The President Proposes to Make Community College Free for Responsible Students

[JohnnyReb]

I would assume these college athletes were getting a free education but that wasn't good enough for them, they had to branch out into tax refund fraud.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/college-athletes-ran-tax-refund-fraud-scheme-netted-dollar400k/ar-AA80BNT?ocid=TSHDHP

[Eupher]

I have to hand it to him -- Barry and his thugs are relentless.

GOP Congress is 100% correct. The multi-pronged effort here isn't to promote learning at all -- (1) it's to pander to the youngsters, thereby creating more Democrats; (2) it's another nail in the coffin vis a vis Cloward-Piven; (3) and most alarming, it gets the feds further entrenched in education, thereby dictating the textbooks and their content (leftist - even more than now), course criteria (revisionist history, anyone?), and lowering the bar even further than it is.

With so many illiterate college "graduates" it's not a stretch to see how much worse the problem will get.

[Mike220]

I thought we had something like this? I think it's called the GI Bill, or something like that.

Even though I'm working in a field where my college degree is useless, the fact I busted my ass to get then benefit, then busted my ass to graduate with a 3.2 gpa while working full time makes it all the more sweeter than if some fed program hands me two more years of high school. I won't even go into my thoughts on how most kids in college these days aren't even ready for college. Why the hell are there remedial classes in college?

[thundley4]

I have to hand it to him -- Barry and his thugs are relentless.

GOP Congress is 100% correct. The multi-pronged effort here isn't to promote learning at all -- (1) it's to pander to the youngsters, thereby creating more Democrats; (2) it's another nail in the coffin vis a vis Cloward-Piven; (3) and most alarming, it gets the feds further entrenched in education, thereby dictating the textbooks and their content (leftist - even more than now), course criteria (revisionist history, anyone?), and lowering the bar even further than it is.

With so many illiterate college "graduates" it's not a stretch to see how much worse the problem will get.

Another program that Barry could have easily rammed down our throats when had control of both houses of congress, but instead he waits until he can blame conservatives for not passing it.

[cmypay]

Having just spent the better part of a week meeting with the students we put on academic probation (below 2.0 for the semester, and below 2.0 GPA), the President's plan will not work the way he thinks it will. If we keep our academic standards what they are today, a whole bunch of students will flunk out by the end of their first year. If we lower the standards so that these students are making that 2.0, then we have a whole bunch of completely useless college degrees.

[SVPete]

Having just spent the better part of a week meeting with the students we put on academic probation (below 2.0 for the semester, and below 2.0 GPA), the President's plan will not work the way he thinks it will. If we keep our academic standards what they are today, a whole bunch of students will flunk out by the end of their first year. If we lower the standards so that these students are making that 2.0, then we have a whole bunch of completely useless college degrees.

What I bolded is part of BHO's plan. He's hoping to buy bunches of D voters. He intends for there to be multiple years of battles over standards that will be labelled "racist". And he intends for college degrees to become worthless, so everyone is "equal". We can't be having elites like the educated or the successful or the hard-working! Merit" is a racist concept!

[Fourwinds]

Had a friend get excited over this when the news broke this week. I had to remind him that while it might look good on paper, anything this devil in the Oval Office thinks is a good idea is bad for everyone in the long run.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I have to hand it to him -- Barry and his thugs are relentless.

GOP Congress is 100% correct. The multi-pronged effort here isn't to promote learning at all -- (1) it's to pander to the youngsters, thereby creating more Democrats; (2) it's another nail in the coffin vis a vis Cloward-Piven; (3) and most alarming, it gets the feds further entrenched in education, thereby dictating the textbooks and their content (leftist - even more than now), course criteria (revisionist history, anyone?), and lowering the bar even further than it is.

With so many illiterate college "graduates" it's not a stretch to see how much worse the problem will get.

There is one other part to it, which is the continuing war Dept. of Education and the taxpayer-supported schools have been indiscriminately conducting against all for-profit schools for the past ten years or so.  While there are some bad actors, the accreditation process usually weeds them out, and the public sector schools have absolutely no room whatsoever to throw stones about completion rates, quality of instruction, and employment rates in the field of study. 

[freedumb2003b]

Had a friend get excited over this when the news broke this week. I had to remind him that while it might look good on paper, anything this devil in the Oval Office thinks is a good idea is bad for everyone in the long run.

Programs to do this already exist. Tell your excited friend to get off his duff and look into them.

This is a pure sop to the tuition forgiveness group.

[JohnnyReb]

After everyone gets a college education, who's going to get their hands dirty and do the work?

I think more tech schools would be better.

[SVPete]

There is one other part to it, which is the continuing war Dept. of Education and the taxpayer-supported schools have been indiscriminately conducting against all for-profit schools for the past ten years or so.  While there are some bad actors, the accreditation process usually weeds them out, and the public sector schools have absolutely no room whatsoever to throw stones about completion rates, quality of instruction, and employment rates in the field of study.

There have been fly-by-nights and frauds. But good for-profits such as DeVry and ITT Technical (to name a very few) are lumped in with the frauds in one-size-fits-all condemnations. The agenda in this is to eliminate competitors of government universities and Ivy-League-grade elite private universities (and let those private universities that they could be next if they go off the PC Plantation).

[DumbAss Tanker]

...those private universities that they could be next if they go off the PC Plantation...

There's about as much chance of that happening as Hillary giving birth to another kid or the Muslim world turning Buddhist overnight, so I'd say they're pretty safe on that one.

[DLR Pyro]

After everyone gets a college education, who's going to get their hands dirty and do the work?

I think more tech schools would be better.

that's what illegal aliens are for.  To do the work Americans won't do.....

[thundley4]

that's what illegal aliens are for.  To do the work Americans won't do.....

Like voting for democrats.

[J P Sousa]

I have to hand it to him -- Barry and his thugs are relentless.

GOP Congress is 100% correct. The multi-pronged effort here isn't to promote learning at all -- (1) it's to pander to the youngsters, thereby creating more Democrats; (2) it's another nail in the coffin vis a vis Cloward-Piven; (3) and most alarming, it gets the feds further entrenched in education, thereby dictating the textbooks and their content (leftist - even more than now), course criteria (revisionist history, anyone?), and lowering the bar even further than it is.

With so many illiterate college "graduates" it's not a stretch to see how much worse the problem will get.

Most NYC High School Grads Need Remedial Help Before Entering CUNY Community Colleges 

They had to re-learn basic skills — reading, writing and math — first before they could begin college courses.
 

So it looks like the two year community colleges could become a "second high school" to learn what many did not learn in high school.   

Just another welfare program ?
Push them through to get a piece of paper that says they graduated ?
Sounds like it may become a "give them a trophy for participating."
 
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