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Title: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: dane on November 10, 2018, 10:13:22 PM
Cold Warrior seems upset about this long ago happening, can't seem to get over it.

https://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1015&pid=1867939
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Andy Stephenson: A Miserable death by Freeps and Cavers

For those of you who don’t know, Andy Stephenson was a voters rights advocate from Seattle who died of pancreatic cancer. Whether you agree or disagree with his politics should have little impact on your feelings regarding the attacks he received from extreme conservatives from Free Republic and the Cave. Here is the story...
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And now this new one has been added https://www.discussionist.com/10151868898
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Gutless Cave Leader
In the Andy Stephenson matter, there is one principal who has steadfastly refused to step forward and acknowledge his role in the incident. WHETHER YOU SUPPORT HIS ACTIONS OR RECANT HIS ACTIONS, don’t you think he should have the guts to stand up for them, rather than send his minions out to fight his battles?

Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: dutch508 on November 10, 2018, 10:32:10 PM
Like most things DUmpmonkiez do, they rewrite history to suit themselves.

Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: franksolich on November 10, 2018, 10:32:53 PM
Oh.

That's what people are talking about.

I've had Cold Warrior on "ignore" since the first day I joined DU Jr.--in fact, damned near forgot he even existed--and so I don't see his threads or comments over there.

Well, whatever.

All that can possibly be said about poor stupid Beth's scam, the scam that rocked the internet, has been said, and all's old and stale--but perhaps Cold Warrior or someone else over there has some new information worth considering?


Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: franksolich on November 10, 2018, 10:38:04 PM
Like most things DUmpmonkiez do, they rewrite history to suit themselves.

Well, maybe they missed it, but the whole sordid story of the "why" of poor stupid Beth's scam was explained by none other than the late red round one himself--and he'd know--in my story Paradise Lost: the primitives in Hell.

I can't help it if primitives don't read stuff I write; if they did, maybe they'd know more than they do.
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 10, 2018, 10:40:04 PM
This is from 2005. I do not remember seeing CW around CU when this happened.
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: BannedFromDU on November 10, 2018, 11:16:40 PM
I don't see why Frank is being targeted. Will Pitt was on this over 13 years ago: (https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4049596)

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore    Fri Jul-08-05 12:52 PM

Say hello to a bottomless rage
   
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 12:56 PM by WilliamPitt

The cork is out of the bottle, and I am putting a few people on notice. You know who you are, you know what you did, and a good man has gone down in no small part because of you.

Throwing sand into the gears of the PayPal donations blew Andy off the surgery rotation, casusing him to have to wait a lot longer for his operation.

Spewing the claim time and again that the whole sickness was a fraud, very publicly and on as many blogs and boards as you could find, robbed Andy of the hope and will he needed to overcome this thing.

I think you ****ers should be forced to dig his grave. I think you should be buried with him.

I kept my mouth shut about you these last weeks because every time I said something about you or to you, you got a stiffy from the attention and ramped up your viciousness again. That's over with now.

I am going to make you famous in all the worst kinds of ways. I know your names, I know your addresses, I know your IP numbers, I have screen shots and copies of every vile statement and threat you ever made. I know everything I need to know. Get ready for the ram.

You are graveyard rats. I am going to grind you under my bootheel, scrape you off with a blade, and feed you to my cat.

One note to my fellow DUers: Leave off attacking the mods and admins at that "other" site. They were as disgusted by this as we were, but were hamstrung by the rules of their board which they take as seriously as the admins and mods here. They allowed me to post the documentary evidence over there, in no small part because they wanted the ugliness to stop. You may disagree with them, but they are good people.

They are not the ones who are on my list of things to do. Those on the list know who they are. Bad days are ahead for them. I promise.

We mourn for the next few days. We sing the songs of our friend.

And then we work.


Still waiting for Will to drop the hammer.
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: Carl on November 11, 2018, 05:55:08 AM
CW is so frothing at the mouth obsessed with Frank he sent me this.

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8:00 PM

Cold Warrior
What is it like carrying the water for a scum like Frank?

Mail Message
I mean you seem like a decent, albeit very misguided guy. But really, being the front man for the coward Frank? Sad.

-CW

I posted it on his last two threads laughing at him.
Honestly,in my short time at CU before the Cave started I took him to be an annoying,low intellect blowhard but that was it.
Nothing impressive about him in any way.

He resented Frank back then too.
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: franksolich on November 11, 2018, 06:06:50 AM
He resented Frank back then too.

It's just jealousy, pure and simple; others like franksolich, but they don't care much for Cold Warrior.

The "secret" to this is that I'm a nice guy, one of the nicest guys one can ever hope to meet.....and he's not.

Cold Warrior's got to learn that it's a Hell of lot easier being a nice guy than being a nasty one; less calories expended, less frustrations.

In fact, the whole of the snobbish elitist lorgnette-and-pearls crowd over there, with the exception of Welles the orson dude, and to a much more limited extent, the ramparts dude, needs to learn they'd be more popular if they'd be nicer.

Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: Carl on November 11, 2018, 06:32:00 AM
It's just jealousy, pure and simple; others like franksolich, but they don't care much for Cold Warrior.

The "secret" to this is that I'm a nice guy, one of the nicest guys one can ever hope to meet.....and he's not.

Cold Warrior's got to learn that it's a Hell of lot easier being a nice guy than being a nasty one; less calories expended, less frustrations.

In fact, the whole of the snobbish elitist lorgnette-and-pearls crowd over there, with the exception of Welles the orson dude, and to a much more limited extent, the ramparts dude, needs to learn they'd be more popular if they'd be nicer.

He is a jackass but now has gone full retard.
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: franksolich on November 11, 2018, 06:47:59 AM
He is a jackass but now has gone full retard.

Being isolated and friendless will do that to one.
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: franksolich on November 11, 2018, 06:59:16 AM
He is a jackass but now has gone full retard.

Okay, I went and looked at that third thread, being careful to not read Cold Warrior's comments.

I'm not too impressed by the caliber of the allies he's garnered.
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 11, 2018, 07:52:45 AM
I don't see why Frank is being targeted. Will Pitt was on this over 13 years ago: (https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4049596)


Still waiting for Will to drop the hammer.

As I recall, before this pompously-outraged yet empty pontification, Pitt himself threw sand in the same gears with an alarmed post about the whole thing being a possible scam and counseling delay. 
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 11, 2018, 10:27:37 AM
I do not see anyone at DU talking about this recently. I wonder what triggered Cold Warrior to suddenly obsess about this. He never said anything about this and acts if it is happening.

Cold Warrior is really something. I never liked him. I am surprised he was not banned at CU sooner.
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: BadCat on November 12, 2018, 08:26:49 AM
I do not see anyone at DU talking about this recently. I wonder what triggered Cold Warrior to suddenly obsess about this. He never said anything about this and acts if it is happening.

Cold Warrior is really something. I never liked him. I am surprised he was not banned at CU sooner.

He wasn't at CU during AndyScam.  Showed up a few years later.
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: Airwolf on November 12, 2018, 12:19:52 PM
I guess if there is one thing you can count on ,the left loves to dig things up from the past. Old threads,dead people and such. Anything to get a win over us.
 
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: Zathras on November 12, 2018, 02:22:51 PM
He is a jackass but now has gone full retard.

Gone? How can you go somewhere you've always been. CW was in full retard mode from his first post and, reading that DI thread, has only gotten worse.
Title: Re: A very long discussion about the long gone Andy Stephenson
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 12, 2018, 06:53:17 PM
He wasn't at CU during AndyScam.  Showed up a few years later.

I first saw CW around 2007.