I have been dealing with something that I learned from a second cousin about som

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The_REAL_Ecumenist (691 posts)

that happened to my father's grandfather. My father's paternal side of the family are from North Carolina & although I had heard about an uncle who had to leave Mississippi in the middle of the night to escape the klan murdering him, my mother's family having to wait in the oaks with rifles loaded with rock salt because my Maternal Greatgrandfather, (he was Irish married to a ethereally beautiful & VERY dark black woman), had inherited rice mills & 10's of thousands of acres of land in Navarro county, Texas, along with thousands of heads of longhorns from his Ulster Scot father, I also knew that I'd had several ancestors who'd been lynched.
Well, the thing I laughingly referred to as my father died from his own stupidity in February 2021 and I met some of his cousins. It was then that I learned what I'm about to tell all of you here on DU. My cousin's name is Betty and we chatted getting to know one another. She's a decade & change older than me. She was telling me about Paternal grandfather's family, my full blood Cherokee GreatGreat Grandmother, etc. and I was fascinated but NOTHING could have prepared me for what she told me me next...
You see, it turns out that my Greatgrandfather was LYNCHED in the late 20's/early 30's by a white man who wanted the land that my Greatgrandfather had worked so hard for along with his parents who were former slaves. He wanted my GGrandfather to sell him the land for pennies on the dollar. "Besides, n*****rs weren't fit to have nice things." I don't think that I have to be explicit about what old dude actually said or meant.
My GGrandfather had promised his parents that he would always keep the land and work it to hand down to his children. He refused time and time again the white dude's demand & I guess that this creep decided if greatpa wouldn't sell, he'd "take" the land come hail or high water. SO....a few days later, greatpa had worked hard on his land, cultivating his crops, caring for his livestock, etc, as he did everyday except Sundays. At the end of the day, he was on his way back to the house, walking down the road. His youngest child, 9 year old boy, ran to meet his daddy as he did everyday following work. Unfortunately, neither Greatpa nor his little boy knew that the creep had been waiting along the road, hidden in some shrubs but he wasn't on foot. He was in an old truck. He waited until my greatpa and his boy were several hundred yards past him, chatting about the day-the 9 year old telling his daddy about how he'd done at school and greatpa laughing and teasing his child.
This pre-Magat started his truck and laid his foot heavy onto the gas pedal. Apparently, Greatpa heard the truck and understanding what was happening, he pushed my 9 year old great uncle out of the way just before being purposely run over by this demon. This son of a blue bitch backed up and ran over him twice more. You can imagine how my great uncle was horrified & traumatised to see his daddy murdered in front of him, literally turned into gore. To make things even worse, the monster then jumped at the child, who was frozen to the spot, laughing, He then grabbed the little boy, got in his face and told him this:" You little n****r, if you tell ANYBODY what I did, I'm coming back to kill you, that black n****r b*tch, your mammy and your whole family! Did you understand me boy?" My great uncle, already frozen to the spot and crying, simply nodded his head as that inbred idiot monster drove off laughing. He's not sure how long it was but it must have been at least an hour. His mom sent an older sibling to the farm to find out what was holding up their dad & their little brother. It was then that the sibling came upon the little boy and what was he surmised was the remains of his father. He tenderly took the little boy into his arms and carried him home. EVERYONE was devastated and my Greatma was inconsolable. There was no use in reporting what had happened to my Ggrandfather to the sheriff because he was not white and worse, he was half N.A. That little boy never told anyone who had murdered his daddy and why until he was in his 20's. He was traumatised for the rest of his life, although he was VERY protective of his children, unsurprisingly. He passed about 12 years ago. Today, I turned 60 years old, (Oh Lawd, no! lol) but I felt that this is something that this is what we, as a country looking into the abyss of the returning. Abominations like this are becoming more & more common & if you believe that this won't be a thing, that what trump and his knuckledragging, mouth breathing magats are just talking shit re: murdering and re-enslaving people like me, think again. ALL of us have to work to make sure that dump, all of his syncophants, etc NEVER get any closer to government than a coloring book full of drawings of the whitehouse, the capital buildings, the senate, etc. Also remember that P.O.C. weren't the only ones that lynched...those who worked to helped folks get justice and civil rights, ESPECIALLY immigrants , (hell Irish weren't even considered white and there were the same signs that barred black folks, Jews, N.A., DOGS!!!, Latinos, Asians) from stores, diners, etc. So, if this tiype pf wholesale slaughter of POC begins, just as in nazi occupied Europe, it won't be long until others who look just like my European Brothers and Sisters are treated the same way. Remember, MANY Germans who didn't agree with Nazism died in those camps too.
Let's work so hard to make sure that this country doesn't devolve into what it was 90 years ago, hell, 50 years ago.
I have a few more of my famly and their mistreatment because they were N.A., A.A., IRISH, Mixed..horrific and terrible but I hope that they're proud of the fact that their descendents not only survived but we've thrived. For those that died, I refuse to lay down and allow their spilled blood to have been shed in vain....Thank you for allowing me to tell my story here.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218638345

WTF just happened??

[SVPete]

mopinko (69,272 posts)
3. this was not that long ago.
Reply to The_REAL_Ecumenist (Original post)
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 07:45 AM
i agree, we cd end up w this bullshit again, easily.
and your story shows how far such things can ripple. through generations.
how the **** do we prevent this happening again?

"Not that long ago"? If I understood what was readable in that wall-of-text, that happened, if it was not fiction, a century or more ago. If mopsie is 70 or so, this story happened when her parents were children ... or possibly not yet born. Personalizing the timeframe, my parents were born during Wilson-the-Racist's first term. They were in elementary school in the first half of the 1920s!

The process has been painful - made more so by Wilson "cleansing" blacks from Federal employment, lionizing the KKK, and generally encouraging racism (the anti-black race riots of 1919 and following didn't come out of nowhere!), but I think the US passed the point where "we cd end up w this bullshit again, easily" in the early 1960s, or even earlier - Truman re-integrating the US military, the Brown decision, and the 1957 Civil Rights Act were all significant milestones in that process.

[Old n Grumpy]

That was way too much for me to read for those of you who did read it was it blamed on Trump in the end or was it Putin‘s fault?

[SVPete]

That was way too much for me to read for those of you who did read it was it blamed on Trump in the end or was it Putin‘s fault?

 I didn't read that entire shaggy-dog-story wall of text. There's a reason I try to break up my longer posts into reasonable length paragraphs, with a blank line in between paragraphs.

[jukin]

Too long.

Too little punctuation and grammar.

and

Too stupid

Didn't read.

[Old n Grumpy]

I didn't read that entire shaggy-dog-story wall of text. There's a reason I try to break up my longer posts into reasonable length paragraphs, with a blank line in between paragraphs.

I type with 2 fingers, it would have taken me days to post that 

[CollectivismMustDie]

Instead of 'cop jumped out of the bushes',  She/He/IT went with 'racist drove out of the bushes'.

And they call others unsophisticated...

[SVPete]

Summarizing the almost interminable -tale that might or might not be embellished or fictional ("the late 20's/early 30's"? An uncertainty of 5 years or so?), The_REAL_Ecumenist's great grandfather was brutally run down and murdered (not lynched literally with a rope and tree) in front of his 9YO son. And The_REAL_Ecumenist is "dealing with it". His drama-queenage suggests that the -tale might be embellished or fictional.

[USA4ME]

This is something the primitives do from time to time. They like calling black people “n’s” so they disguise it in a story as to not get tombstoned. I’ve seen it happen there too many times to believe it’s not on purpose.

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[Old n Grumpy]

A long long time ago, in a land far far away ………….


I wonder if his grandfather’s tribe was the same one that Elizabeth Warren belongs to.

[Delmar]

rifles loaded with rock salt

The story is BS from start to finish but this line especially stuck out.  Details matter.  Primitive doesn't know a rifle from a shotgun.

[Movie buff- The Sequel]

Summarizing the almost interminable -tale that might or might not be embellished or fictional ("the late 20's/early 30's"? An uncertainty of 5 years or so?), The_REAL_Ecumenist's great grandfather was brutally run down and murdered (not lynched literally with a rope and tree) in front of his 9YO son.

I too noticed that, if this story actually happened, it sounds A LOT more like a straightforward murder than like a lynching.