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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on February 11, 2020, 11:04:07 PM
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Star Member Qutzupalotl (11,423 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287502598
"I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders"
(by Kurt Eichenwald, article from Nov. 2016)
So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers.
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Then there's the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, and that he stole electricity from a neighbor after failing to pay his bills, and that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermont's nuclear waste to a poor Hispanic community in Texas, where it could be dumped. You can just see the words "environmental racist" on Republican billboards. And if you can't, I already did. They were in the Republican opposition research book as a proposal on how to frame the nuclear waste issue.
Also on the list: Sanders violated campaign finance laws, criticized Clinton for supporting the 1994 crime bill that he voted for, and he voted against the Amber Alert system. His pitch for universal health care would have been used against him too, since it was tried in his home state of Vermont and collapsed due to excessive costs. Worst of all, the Republicans also had video of Sanders at a 1985 rally thrown by the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua where half a million people chanted, "Here, there, everywhere/the Yankee will die,'' while President Daniel Ortega condemned "state terrorism" by America. Sanders said, on camera, supporting the Sandinistas was "patriotic."
The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I don't know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.
https://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044
2016? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Star Member blm (102,894 posts)
3. First time I'm seeing this. Kurt Eichenwald is not the type
of journalist who would write this recklessly.
:lmao:
betsuni (12,511 posts)
4. "delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance."
Great article.
Star Member calguy (1,734 posts)
6. This is real political reality
So many Sanders supporters, not all of them, are so naive they have no idea of what would hitthem, and hit them hard. I know first hand, I worked on the McGovern campaign as a young naive 22 year old. I can still feel the pain.
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Star Member Qutzupalotl (11,423 posts)
13. I was a Bernie supporter in 2016.
Mostly I was worried that Clinton was too hated, even if irrationally.
DUer Steven Leser tried to warn me about all the oppo research on Sanders. I didn’t want to believe him. That was before all this Russia shit played out, and IIRC before the election. (I went looking for his post but couldn’t find it.)
I believe him now.
Our task is to coalesce around one strong candidate to keep Sanders from claiming momentum, but I don’t know who that should be. I like all the other top contenders, but too many choices dilute the anti-Bernie vote.
fallout87 (722 posts)
37. The establishment knives
are out for Bernie...
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The longer the Dems wait to kneecap Bernie, the worse it will be for them. They better hurry up.
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The Republican opposition against Sanders in three words: He's a socialist.
And there's also 2A and abortion.
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IF the dems have not picked their nomination by the time the primaries hit Texas, I've thought of voting for Bernie. You know, it's kind of like calling senators in other states and pretending you are a constituent. I know several people I could talk into doing this as well.
KC
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IF the dems have not picked their nomination by the time the primaries hit Texas, I've thought of voting for Bernie. You know, it's kind of like calling senators in other states and pretending you are a constituent. I know several people I could talk into doing this as well.
KC
I could vote for Bernie in the primary. :)
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I could vote for Bernie in the primary. :)
I like our chances against Bernie. Hell, even Bill Maher last night was saying Bernie is too far out for him. Bill Freaking Maher.
Michael Bloomberg ... I worry about him, but I still think Trump wins. Bloomberg plays the middle too easily.
KC
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I like our chances against Bernie. Hell, even Bill Maher last night was saying Bernie is too far out for him. Bill Freaking Maher.
Michael Bloomberg ... I worry about him, but I still think Trump wins. Bloomberg plays the middle too easily.
KC
Yeah, but I think if Bloomers is the nominee, the commies stay home in droves.
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Yeah, but I think if Bloomers is the nominee, the commies stay home in droves.
I think he would pick up the Never Trumpers who couldn't hold their nose long enough to vote for the Bern.
KC
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Too much tentacle porn.