Noisome is termed out in 2028. This podcast looks to be a self-normalization effort with an eye on a potential 2028 run for President.
I'd vote for a Snoopy-Woodstock ticket before voting Noisome-______, but this maneuver signify Noisome's recognition that the crazies running the Dem Party are playing poorly with normal people. If that is the case, he is trying to build an I am not a crazy image, in despite of all the crazy he's been doing the past 6 years in Sacto and as Mayor of SF before that.