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School Shootings LTTE; Real Life DU'er or Troll?
« on: January 01, 2010, 09:09:14 AM »
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I AM a math teacher at Brockton High School, the site of a school shooting earlier this month.

Current school security procedures lock down school populations in the event of armed assault. Some advocate abandoning this practice as it holds everyone in place, allowing a shooter easily to find victims.

An alternative to lockdown is immediate exodus via announcement. Although this removes potential hostages and makes it nearly impossible for the shooter to acquire preselected targets, it unfairly rewards resourceful children who move to safety off-site more shrewdly and efficiently than others.

Schools should level playing fields, not intrinsically reward those more resourceful. A level barrel is fair to all fish.

Some propose overturning laws that made schools gun-free zones even for teachers who may be licensed to securely carry concealed firearms elsewhere. They argue that barring licensed-carry only ensures a defenseless, target-rich environment.

But as a progressive, I would sooner lay my child to rest than succumb to the belief that the use of a gun for self-defense is somehow not in itself a gun crime.

DOUG VAN GORDER
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http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2009/12/28/guns_teachers_and_self_defense/

When I read the comment about leveling the barrel jaw-dropping incredulity is all the response I could muster but then it seemed so ridiculous I thought maybe it was someone tweaking the-powers-that-be with a little argumentum ad absurdum.

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Re: School Shootings LTTE; Real Life DU'er or Troll?
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2010, 09:18:44 AM »
He's a special kind of stupid. I'll never understand that kind of thinking.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2010, 09:24:07 AM »
And you wonder why I hate Massholes.
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2010, 09:47:14 AM »
Sounds like satire to me.
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2010, 09:48:09 AM »
Sounds like satire to me.

Sadly, it's not.  I've run into people like this in Mass, and they've crept up into NH (mostly Portsmouth).
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2010, 10:12:37 AM »
I liked this reply.

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Why not just go back to segregated schools...

Progressive Schools: with candles and incense, everthing nice and gun free, no nasty "grading", lots of social engineering, zero tolerance everything. (15% of students, 75 % of budget).

Conservative schools: Respect, grades, push to excel, rifle teams, Pledge of Allegiance, standardized testing, desks in straight rows, "Christmas" Break. (85% of students, 25% of budget)

Results: Progressive school nice warm fuzzy experience, Conservative school preparation for life and chance at a future.

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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2010, 10:20:26 AM »
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But as a progressive, I would sooner lay my child to rest than succumb to the belief that the use of a gun for self-defense is somehow not in itself a gun crime.

Can anyone even begin to imagine the dark and evil soul that could write such a thing.
It goes beyond just being stupid..it is a cultist obsession from Satan.

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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2010, 10:33:14 AM »
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...Current school security procedures lock down school populations in the event of armed assault. Some advocate abandoning this practice as it holds everyone in place, allowing a shooter easily to find victims.

An alternative to lockdown is immediate exodus via announcement. Although this removes potential hostages and makes it nearly impossible for the shooter to acquire preselected targets, it unfairly rewards resourceful children who move to safety off-site more shrewdly and efficiently than others...

I love how this DUmbass completely misses the primary reason why his 'immediate exodus' idea is a (capital letters please) BAD IDEA.  Provide a crowd of children for the little budding serial killer to blend in with, and you have a ready-made means for the little thug to escape the scene and evade arrest, prosecution, and introduction to 'Bubba' and the "pecking order" in prison.

Oh, if only Lord Ø wasn't so distracted dealing with the two wars BOOOOOOOOsh left for him, this horrible BOOOOOOOOOOOsh economy, and how BOOOOOOOOOOOOsh made it so that nobody but the rich in America can get health care, then maybe he'd be a little further along on his brilliant plan to post skittle-shitting unicorns at the entrance to every school in America to ward off the evil guns that may try to get in and the misguided cherubs those guns bring with them, then maybe this complete idiot's proposed policy changes might be feasable...   :bawl:
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Re: School Shootings LTTE; Real Life DU'er or Troll?
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2010, 10:48:23 AM »
If that is real and I had a child in that school I would be at the very next school board meeting demanding an immediate resignation, retirement or outright firing of this 'teacher'.

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Re: School Shootings LTTE; Real Life DU'er or Troll?
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2010, 10:53:44 AM »
If this is not scarsism it is without a doupt the most assinine thing I have ever herd.
 If this J arse has a child I pitty them. If this guy is real I want to meet him. He needs a chokin!
 
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Re: School Shootings LTTE; Real Life DU'er or Troll?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2010, 11:08:23 AM »
I still think it's satire - the comment is too perfect - but if I'm wrong, our decision to homeschool looks that much better.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: School Shootings LTTE; Real Life DU'er or Troll?
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2010, 11:09:24 AM »
I'm having a hard time taking it as real.

I think what we have here is a frustrated crypto-conservative mocking what his superiors have told him.

Of course, I could find a legitimate counter-argument for immediate exodus in that it sends children scattered out into an unsupervised surrounding urban environment under conditions of duress and fear. More than one family will be panicked when little Susie or Johnnie hasn't come home after a reported shooting, the sun is beginning to set and the last time anyone saw them was when the principle told them to run for their lives.
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Re: School Shootings LTTE; Real Life DU'er or Troll?
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2010, 11:15:21 AM »
A mass exodus approach might minimize a shooter's opportunity for targets. It would also make figuring out how many are still inside very difficult, by scattering students, teachers and admins unpredictably.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2010, 11:17:56 AM »
A mass exodus approach might minimize a shooter's opportunity for targets. It would also make figuring out how many are still inside very difficult, by scattering students, teachers and admins unpredictably.

But, that mass exodus would put all the students into the hallways , making it easier to hit targets by shooting into the group.  Some would likely be injured or killed by trampling also. 

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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2010, 11:21:19 AM »
Did I use the word, "solution"?
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: School Shootings LTTE; Real Life DU'er or Troll?
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2010, 10:33:47 PM »
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But as a progressive, I would sooner lay my child to rest than succumb to the belief that the use of a gun for self-defense is somehow not in itself a gun crime.

There is something wrong with this fool. I do not have any children but I have 2 nieces, a nephew and a great nephew that I would give up my life to protect if it came down to it.

This waste of flesh deserves to have his bloodline end.  :banghead:
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2010, 10:38:20 PM »
I still think it's satire - the comment is too perfect - but if I'm wrong, our decision to homeschool looks that much better.

I too think it is satire.

Very good satire.
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2010, 10:43:17 PM »
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Schools should level playing fields, not intrinsically reward those more resourceful. A level barrel is fair to all fish.

I vote satire, but in the Swiftean vein.

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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2010, 08:51:29 AM »
I too think it is satire.

Very good satire.

On the other hand, going back to the late 1950's I heard words come out of my Aunts mouth that were very close to his .

  In her second year at UNH she came home ranting that parents should be prepared to kill themselves and their children if  the Communists took over.  BETTER DEAD THEN RED she claimed.

And to top it off, this was in the days before Dr. Leary, Pot, or the Pill.

All I could get out of the good teachers post is that it is better to have mass pandemonium then an orderly retreat from danger.  Teach the children they need to run at the first sign of danger, no drills to teach the kids to barricade the classroom doors and get under their desk, no details on where to meet up with others as they have in a fire drill. 

This crazy idea that the people we intrust our children to should not use any and every devise they can to protect their charges is rather odd.

 My kids had the NUNS from Hell as teachers and for all I knew they carried cattle prods under those robes, whats a gun compared to that ? These Evil NUNS would have given their lives to protect their students, in one really horrific fire in NY back in the 1970's they threw children out windows of burning school while all ablaze themselves.

The parents and the teachers were reading from the same book. Us parents never complained about how our kids were treated by the NUNS, we knew darn well this was part of their education also, to conform in some situations, no acting out, those tears just don't work.

Any kid that perchance decided to shoot up their school, would be dealt with by the NUNS before the police ever got there.   The kids had a good healthy fear of their teachers and their parents.

The days of taking Johnnie to the wood shed are over, what does Johnnie have to fear now.?

While Little Johnny's parents are busy making Meths in the kitchen, Johnnie is free to move about at a very early age.  Little Johnnie can read and knows the law, good Grief, a teacher has to spend hours a day with the little monster and he has the law on his side.

To get an insiders look at what teachers have to handle everyday, drive a school bus in down town Detroit.    Darn you will want a gun under your arm, a crash helmet and a suit of mail.

This dude is unfortunately one who will be found in some alley one day, he must be a substitute teacher that does not know the charactor of the students.    Has no connection to them or give a darn either way.   He has never been jacked up by a home grown gang to alter test scores, never had to fear the children that will destroy his life.--He has no fear  some 12 year old male or female will call the police on him for giving them a low mark on their grade's children claim sexual assult, they want an A+ or else.   

They say one can take a horse to water but cannot force them to drink.     :BS:

Take a kid to knowledge yet keep it just out of their reach and after awhile these kids will demand to be allowed to drink from the well of knowledge, fight each other to get one up on all their Buddy's.

Who the heck wants anything to do with kids today that have no control over them.? 

Case in point, a man had a child for a neighbor who was called a special child.   The boy was 16 and was taught at home.    One night when the mans Mother was visiting she while in the shower saw this face in the window.   She kept her cool and her son ran out and caught the neighbors son in the act of self gratification.     

The police arrived and took the child off to jail.     Now for the good stuff.

The boys family claim that the boy was walking through the back yard and saw the woman  in full view taking a shower. The boy who has physical problems had an urgent urge to pee so he did so and was tackled to the ground and inslaved until the police got there.

 Not the kids fault a woman of any age decides to get bare Ass naked and call his attention to it, he has a bladder problem, not his fault,  he has problems brought about by some old lady that was taking a shower.     Her fault for not blocking the windows that lead out to the forrest, she should have known that people would be tramping on the property late at night and become curious.

I have gone far afield with this random apologies to those that have read this far.

Bottom line is to arm all teachers and let the kids know their teachers will take you out if you give them reason.















             

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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2010, 01:42:57 AM »
Can anyone even begin to imagine the dark and evil soul that could write such a thing.
It goes beyond just being stupid..it is a cultist obsession from Satan.

Either that or incredible ****ing stupidity. Someone that mentally deficient can still breathe? It breaks all the laws of science.
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2010, 04:08:16 PM »
Sadly, it's not.  I've run into people like this in Mass, and they've crept slithered up into NH (mostly Portsmouth).

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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2010, 04:25:41 PM »
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Schools should level playing fields, not intrinsically reward those more resourceful. A level barrel is fair to all fish.

Pure Socialist dogma here.

Why should we punish the kids who get F's and reward the kids that get A's.

Let's just give them all a C and everyone will be happy!
 

:whatever: What an effin MORON!!!


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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2010, 04:36:50 PM »
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A level barrel is fair to all fish.

And an empty one is equally fair--they all end up equally dead.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2010, 04:45:19 PM »
Pure Socialist dogma here.

Why should we punish the kids who get F's and reward the kids that get A's.

Let's just give them all a C and everyone will be happy!
 

:whatever: What an effin MORON!!!




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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2010, 04:46:20 PM »
Why test them at all? Just give them the information for 13 years and then hand them a piece of paper saying they iz o-tey!

How would you like someone like that plotting an azimuth for your fire team...or adjusting elevation of your fire support?
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