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Hard to remember that far back but I do remember her comments about that when she was running for VP had some of us really surprised--as in Russia was our only foreign neighbor forgeting about Canada at her door step.--

Excuse me Splash but one cannot remember EVERYTHING that happend years ago.

A liar knows the truth and twists it to be self serving, I have no dog in this race, YET,--- and now I am wondering why You would call me a liar for repeating what I believe happend.    It could be I heard it on a anti Palin news Chanel or the radio for gosh sake.

You need to realise that we of the ordinary public are bombarded by conflicting views and some of this sticks in the mind.  We are not lying when we repeat what may have been said a few years ago, we are just repeating what we remember--if we are wrong, so be it someone will correct us.

It has only been 2 years ago that interview was given. If an old fart like me can remember what she said, liberals on your side should get it straight. So, I stick by my statement that anyone that repeats it is a liar. I notice that you did not apologize. Same deal with your dickhead liberal friends on youtube.   

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Tina Fey was the one that said she could see Russia from her house, and the DUmmies believed it was really Palin.

Indeed; I still remember hearing our left-leaning friend citing that during the election with, of course, the most smug dismay.

I always suspected there was something about that alleged quote that was either being misunderstood or lied about...


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What she said was that you can see Russia from Alaska.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXL86v8NoGk

Here's the picture ...

www.panoramio.com/photo/407734

Heres the lie ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC018OJfwH4
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What she said was that you can see Russia from Alaska.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXL86v8NoGk

Here's the picture ...

www.panoramio.com/photo/407734

Heres the lie ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC018OJfwH4

H5 for this Janice, well done!

If I may add, Sarah Palin mentions in her first book that upon hearing Tina Fey say what she did, many Alaskans sent Gov. Palin pictures of themselves at their homes with Russia clearly visible in the background. 
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Honestly, I like Palin; by and large, she'd make a much better candidate than any RINO the elites would offer us, and a much better president.

I'm not 100% on board with her on every single stance of hers, but close enough to give her the vote if she gets the RNC's nod. The only problem is how the media will demonize her; I know they will give her both barrels if they get half the chance.


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Honestly, I like Palin; by and large, she'd make a much better candidate than any RINO the elites would offer us, and a much better president.

I'm not 100% on board with her on every single stance of hers, but close enough to give her the vote if she gets the RNC's nod. The only problem is how the media will demonize her; I know they will give her both barrels if they get half the chance.

Sad - I'm less worried about the media demonizing her (that's to be expected) than the Blue-Blood Republicans and CINOs.
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The only problem is how the media will demonize her; I know they will give her both barrels if they get half the chance.

As I understand it, the media has spent over 2 million dollars spreading this lie throughout tv, radio and the internet.

Somebody is deadly serious afraid of this woman.

What a diff compared to how they "cover" for their messaih.

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Personally, I like Sarah Palin and I think she has the potential to be a good president. Certainly better than the one that is in there now!!

That being said....I don't think she's electable at this time. That may change by 2016. But right now, MSM and the Democrats will do everything they can to prevent her from being elected. I don't know why they have such a "hate" for her....but they do, and I don't understand why.

I don't think she will run in 2012, simply because I don't think she will subject her children to the stress and microscopic intrusion into every facet of their lives. The older ones can handle it, but Piper (?) and particularly Trig are too young and Sarah is too protective (which is a good thing!) of them - especially after the last election - to subject them to the scrutiny and the hate spewing liberals. She would still be young in 10 years and the kids would all be grow with the exception of Trig.

I do think she would make a great chair of the RNC. 
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Sad - I'm less worried about the media demonizing her (that's to be expected) than the Blue-Blood Republicans and CINOs.

Sadly, I can agree with that. She'll have it coming from all fronts.

As I understand it, the media has spent over 2 million dollars spreading this lie throughout tv, radio and the internet.

Somebody is deadly serious afraid of this woman.

What a diff compared to how they "cover" for their messaih.

Indeed; the media and the leftists of America fall all over themselves to defend their precious savior, but a woman (whom you'd think they'd at least show a little respect for, since she's a woman in politics) who happens to be a conservative, they skewer time and again.

It's because, of course, that she's a conservative. She didn't have a doctor kill her Downs baby, she doesn't believe in preferential treatment for women above men, she thinks guns are OK and not evil talismans that cause crime - the reasons are endless, as we know.

Palin is something they're afraid of, big time - she implies to other women that they don't have to be left-wing, anti-gun, handout-obsessed paranoiacs like the DNC would prefer. She tells women that they don't have to be liberals to be good women.

And, they hate her for that.


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Sad - I'm less worried about the media demonizing her (that's to be expected) than the Blue-Blood Republicans and CINOs.

She has that fighting spirit which I greatly admire. I think she will run and win not only the nomination but the Presidency. Blue Blood Repubs like Rove and Krawhammer are terrified of her because of her government policies. These liberal Repubs do not want the apple cart turned upside down. Trimming around the edges is not going to get the job done; I fear that is what is going to happen with the new Congress.  

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I do think she would make a great chair of the RNC. 

I thought so too when it first came up, but she doesn't
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"... the primary role of the RNC chair seems be that of fundraiser-in-chief, and there are others who would probably be much more comfortable asking people for money than I would be, and they would definitely enjoy it more."




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I'd actually prefer Palin as head of the RNC, I think she and we would be better off reforming the Republican Party from within.

Head of the RNC is nothing but a glorified fundraiser. She's much too valuable for that. Personally I'd like to see her run because I think she can win (her political instincts are like none I've ever seen, even Reagan's). She runs circles around her critics, the media, 0bama, and even those on the right who think they're smarter than the average person.

And I'm damn sick of every attractive woman with a point of view being called a bimbo. At least she's got the balls to put herself out there.

Reagan-Carter was the first election I could vote in so I paid very close attention. Today I feel like I'm on a deja vu roller coaster. As she's said, IF she decides to run (and I'm not sure the country deserves her) she's "in it to win it". She's constantly underestimated.

Jake says he'd have NO problem having such a hot CinC.

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I have listened to her talk. I think her ideas are right up the alley of Jefferson, Adams and Washington.

Carter is a PhD. Obama went to top schools.

Again. Can you provide specifics of "brainless" and "bimbo"?

I find her dedicated to her family and plain spoken. I'm not saying she can win the presidency, but I think "brainless" and "bimbo" is a bit unfair, especially without specific examples.


There have been too many of these elitists running the country and not enough common sense patriots. We've gotten so used to a certain type of person being "presidential" material that we focus more on outward appearance (how would so and so do at a DC cocktail party or giving an Ivy League commencement speech) that substance is less important. It's gotten so ridiculous that we've got and empty-headed pretty boy who looks and sounds good when he reads speeches off a teleprompter.

The Constitution only requires that the president be 35 years old and a natural-born citizen. Had the founders thought any other qualifications necessary they would have included them. There's been too many thinkers and not enough doers. If she can run the US like she ran Alaska we could do worse but probably not much better.

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And I'm damn sick of every attractive woman with a point of view being called a bimbo. At least she's got the balls to put herself out there.

I agree with you. She has experience, she has the courage to face the leftist controlled media, and she speaks the truth no matter how harsh it may be. Ultimately it does not matter how she looks, though I love how she makes ugly and bitter feminazis throw a temper tantrum and exposes their hypocrisy in the process.

Her confidence would help a lot in the diplomatic arena too. Sissy types like Obama do damage just by conversing with foreign leaders because they do not convey strength.
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It's gotten so ridiculous that we've got and empty-headed pretty boy who looks and sounds good when he reads speeches off a teleprompter.

Pretty boy? I could at least see where Bill Clinton's female fans were coming from when they used to pine about how handsome he was, as he wasn't an ugly man. Obama... only thing more visually off-putting than him would be Amy Winehouse or Gollum. Even so, my wife and I have some liberal female friends who actually think he's attractive! He looks like he was the sort of kid who got beat up for his lunch money on a regular basis.

I agree with you. She has experience, she has the courage to face the leftist controlled media, and she speaks the truth no matter how harsh it may be. Ultimately it does not matter how she looks, though I love how she makes ugly and bitter feminazis throw a temper tantrum and exposes their hypocrisy in the process.

Her confidence would help a lot in the diplomatic arena too. Sissy types like Obama do damage just by conversing with foreign leaders because they do not convey strength.

Amen. She'd do wonders where a dishrag like Obama has only cost us in the world's eyes. Sarah doesn't have his silver tongue, and thank God for that.


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Pretty boy? I could at least see where Bill Clinton's female fans were coming from when they used to pine about how handsome he was, as he wasn't an ugly man. Obama... only thing more visually off-putting than him would be Amy Winehouse or Gollum. Even so, my wife and I have some liberal female friends who actually think he's attractive! He looks like he was the sort of kid who got beat up for his lunch money on a regular basis.

Amen. She'd do wonders where a dishrag like Obama has only cost us in the world's eyes. Sarah doesn't have his silver tongue, and thank God for that.


I never thought of him like your description, though it's a good one.

He's always reminded me of those guys that you see in a gym, that are always staring at themselves in the wall mirrors to make sure they are looookkkinnnnnnnnn' gooood....at least in their own minds.  ::) When he cants his chin up and looks down his nose when he's speaking....I just want to smack the shit out of him!! That look does not exude confidence....it screams arrogance and condescension.  :argh:
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Head of the RNC is nothing but a glorified fundraiser. She's much too valuable for that. Personally I'd like to see her run because I think she can win (her political instincts are like none I've ever seen, even Reagan's). She runs circles around her critics, the media, 0bama, and even those on the right who think they're smarter than the average person.

And I'm damn sick of every attractive woman with a point of view being called a bimbo. At least she's got the balls to put herself out there.

Reagan-Carter was the first election I could vote in so I paid very close attention. Today I feel like I'm on a deja vu roller coaster. As she's said, IF she decides to run (and I'm not sure the country deserves her) she's "in it to win it". She's constantly underestimated.

Jake says he'd have NO problem having such a hot CinC.

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This is where everybody - Sarah included - needs to think outside the box just a little bit.

And, frankly, it's a little uncharacteristic of her to scoff at the top job at the helm of the RNC because she's accepting what other people tell her about the job.

I would think that she'd make something of this position. Do what hasn't been done before. Delegate the fund-raising to others who "enjoy it" perhaps, but getting out there and leading, pressing the flesh, speaking, and mobilizing real Americans toward self-empowerment and motivating to conservative causes - THAT is what she should be doing as chair of the RNC.

If she did that, there would be NO PROBLEM with money. All that would have to be done is to count it and spend it on the best conservative candidate the party can put out there.

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This is where everybody - Sarah included - needs to think outside the box just a little bit.

And, frankly, it's a little uncharacteristic of her to scoff at the top job at the helm of the RNC because she's accepting what other people tell her about the job.

I would think that she'd make something of this position. Do what hasn't been done before. Delegate the fund-raising to others who "enjoy it" perhaps, but getting out there and leading, pressing the flesh, speaking, and mobilizing real Americans toward self-empowerment and motivating to conservative causes - THAT is what she should be doing as chair of the RNC.

If she did that, there would be NO PROBLEM with money. All that would have to be done is to count it and spend it on the best conservative candidate the party can put out there.



Your reasoning is the same as mine.

There is something about Sarah that people are willing to open up their checkbooks. People pay lots of money to hear her speak, her books get snapped up. When she was selected as McCain's running mate, it was reported that money started flowing into their coffers, far exceeding what it had when it was just McCain, and continued up to the election.

I don't think Sarah would be spending much time asking for money. She would just need to get out there and rally the GOP behind the chosen candidate. Just as she was doing at the mid-terms. That is something that she is incredibly successful at doing, and it's a gift. Not just anybody has that capability.
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Your reasoning is the same as mine.

There is something about Sarah that people are willing to open up their checkbooks. People pay lots of money to hear her speak, her books get snapped up. When she was selected as McCain's running mate, it was reported that money started flowing into their coffers, far exceeding what it had when it was just McCain, and continued up to the election.

I don't think Sarah would be spending much time asking for money. She would just need to get out there and rally the GOP behind the chosen candidate. Just as she was doing at the mid-terms. That is something that she is incredibly successful at doing, and it's a gift. Not just anybody has that capability.
Palin is not a GOP loyalist. She is a Tea Party candidate that will try to change the Repub party and promote candidates that have the same agenda. If I was her, I would hate to be raising money for another RINO like Romney. She should stick to what she is doing now which is promoting ultra conservative values rather than whoring for some candidate she does see eye to eye with on many issues.

I want her to run for President. Getting in a nasty battle for Steele's job would do her no good because it would give the RINO's and the Eastern Establishment Rockefeller Repubs like Rove  & Krawhammer an opportunity to gang up on her.  

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Palin is not a GOP loyalist. She is a Tea Party candidate that will try to change the Repub party and promote candidates that have the same agenda. If I was her, I would hate to be raising money for another RINO like Romney. She should stick to what she is doing now which is promoting ultra conservative values rather than whoring for some candidate she does see eye to eye with on many issues.

I want her to run for President. Getting in a nasty battle for Steele's job would do her no good because it would give the RINO's and the Eastern Establishment Rockefeller Repubs like Rove  & Krawhammer an opportunity to gang up on her.  


Why are you assuming that Romney will be the chosen candidate?

The GOP and the Tea Party will end up uniting in some way...if for no other reason than to defeat the Democrats in 2012. If they remain split at the time of the presidential election, they might as well hand the presidency to the Democrats - and most likely Obama...because it will be the Dems with the majority vote.
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Why are you assuming that Romney will be the chosen candidate?

The GOP and the Tea Party will end up uniting in some way...if for no other reason than to defeat the Democrats in 2012. If they remain split at the time of the presidential election, they might as well hand the presidency to the Democrats - and most likely Obama...because it will be the Dems with the majority vote.

It's not an assumption, but it is a possibility. The problem is, the RNC MUST support the nominee. How could she do that and not compromise her principles? It's not like she can say, "hey I don't want him, but he's the choice so we have to get behind him, rah, rah." The chairman has to campaign (if only with TV interviews and a smattering of personal appearances) enthusiastically for the nominee. Because she's such a big draw it would be expected that she appear at rallies. She would be forced to compromise her personal values or go against the nominee. I hope we don't end up with a Romney but what if there's a Romney, Huck, Newt run-off (a VERY real possibility) and we end up being stuck with one of them?

Look what happened last time. Most of the true conservatives had all the charisma of a cotton ball. The only one who had personality, Thompson, obviously didn't want it. Open primaries in early voting states where the candidate is chosen before most of us get a voice pretty much guarantee a milquetoast. Even if she wanted to reshape the party she'd be forced to give lip service to the candidate's platform. At least for the time he/she is the candidate/party leader his agenda is the republican agenda. Like it or not, that's how it has to be.

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Why are you assuming that Romney will be the chosen candidate?

The GOP and the Tea Party will end up uniting in some way...if for no other reason than to defeat the Democrats in 2012. If they remain split at the time of the presidential election, they might as well hand the presidency to the Democrats - and most likely Obama...because it will be the Dems with the majority vote.

Romney is the front runner. I sure hope he does not get it cause I will stay at home on election day. I will not vote for another RINO. If the Establishment Repubs want to pick and choose our nominee, I will have no part in it. I am fed up with Rockefeller jerks like Rove and Krawhammer spouting off their know it all philosophy. The GOP needs to change not the Tea Party. If they do not, Obama might get reelected. I am just not too big on compromising my principles anymore.  
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It's not an assumption, but it is a possibility. The problem is, the RNC MUST support the nominee. How could she do that and not compromise her principles? It's not like she can say, "hey I don't want him, but he's the choice so we have to get behind him, rah, rah." The chairman has to campaign (if only with TV interviews and a smattering of personal appearances) enthusiastically for the nominee. Because she's such a big draw it would be expected that she appear at rallies. She would be forced to compromise her personal values or go against the nominee. I hope we don't end up with a Romney but what if there's a Romney, Huck, Newt run-off (a VERY real possibility) and we end up being stuck with one of them?

Look what happened last time. Most of the true conservatives had all the charisma of a cotton ball. The only one who had personality, Thompson, obviously didn't want it. Open primaries in early voting states where the candidate is chosen before most of us get a voice pretty much guarantee a milquetoast. Even if she wanted to reshape the party she'd be forced to give lip service to the candidate's platform. At least for the time he/she is the candidate/party leader his agenda is the republican agenda. Like it or not, that's how it has to be.

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Above all else (except her family), Palin is most assuredly a politician. That means she can suck it up and drive on when they put the key in the ignition and start the engine. She's a team player when it's called for.

I don't believe she'd be "sacrificing her principles" just as I don't believe she's officially any kind of Tea Party candidate. Oh sure, she appeals to Tea Partiers, but as it's not an official political party in any way (nor is it going to be), Palin isn't going to be running for office as a Tea Party candidate.

Somewhere upthread somebody (debk?) talked about the inevitable impact of presidential campaign on her family - and I would think, based on what I've seen, that she would not put her family through a nasty, vicious campaign at this time.

I could not agree with you more about the 2008 candy-dates. Cotton ball charisma is right.

The RNC needs to gin up a WORTHY candidate and get with the program. Obama will NOT be a pushover. Palin can definitely help get things rejuvenated, as Steele has let things languish far, far too long.
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This is where everybody - Sarah included - needs to think outside the box just a little bit.

And, frankly, it's a little uncharacteristic of her to scoff at the top job at the helm of the RNC because she's accepting what other people tell her about the job.

I would think that she'd make something of this position. Do what hasn't been done before. Delegate the fund-raising to others who "enjoy it" perhaps, but getting out there and leading, pressing the flesh, speaking, and mobilizing real Americans toward self-empowerment and motivating to conservative causes - THAT is what she should be doing as chair of the RNC.

If she did that, there would be NO PROBLEM with money. All that would have to be done is to count it and spend it on the best conservative candidate the party can put out there.



H5 for your post. Any chance you can make Palin "see the light"?  I think she would be a great RNC chair, one that could change the face of Repubs. 
Our people look for a cause to believe in. Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?***Ronald Reagan