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Yeah, like we didn't know the DUmpmonkiez would blame:

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2) Right-Wing Gun Culture
3) Racist Right Wing Gun Culture
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8. "American gangster" is racist code

And you have no idea what race these two kids are.


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9. What race is a gangster, Tempest?

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I've seen them in all colors including white, and several nationalities here in Southern California.

ETA given that trouble.smith doesn't have any information about the demographics of the perpetrators other than their gender and ages, how could the remark have been made with any kind of racial subtext? Their behavior certainly seems gang-like to me
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2012, 03:26:21 PM »
Sorry but I have been watching Sons of Anarchy and they are Gangster.   ::)  I can't believe the little THUGS were released to their parents.   :rant:






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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2012, 03:35:25 PM »
I couldn't believe it either.  That's a serious freaking crime.  I have no idea what color they are, they are dangerous individuals. 

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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 10:27:12 AM »
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 10:35:40 AM »
Sorry but I have been watching Sons of Anarchy and they are Gangster.   ::)  I can't believe the little THUGS were released to their parents.   :rant:

Released to their parents?   Sounds like the parents are the one's who need to go to jail. :mad:
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2012, 10:47:05 AM »
Released to their parents?   Sounds like the parents are the one's who need to go to jail. :mad:

If I had done something stupid enough to have the cops arrest me, I would have been begging them to keep me locked up, away from my father.....and that's the truth.
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2012, 10:58:59 AM »
Question of the day,  just what does one do when a child of 7 wants to rob you at gun point,   Little kid with a deadly weapon.?

Does it matter if the child is only 3 years old and finds a gun and is pointing it at you ????

WTF do you do ?????

Big Moral question and no time to ask the child any questions on where they got the gun or who gave it to them.

When and how do you as an adult know you life is in danger from a small child.   Perhaps when you see the weapon,  but WTF do you do now ????

Is the weapon loaded, will they shoot by accident or on purpose.    

Hell of a note that today our cops now have to head out to protect the citizens from the Adult criminals but now 7-8 year olds that are armed and dangerious.

So how would you handle a little kid with a gun trying to rob you at gun point ???

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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2012, 11:15:23 AM »
If I had done something stupid enough to have the cops arrest me, I would have been begging them to keep me locked up, away from my father.....and that's the truth.

Same with me, although it was my mom I was most afraid of.  But that's my point.  I doubt you would have tried to rob someone at 7 or let your little brother be there. I think this is a direct result of bad parenting.


 
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2012, 11:44:08 AM »
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Teens Ask for Smoke, Kill Woman When She Replies "Get a Job": Cops

Police say three teens, 13 and 14, charged in the fatal shooting of a western Pennsylvania woman targeted her after she told them to "get a job."

Police say three teens charged in the fatal shooting of a western Pennsylvania woman targeted her after she told them to "get a job" when she saw them trying to bum a cigarette off her boyfriend.

Beaver Falls police have charged 14-year-olds Todavia Cleckley and Marcus Velasquez and Kyle Goosby Jr., 13, with criminal homicide and other charges in Saturday's shooting of Kayla Peterson, 22. She was shot at about 3:30 p.m. that day and died in a Pittsburgh hospital two hours later.
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2012, 11:49:57 AM »
We're sounding like a third world country. 
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2012, 11:59:56 AM »
Question of the day,  just what does one do when a child of 7 wants to rob you at gun point,   Little kid with a deadly weapon.?

Does it matter if the child is only 3 years old and finds a gun and is pointing it at you ????

WTF do you do ?????

Big Moral question and no time to ask the child any questions on where they got the gun or who gave it to them.

When and how do you as an adult know you life is in danger from a small child.   Perhaps when you see the weapon,  but WTF do you do now ????

Is the weapon loaded, will they shoot by accident or on purpose.     

Hell of a note that today our cops now have to head out to protect the citizens from the Adult criminals but now 7-8 year olds that are armed and dangerious.

So how would you handle a little kid with a gun trying to rob you at gun point ???

Beat the living shit out of the little bastard!
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2012, 12:10:45 PM »
Beat the living shit out of the little bastard!

No Cats, one cannot beat up anyone standing 10 feet away with a weapon.    Now if the kids had baseball bats, perhaps you could take them away from them but when they have guns what do you do ???? 

Our biological instinct is to protect the young, we have the problem when the young threatens our lives.


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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2012, 12:43:02 PM »
"Hey, I watch TV and the movies!! The ONLY thugs and criminals I see are whites in hoodies and Republican Party donor capitalist pigs! That means they are more common in real life, so any reference to a non-white person HAS to be racist!" - Quote from the average DUmpmonkey...
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2012, 03:57:11 PM »
If I had done something stupid enough to have the cops arrest me, I would have been begging them to keep me locked up, away from my father.....and that's the truth.

As Dori says down from your little missive here, my mother would have gotten first crack at me (Thank God she didn't shoot handguns then!).  Then, when my father got home . . . :runaway: :panic: :o
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2012, 04:13:50 PM »
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Teens-Ask-for-Smoke-Kill-Woman-When-She-Replies-Get-a-Job-182999041.html?dr
 Beaver Falls police have charged 14-year-olds Todavia Cleckley and Marcus Velasquez and Kyle Goosby Jr., 13, with criminal homicide and other charges in Saturday's shooting of Kayla Peterson, 22. She was shot at about 3:30 p.m. that day and died in a Pittsburgh hospital two hours later.

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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2012, 05:06:11 PM »
'They were going to blow my brains out': Two boys, aged 7 and 11, 'hold woman at gunpoint demanding car and cell phone'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2245712/Amy-Garrett-Portland-woman-held-gunpoint-boys-aged-7-11-attempted-carjacking.html

The suspects are not Black, they are White as they came back when the victim was interviewed.

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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2012, 05:56:34 PM »
No Cats, one cannot beat up anyone standing 10 feet away with a weapon.    Now if the kids had baseball bats, perhaps you could take them away from them but when they have guns what do you do ???? 

Our biological instinct is to protect the young, we have the problem when the young threatens our lives.


Not true, Vesta, plenty of martial arts styles teach you how to deal with people who have weapons (even guns), including the more "dancier" ones like Capoeira (I used to study it when I was younger and much more agile), which was developed specifically for unarmed slaves in Brazil to fight against armed masters. It was disguised as a dance because they weren't allowed to practice self defense. While it's more evasion than disarming, avoiding bullets is a good thing.

I just started taking Kenpo (easier on my 53 year old joints...learned about it through P90X and was fascinated with the strike speed) which teaches how to disarm someone with a gun. My son has 3 black belts in Karate, Jiu Jitsu & Ninjitsu and every single one of them teaches how to disarm someone with a handgun, even when confronting more than one person.

As for the 3 year old, if you can't take a gun away from a toddler, you might as well just give it up. They aren't capable of the same kind of malice as someone older, doubt they even understand the concept.

Gun defense in Kenpo (I highly recommend it if you think it can't be done...there's a 70 year old woman in my class who's been taking it for about a year and she can kick my ass). 57 seconds against a much larger opponent...this is only one of the possible ways to defend yourself against someone with a gun:

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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2012, 09:15:21 AM »
That is disgusting that those kids are even walking the streets and then they come out like that?  Then the stupid public will be upset when that kid rightly gets his head blown off because of his criminal acts.  ::)






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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2012, 10:16:04 AM »
I wonder what the news media would have said if the kids had tried to rob someone that was armed and the result ended up being two dead kids. The cries for gun control would still be heard for months.
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2012, 10:26:40 AM »
But gun control only works with law abiding citizens, the criminals never abide by those laws. Someone should tell the gun control nuts that.
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2012, 11:17:29 AM »
But gun control only works with law abiding citizens, the criminals never abide by those laws. Someone should tell the gun control nuts that.

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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2012, 11:24:13 AM »
Guess we need to make a sign so they can read this first...
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2012, 08:56:43 PM »
No Cats, one cannot beat up anyone standing 10 feet away with a weapon.    Now if the kids had baseball bats, perhaps you could take them away from them but when they have guns what do you do ???? 

Our biological instinct is to protect the young, we have the problem when the young threatens our lives.



Vesta, if someone tried to carjack me (no matter their age) and even hinted that they had a gun... then they would have my gun in their face.
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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2012, 09:01:06 AM »
Vesta, if someone tried to carjack me (no matter their age) and even hinted that they had a gun... then they would have my gun in their face.

Evil, ever hear of Buck Fever ?    What we call it up North East.

Take your 14 year old son or daughter to weeks of gun safety courses, then to learn the regulations on the laws.
All kinds of practicing in the summer, then comes fall.    Dear Season.

Not just kids but full grown adults on first hunt sometimes get this problem.   They can get a perfect bead on a deer and as they have  never hunted or killed anything they instead of taking the shot begin to shake, they either cannot shoot or if they do the bullet goes way off target.

Takes experience to hunt and get a clean kill.    I have heard of police that served 20+ years that never even had to draw their weapon against anything much less a human.

For us who practice at the range or even hunt, the responsibility that comes with the ability to end the life even in self defence is a big leap of the mind.

Could I shoot a charging bear, you betcha in a heart beat, Could I shoot an 11 year old child regardless of what kind of weapon they had,  unless the child had a flame thrower I doubt it.

One has to know when to hold and when to fold in life.   

Problem may be that we are raising kids to be non violent to the point the bully's are taking over.  Even some Court judges are getting weird, going back to the dark ages that if a woman who is raped just calmly submitted rather then fight back and take a chance and a good one at that that the rapist will become enraged and kill them, they the surviving rape victim had consented some how to the rape. Don't fight back against a bully because if you do you will get punished more then the Bully.  Get raped is as bad, fight and be injured more or killed, do not fight---well perhaps you asked for it.

Not just females that are maturing early today boys as young as 10 can and do on occasion rape and murder.

Not easy for females today ---or perhaps all too easy with Abortion becoming the norm, to those females whose brains are conditioned and hard wired to have the first instinct to protect the young even at cost to our own life.

First thing I was taught was to confirm the target one shoots at, is it a deer or another hunter ?   In case of threat, is this a real threat or one that can be handled with no violence.

When anyone has the ability to end life by a knee jerk decision, they should not be around weapons that they can use to do so.  Sure a Victim can make the wrong decision and end up dead, but that is to my mind better of living another 60 years knowing you ended the life of someone that was of no threat to you.

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Re: Boys, 7 and 11, attempt robbery with gun--- DU, "THAT's RACIST!!!"
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2012, 09:32:30 AM »
Evil, ever hear of Buck Fever ?    What we call it up North East.

Take your 14 year old son or daughter to weeks of gun safety courses, then to learn the regulations on the laws.
All kinds of practicing in the summer, then comes fall.    Dear Season.

Not just kids but full grown adults on first hunt sometimes get this problem.   They can get a perfect bead on a deer and as they have  never hunted or killed anything they instead of taking the shot begin to shake, they either cannot shoot or if they do the bullet goes way off target.

Takes experience to hunt and get a clean kill.    I have heard of police that served 20+ years that never even had to draw their weapon against anything much less a human.

For us who practice at the range or even hunt, the responsibility that comes with the ability to end the life even in self defence is a big leap of the mind.

Could I shoot a charging bear, you betcha in a heart beat, Could I shoot an 11 year old child regardless of what kind of weapon they had,  unless the child had a flame thrower I doubt it.

One has to know when to hold and when to fold in life.   

Problem may be that we are raising kids to be non violent to the point the bully's are taking over.  Even some Court judges are getting weird, going back to the dark ages that if a woman who is raped just calmly submitted rather then fight back and take a chance and a good one at that that the rapist will become enraged and kill them, they the surviving rape victim had consented some how to the rape. Don't fight back against a bully because if you do you will get punished more then the Bully.  Get raped is as bad, fight and be injured more or killed, do not fight---well perhaps you asked for it.

Not just females that are maturing early today boys as young as 10 can and do on occasion rape and murder.

Not easy for females today ---or perhaps all too easy with Abortion becoming the norm, to those females whose brains are conditioned and hard wired to have the first instinct to protect the young even at cost to our own life.

First thing I was taught was to confirm the target one shoots at, is it a deer or another hunter ?   In case of threat, is this a real threat or one that can be handled with no violence.

When anyone has the ability to end life by a knee jerk decision, they should not be around weapons that they can use to do so.  Sure a Victim can make the wrong decision and end up dead, but that is to my mind better of living another 60 years knowing you ended the life of someone that was of no threat to you.

Vesta, I have to BS you for that.  'Buck fever' is a Hell of a lot different than survival, especially when there's a handgun shoved into your face.  It's a classic 'me or them' situation.  EC would choose herself to live.  I'm pretty sure that you would, too.  I know damned will I would/will.
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