM »
Vesta's right....as this is a slippery slope and we, as consumers, are standing at the top.

Just because I voted for a county commissioner, state rep, or US rep or senator, I didn't agree to give up my free will and allow them to decide how I should eat, what I should eat, and what I should feed my kids!

When my kids were little, they loved Happy Meals. They loved the toys even more. Chicken McNuggets, fries (that mom helped eat) and a small Sprite. They didn't come home and eat another meal. The Happy Meal was their meal...not a snack! They were full after a Happy Meal.

When a parent keeps handing food to a child, the child will eat it, particularly if they see the parent eating.

Personally, I think Home Ec needs to be put back in the school curriculum in middle school and be mandatory like it was when I was a kid, only make it mandatory for both girls and boys. Teach these kids how to cook and what is healthy, and how to feed themselves something that they made themselves rather than always getting takeout. Learn the food pyramid (right after it's changed to making chocolate the base  :-) ) and how to mix the different foods so that not only is it healthy eating, but that the plated food is pleasing to the eye, nose and palate. There is nothing "wrong" with any one food type as long as it is eaten in moderation.
Just hand over the chocolate...back away slowly...far away....and you won't get hurt....

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2010, 09:30:18 AM »
Why not reward the kids for healthy choices,instead of punishing the bad decisions. Seems Bass Ackwards, to me. :hammer:   Or better yet, leave well enough alone.
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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2010, 09:52:47 AM »
Really, you think Santa Clara would have more important things to worry about.


What with all the damn vampires......









Vampires?  In Santa Clara?  Where are they?  Are they the sexy type, or the scary type?

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2010, 09:58:42 AM »
Vampires?  In Santa Clara?  Where are they?  Are they the sexy type, or the scary type?

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2010, 09:59:04 AM »
Why not reward the kids for healthy choices,instead of punishing the bad decisions. Seems Bass Ackwards, to me. :hammer:   Or better yet, leave well enough alone.

Say what Tiny1, who rewards a child for going hungry because their parents present them with Pork chops, mashed potatoes and a vegie or salad.  Is all this fat and carobs good for the kid, would you take away the chops and potatoes from the kid and feed them just the salad ???   Do we expect a young child to know what is good or bad for them to eat

Kids do not buy , cook or decide the family menu.   They sit at the table and eat what is given to them.  In a poor family the Ra men with frozen peas and perhaps another veg is the evening  meal.

For some kids going to a burger joint is heaven on earth.  The little toy they get is just a free- -be that reminds them of the visit.

Humans have a set basis on their food needs.   We found this out in Nan when the hospitalized children could not survive on our diets.  They were allergic to lactose and the carton of milk they drank made them deathly ill.  

 

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2010, 10:02:56 AM »
Amazing, 3 people dictate to millions.
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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2010, 10:15:07 AM »
Why not reward the kids for healthy choices,instead of punishing the bad decisions. Seems Bass Ackwards, to me. :hammer:   Or better yet, leave well enough alone.

It isn't government's place to punish or reward any kind of legal behavior.  It's government's place to get the hell out of our lives.

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2010, 10:21:57 AM »
Say what Tiny1, who rewards a child for going hungry because their parents present them with Pork chops, mashed potatoes and a vegie or salad.  Is all this fat and carobs good for the kid, would you take away the chops and potatoes from the kid and feed them just the salad ???   Do we expect a young child to know what is good or bad for them to eat

Kids do not buy , cook or decide the family menu.   They sit at the table and eat what is given to them.  In a poor family the Ra men with frozen peas and perhaps another veg is the evening  meal.

For some kids going to a burger joint is heaven on earth.  The little toy they get is just a free- -be that reminds them of the visit.

Humans have a set basis on their food needs.   We found this out in Nan when the hospitalized children could not survive on our diets.  They were allergic to lactose and the carton of milk they drank made them deathly ill.  

 

Respectfully, not in my home.  We asked our kids what they wanted to eat.  I taught them how to eat properly,from the beginning.  My youngest, to this day,will not eat McDonalds.  I am not a wealthy person,and never have been.  We have done the Ramen and Bologna sandwich thing to death.  But, instead of my kids paying the price, I opened up the ground and grew healthy food.  I still do it today,and only one 22 year old at home.  I fished to bring them protein, and hunted small game,also.  If you want to eat well,you can.  I pick wild blackberries and make a fabulous cobbler.  Cheap.
I don't believe that a pork chop, mashed potatoes and a veg are bad food.  As a matter of fact, I think we are too concerned about what the kids eat, and not enough about the level of physical activity.
When I was young, (when the Earth was new),we ate Fat back, fried squash, chicken fried steak with gravy, Pancakes with syrup, bacon, and fried eggs,etc and we were in way better shape than the kids today.
And maybe, if we trained our kids to cook, and plan their own meals,they would be healthier. I don't know about where you live, but in rural NC,our 12 year olds can out cook my Mom.
While I appreciate your opinion, I must say that we have failed at our responsibility to make our children self-sufficient.
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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2010, 10:58:26 AM »
It isn't government's place to punish or reward any kind of legal behavior.  It's government's place to get the hell out of our lives.
I am not talking about the Gooberment.  I am talking about the parents.  That's whose responsibility it is.  The idiots in Washington can barely lead their own lives responsibly.
To expand on my point, The problem exists that our kids are fat.  Why?  Mickie Ds has been around since I was a kid, and we were much healthier than the kids, today. Why?
Because, instead of handing our kids a Game Boy, our folks handed us a baseball and bat.  Instead of a lawn tractor, we push mowed the lawn with a non power spinning blade mower.  We helped in the garden, washed the car with a rag and a hose,  shoveled snow with a shovel, not a snow blower.  We rode bicycles, not four wheelers.
Yes,you are correct, Washington needs to worry about other things and get out of our lives.  That does not change the fact that WE are responsible for the condition our kids are in.  I thought we were the side that is all about personal responsibility.
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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2010, 11:06:52 AM »
I am not talking about the Gooberment.  I am talking about the parents.  That's whose responsibility it is.  The idiots in Washington can barely lead their own lives responsibly.
To expand on my point, The problem exists that our kids are fat.  Why?  Mickie Ds has been around since I was a kid, and we were much healthier than the kids, today. Why?
Because, instead of handing our kids a Game Boy, our folks handed us a baseball and bat.  Instead of a lawn tractor, we push mowed the lawn with a non power spinning blade mower.  We helped in the garden, washed the car with a rag and a hose,  shoveled snow with a shovel, not a snow blower.  We rode bicycles, not four wheelers.
Yes,you are correct, Washington needs to worry about other things and get out of our lives.  That does not change the fact that WE are responsible for the condition our kids are in.  I thought we were the side that is all about personal responsibility.

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Re: Santa Clara CA bans toys in fast food (Happy Meals)
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2010, 11:09:50 AM »
Once, when I was a kid, we lived in a house with only one bathroom.


Me Too!  And one phone.  And one TV.  And one Mom who controlled usage on all of em. 
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2010, 11:10:53 AM »

Me Too!  And one phone.  And one TV.  And one Mom who controlled usage on all of em. 

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