Reich-Wing source Hot Air had an article about it nearly three weeks ago, and it linked to articles from CNN and Financial Times. So the info is "out there". MM's OP suggests that DU is late to the topic, and MM, at least, displayed a whole lot of ignorance concerning vaccines.
Star Member roamer65 (26,363 posts)
7. ...
I am seeing the de-emphasis on the BBC and AlJazeera English.
Gee, taking the claim at face value, why would the BBC and AJ be "de-emphasizing" the India situation? Maybe the Beeb doesn't want to talk about the AZ vaccine's performance against the South African variant? Maybe the Muslim-run AJ doesn't give a @#$% about dying Hindus?
Star Member dalton99a (60,982 posts)
6. All vaccines distributed in the U.S. are manufactured in the U.S.
The raw materials, the mRNA active and lipid-based excipients, the vial filling and packaging services - all done in the U.S.
A full kudo to this DU-member for telling a mostly-truth of which MM is plainly ignorant. Some Pfizer and J&J vaccine doses have been produced in EuroLand, and the Pfizer vaccine was developed by German company BioNTech.
Star Member DenaliDemocrat (712 posts)
59. This whole OP stinks of fail
No vaccines used in the US were produced in India. None. In addition, India has their own effective vaccine, and they donated/sold millions of doses. Finally, while some mutations may evade some neutralizing antibodies, T-cells and other antibodies have proven to still provide good protectiveness. A virus so mutated to avoid the vaccines is like incapable of infecting people.
This is just conjecture and bullshit and instead of being upvoted should be deleted
Star Member Ferrets are Cool (14,023 posts)
68. Wow, you have quite a low post count to be chiding one of the most revered voices
on DU.
So even though the "chiding" is true,
Star Moron Ferrets are Cool is chiding
Star Member DenaliDemocrat for strongly expressing the truth.
This, is DU! As I mentioned above, the Serum Institute of India's vaccine is well along in testing. It's proving effective, but AFAIK is not approved and in production.
Star Member DenaliDemocrat (712 posts)
77. Lol, so post count makes him a microbiologist?
He’s completely wrong and spouting disinformation
Lots of completely wrong people have a following. I have no idea what realm in which he is revered, but it sure the hell isn’t microbiology
One need not be a microbiologist or immunologist or anything else medical. I'm not. One merely needs to dig around a little to find well-sourced news. The news releases for AZ, J&J, Moderna, Novavax, and Pfizer are decent starting points. Yeah, they aren't "objective", but if they release falsehoods the SEC and stockholders will be all over them. Hot Air has people following things Covid, as do PJMedia & Instapundit and Bongino Report (all Reich-wing sources, but the
all-conservatives-are-anti-vaxxers narrative is a silly Prog-stereotype). One could even do worse than to look through my link-laden post about the
Trump Vaccines here,
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,412701.0.html .
Star Member FakeNoose (18,139 posts)
37. I don't understand why the US Pharmas cannot share the vaccine formula
Isn't it for the good of everyone to get the vaccine distributed as quickly and efficiently as possible?
Patents are not hindering vaccine production and distribution.
All the several vaccine producing companies have been licensing rather liberally. But producing the vaccines is not like mixing chemicals in a kiddie-kemistry set.
The AZ and J&J use a different technology than traditional weakened/dead virus vaccines, and the technology is still somewhat new. "Worse" still, Pfizer's and Moderna's mRNA technology is totally new. IOW, there is not a lot of idle production capacity around capable of producing the AZ, J&J, Pfizer, and Moderna vaccines. Loads of equipment would have to be purchased and set up, an lots of people trained in things they've not done before. The material needed for vaccine production - things specific to each vaccine and necessaries for vaccine production generally are becoming scarce, with governments interfering with distribution of these materials.
Patents are not hindering vaccine production and distribution, DU-Morons! Star Moron NJCher (26,016 posts)
42. we're number one! we're number one!
total deaths U.S. 581,056
Population of U.S. 331,628,203
india total deaths: 238,270
Population of India: 1,376,640,608
We have over twice the deaths they do.
With a lower population.
Above figures taken from NY Times (deaths) and Wiki (population).
It takes a special kind of moron to believe India has heretofore been honest about their Covid stats and to think India has a healthcare system capable of keeping accurate stats.
Star
Moron NJCher omitted or is ignorant of another Covid stat. While the population of the US is ~1/4 that of India, the US has performed >6X the number of Covid tests as has India. That's a rather stark indicator of how much India does not know about their Covid situation.
DUmmies are particularly skilled at shooting their mouths of behind the cover of ignorance. Another example:
Star Member lastlib (17,610 posts)
69. Former Idiot would say "aMErica FIRST!" Joe Biden is DOING something.
Pres. Biden has sent planeloads of vaccine to India, and no doubt will do more. He. Understands. the danger. Former Idiot didn't, and didn't care to learn, and only wanted to know what was in it for him. So. Damn. Glad. we have Joe Biden at the big desk now.
Had
Star Moron lastlib bothered to become informed from a source such as
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/ , (s)he would have learned that daily new cases in India had been in a long decline, from mid September 2020 through the end of February 2021. Thus, there was no particular need in India apparent to Trump at the time he left office, nor to
LIEden for another 5 weeks after that. OTOH, those "planeloads of vaccine"
LIEden sent to India? They had been produced to fulfill the contract AZ had signed in late spring 2020 (a significant % of AZ Phase 3 testing in Brazil got screwed up by wrong doses being administered, delaying AZ's request for EUA, which would otherwise have been made in late November or in December 2020). So Trump is responsible for the
existence of those "planeloads of vaccine"
LIEden sent to India!
