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« on: December 29, 2012, 08:11:05 PM »
I went out last Friday and bought a new ASUS laptop for work related stuff.

I came with Windows 8 on it.

Widows 8 sucks IMO.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2012, 08:11:22 PM »
No argument here. :p

Does your Asus have that chicklet keyboard?  A coworker bought one and it came with these ATM-style keys on the keyboard.  It sucks for typing.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2012, 08:16:42 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on December 29, 2012, 08:11:22 PM
No argument here. :p

Does your Asus have that chicklet keyboard?  A coworker bought one and it came with these ATM-style keys on the keyboard.  It sucks for typing.

I'm not sure what you mean by chicklet keyboard.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2012, 08:23:40 PM »
It's like a Mac keyboard, but the buttons are very hard to push.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2012, 09:28:38 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on December 29, 2012, 08:16:42 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by chicklet keyboard.

Basically it's the kind of keyboard whose keys don't have the little impressions in 'em for your fingertips. It makes even touch typing very iffy. My Toshiba laptop has that kind of keyboard and while I like the full keyboard with the 10-key on the side, I hate the chicklet style.

Another way of thinking about those types of keyboards is the tiles with Scrabble. Butt 'em up together and that's what you get.

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2012, 09:40:33 PM »
I think I figured out Microsoft's marketing strategy.

Develop an OS that people like, say Win XP.  Then come out with one that people don't like, sort of like Vista, but force it on them through new computer sales then make money off of people buy XP to replace Vista on those machines.

Repeat the process .  Win 7 seems perfectly good and functional, now they are foisting Win 8 on us, and people will be buying Win 7 while they still can.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 09:44:46 PM »
Win 8 is more of a Tablet OS, I am not sure what Microsoft is trying to accomplish with pushing it out to consumer PC's.  Most of Microsoft's money comes from the business side an as an IT guy Win 8 will never be used in business.  I guess it is like ME to 98 or Vista to XP.  ME and Vista were both horrible business products but fared decently on the consumer side just because it is what came pre-installed.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2012, 09:48:25 PM »
Quote from: Maxiest on December 29, 2012, 09:44:46 PM
Win 8 is more of a Tablet OS, I am not sure what Microsoft is trying to accomplish with pushing it out to consumer PC's.  Most of Microsoft's money comes from the business side an as an IT guy Win 8 will never be used in business.  I guess it is like ME to 98 or Vista to XP.  ME and Vista were both horrible business products but fared decently on the consumer side just because it is what came pre-installed.

I made the mistake of buying ME. Holy shit, Batman, what a loser of an OS. Never could get it to run.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2012, 09:48:53 PM »
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what 8 is designed for... it's more of a replacement for Windows CE.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2012, 09:50:50 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on December 29, 2012, 09:28:38 PM
Basically it's the kind of keyboard whose keys don't have the little impressions in 'em for your fingertips. It makes even touch typing very iffy. My Toshiba laptop has that kind of keyboard and while I like the full keyboard with the 10-key on the side, I hate the chicklet style.

Another way of thinking about those types of keyboards is the tiles with Scrabble. Butt 'em up together and that's what you get.



Ahh.. I see.  My keyboard ain't like that.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2012, 09:52:02 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on December 29, 2012, 09:40:33 PM
I think I figured out Microsoft's marketing strategy.

Develop an OS that people like, say Win XP.  Then come out with one that people don't like, sort of like Vista, but force it on them through new computer sales then make money off of people buy XP to replace Vista on those machines.

Repeat the process .  Win 7 seems perfectly good and functional, now they are foisting Win 8 on us, and people will be buying Win 7 while they still can.

Uh huh...  And they made it very hard to down grade to windows 7.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2012, 09:53:31 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on December 29, 2012, 09:52:02 PM
Uh huh...  And they made it very hard to down grade to windows 7.

Well the only real way to downgrade is to wipe and re-install.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2012, 09:55:01 PM »
Quote from: Maxiest on December 29, 2012, 09:53:31 PM
Well the only real way to downgrade is to wipe and re-install.

I am seriously considering that option.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2012, 09:57:49 PM »
As long as you have the hardware to support it, Windows 7 is relatively stable.

Just remember to back up your User folder and other files on a regular basis.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2012, 10:00:33 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on December 29, 2012, 09:57:49 PM
As long as you have the hardware to support it, Windows 7 is relatively stable.

Just remember to back up your User folder and other files on a regular basis.
I try and keep everything that's important on a separate hard drive from where Windows is installed.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2012, 10:02:26 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on December 29, 2012, 10:00:33 PM
I try and keep everything that's important on a separate hard drive from where Windows is installed.

Windows 7 is the best thing since sliced XP IMO.

What we do in most IT deparments is re-route the USER folder to an external source, IE an external HD.  I use several other methods such as Dropbox and of course and external drive for my backups.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2012, 10:11:43 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on December 29, 2012, 10:00:33 PM
I try and keep everything that's important on a separate hard drive from where Windows is installed.
The drives I get from Lenovo are garbage... constant failures that are either Windows or hardware related.  I've replaced nearly 30 hard drives this month.

If I knew how to repair a read verification error on a SATA drive, I could probably double my salary. :-)
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2012, 10:16:04 PM »
Quote from: Maxiest on December 29, 2012, 10:02:26 PM
Windows 7 is the best thing since sliced XP IMO.

What we do in most IT deparments is re-route the USER folder to an external source, IE an external HD.  I use several other methods such as Dropbox and of course and external drive for my backups.
Agreed on Win7.  It's extremely reliable as long as you have the hardware for it.  We experimented with a network backup but I don't think it went anywhere.  They used the IT department in a pilot program for an automated network backup but I don't think it's gone anywhere... that stuff costs money. 

As long as there isn't physical damage to the drive, a DriveMate adapter is worth its weight in gold.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2012, 10:22:10 PM »
Things I've Been Told This Month, Part 1: "I only dropped my laptop once.  What do you mean it doesn't work?"
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2012, 10:27:18 PM »
Thor built me a computer about 6 months ago. It's pretty beefy and I maxed out the MB with physical memory at 16 gigs and Win7, 64 bit.

I don't do a lot of video and such, but when I do, I don't like a lot of problems.

Now, if I could only get truly fast Internet I'd be happy.  :argh:
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2012, 10:30:31 PM »
What are you going to do with a 64-bit computer?  Make Facebook load faster?

We have these 64-bit workstations... the drives on them run constantly even when they're doing nothing.  Makes me cringe.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2012, 10:38:51 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on December 29, 2012, 10:30:31 PM
What are you going to do with a 64-bit computer?  Make Facebook load faster?

We have these 64-bit workstations... the drives on them run constantly even when they're doing nothing.  Makes me cringe.

I like horsepower. Lots of horsepower.  :-)
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2012, 10:42:35 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on December 29, 2012, 10:38:51 PM
I like horsepower. Lots of horsepower.  :-)
Doesn't really help unless you're running 64-bit apps.  Whatchoo got for a web browser?
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2012, 10:52:13 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on December 29, 2012, 10:30:31 PM
What are you going to do with a 64-bit computer?  Make Facebook load faster?

We have these 64-bit workstations... the drives on them run constantly even when they're doing nothing.  Makes me cringe.

This computer came with Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit on it with 6 gigs of RAM.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2012, 10:53:45 PM »
I'm posting from a 64 bit laptop running the 64 bit version of fedora and the 64 bit version of firefox.

Not really impressed, even now, it's been awhile.

Might be different if I were running some infrastructure like vmware.
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