primitives hating on the South again

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023617381

Oh my.

Don't decent and civilized people get tired of the primitives being this way?

coldmountain (191 posts)    Sat Sep 7, 2013, 01:13 PM

The South killed the safety net

"The South’s aversion both to taxes and to mandated government safety net structures had a long, and somewhat surprising, pedigree. In the late eighteenth century, popular radical writers such as Condorcet in France and Tom Paine in England had called for the creation of comprehensive social insurance systems based around universal pensions, child allowances, and education for all. Neither, however, managed to successfully alter prevailing political and moral doctrines. In France, after the frenzy of the revolutionary years the counterrevolution of the post-Napoleonic period put a halt to radical social experiments for decades. And in the United Kingdom, at least partially in response to the violence unleashed by revolutionaries in France, the early nineteenth century saw a tide of conservative reaction. Give money to the poor, the theory went, and you were encouraging indolence, dependency, and ultimately societal chaos. In 1834, after the publication of the Poor Law Report, “outdoor relief”—the giving of state moneys to the able-bodied poor in a non-workhouse context—was banned. For most of the rest of Queen Victoria’s near-seventy-year reign, “the great unwashed” were either left to find their own ways through terrain of hunger, homelessness, and disease, or were corralled into the sorts of ghastly workhouse settings made infamous by the writings of Charles Dickens.
 
In America, the South in particular took the Victorian lesson to heart, though to a lesser degree so too did the rest of the country. As did most of Europe. After all, Great Britain was the dominant power of the age, its economic prescriptions as hard to avoid as, say, the Washington consensus’s emphasis on opening up markets to international trade, privatizing public services, and deregulation a century and a half later. Coercive poor law politics, shaped around workhouses, poor houses, and other near-prison-like conditions for confining and attending to the subsistence needs of the poor was, as a consequence, the dominant response to poverty on both sides of the Atlantic throughout the middle decades of the nineteenth century."
 
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/07/why_dont_americans_want_a_social_safety_net/

Progressives around the world need to start boycotting the South and rewarding other regions that do the right things. Vacation somewhere else. Boycott southern based stores like Walmart and Dollar General. Buy a UAW built car instead of a non union JapanInc car built by non union workers. Reward Detroit and Toledo and not Kentucky.

No primitive responses yet, but I'm sure they're coming.

[GOBUCKS]

Give money to the poor, the theory went, and you were encouraging indolence, dependency, and ultimately societal chaos.

A theory in Britain two hundred years ago, it's been proven true by the War on Poverty.

[ChuckJ]

Bless their hearts. As a part of the south I invite the DUmmies to STFU and FOAD.

[Mr Mannn]

The article is not going nearly far enough.

It should say, "Good liberals and Democrats should LEAVE the South, and promise never to return until things change."

[wasp69]

Progressives around the world need to start boycotting the South and rewarding other regions that do the right things. Vacation somewhere else. Boycott southern based stores like Walmart and Dollar General. Buy a UAW built car instead of a non union JapanInc car built by non union workers. Reward Detroit and Toledo and not Kentucky.

I agree.  Get gone and stay gone.

[Linda]

The article is not going nearly far enough.

It should say, "Good liberals and Democrats should LEAVE the South, and promise never to return until things change."

I agree full completely.

[JohnnyReb]

The south is red state hell. Liberals should stay out.....you can't survive down south.....you'll die.....and if you don't die, well, we'll just have to shoot you.

[98ZJUSMC]

http://www.salon.com/2013...want_a_social_safety_net/


 

[Chris_]

Liberals killed the safety net by turning it into a hammock.

[Aristotelian]

A theory in Britain two hundred years ago, it's been proven true by the War on Poverty.

My first thought too - alas we've proved it to be true with our welfare state as well.

[JohnnyReb]

http://www.salon.com/2013...want_a_social_safety_net/


 

Article written by.....

Sasha Abramsky is a Nation magazine contributing writer, and a senior fellow at Demos. He is the author, most recently, of "Inside Obama’s Brain." He lives in Sacramento, California.

.....in the heart of a broke ass liberal state.

[franksolich]

A theory in Britain two hundred years ago, it's been proven true by the War on Poverty.

You know, I'm not finding anything wrong with that theory; it seems to be the case.

Give money to the poor, the theory went, and you were encouraging indolence, dependency, and ultimately societal chaos.

I'd sure like a primitive to explain where it's wrong.

[Skul]

Liberals killed the safety net by turning it into a hammock.

All the better to rob Peter, to pay Paul.
They will always get Paul's vote.
Easier to lay in the hammock, then to work in the paddock.

[zeitgeist]

The Solid South was solid Democrat before the Republicans took over with the Nixon / Reagan victories.  Really, who can forget George Wallace, Lester Maddox, Huey Long, Robert Byrd, Land Slide Lyndon et al. ?  Johnson's WOP, Planned Parenthood, and the Democrats under Obama have done more to destroy blacks families in America than the Klan could have ever hoped accomplish with its night riders, a cross, and some rope.  Essentially they destroyed the black family's sense of pride in accomplishment ensuring it would remain an underserved minority in perpetuity. The stats on black abortion rates are staggering compared to non blacks. They have been poorly served by the liberal education establishment and recent unemployment data shows they are at about double the rate of non white workers.  The Democrat Plantation is real and the DUmmies are to DUmp to understand it.  Detroit is the poster child for Democrats war on blacks, not the South. /rant off

[Linda]

The Solid South was solid Democrat before the Republicans took over with the Nixon / Reagan victories.  Really, who can forget George Wallace, Lester Maddox, Huey Long, Robert Byrd, Land Slide Lyndon et al. ?  Johnson's WOP, Planned Parenthood, and the Democrats under Obama have done more to destroy blacks families in America than the Klan could have ever hoped accomplish with its night riders, a cross, and some rope.  Essentially they destroyed the black family's sense of pride in accomplishment ensuring it would remain an underserved minority in perpetuity. The stats on black abortion rates are staggering compared to non blacks. They have been poorly served by the liberal education establishment and recent unemployment data shows they are at about double the rate of non white workers.  The Democrat Plantation is real and the DUmmies are to DUmp to understand it.  Detroit is the poster child for Democrats war on blacks, not the South. /rant off

You get a HI-5 for that rant...you said it very well.

[I_B_Perky]

The article is not going nearly far enough.

It should say, "Good liberals and Democrats should LEAVE the South USA, and promise never to return until things change. EVER!!!"

Fixed that for ya, Mr. Mannn!!!   

[Skul]

Fixed that for ya, Mr. Mannn!!!   

Nice fix.   

[67 Rover]

Reward Detroit and Toledo and not Kentucky.

I propose we solve two problems with one move.  Make President Bashar Assad mayor of Detroit.

[Karin]

Salon and Slate both seem to be going right off the rails.  One absurd article after another, it's like they're attention whores.  This one was weird; a whole bunch of historical background, then straight to a boycott of a lovely southern vacation in the middle of winter (we'll all supposed to troop to Detroit and Toledo).     Yeah, you go first, DUmmies.

What a bunch of DUmbasses.  And look at all your current begging threads, you ARE pathetic, dependent, indolent little toads. 

[Wineslob]

You know, I'm not finding anything wrong with that theory; it seems to be the case.

I'd sure like a primitive to explain where it's wrong.

The usual answer is: It just didn't work...............this time.

[GOP Congress]

http://www.salon.com/2013...want_a_social_safety_net/


 

This link should work...

http://www.salon.com/2013...want_a_social_safety_net/

[Ptarmigan]

Attacking the South is a past time at DU.

[hillneck]

Hey DUmmies, if that is the way you feel about the South.  Then stay out.  We don't want you here anyway.  When there are no DUmmies present, life is a whole lot happier.