Bush denying access to “the dustbin of history”? Executive order 13233

[Attero Dominatus]

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The tinfoil is strong with this one.

Ichingcarpenter  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-03-08 06:15 PM
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Bush denying access to “the dustbin of history”? Executive order 13233
   
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Some of us progressives have comforted ourselves that after the Bush administration is over, the history books will finally tell the truth. Not so fast. History News Network (George Mason Univ.):

The Bush administration’s Executive Order 13233 underscores the new fact that presidential legacies, once the domain of academic historians and parlor game aficionados, have become a serious business — so much so that a president has mounted a Kremlinesque campaign to stifle the free dissemination of information. The Bush administration is playing for keeps.

Bush’s Executive Order 13233 could change history — literally — by restricting historians’ access to materials that help them document and ultimately judge a president’s actions, lapses, and principles.

Executive Order 13233 gives ex-presidents nearly unlimited discretionary authority to prohibit the release of their papers, and allows them to name designees who can act in their stead. Moreover, a sitting president may also prevent the release of a predecessor’s papers — as Bush has already done with some of Ronald Reagan’s papers — even when the predecessor has authorized his papers’ release. These are radical encroachments on the public’s access to documents that were produced in the public interest, at public expense, by officials elected by the public. Citizens can challenge these decisions in court, but the expense and time commitment will discourage most people from trying.

A House-approved bill that would undo this blatant assault on openness has been held up in the Senate. Even if the measure advances, there is no guarantee that Congress could override Bush’s expected veto.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/03/03/bush-denying-a... /

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spanone  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-03-08 06:18 PM
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1. what won't these criminals tamper with? i've spent most of my outrage years ago
   
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Ichingcarpenter  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-03-08 06:19 PM
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3. A Blatant attempt to cover up the crimes of the Bush Crime Family
   
That is the only reason for this executive order.
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Where is your outrage at Bill Clinton for handing out national secrets in exchange for campaign money???

blm  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-03-08 06:24 PM
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6. Remember they insisted 9-11 commission only go back to 1998? Yet it is certain that many of
   
the same characters involved were also heavily involved in BCCI agenda.

Had the outstanding matters in BCCI been dealt with openly and with accountability, there would never have BEEN a 9-11 event, let alone the possibility of another Bush back in the White House.

Closed government CAUSED almost every painful thing this country has gone through the last 20 years.

That is why I am so set against putting a Clinton back in, since Clintons side with secrecy and privilege of closed government that has benefitted the Bush crime family and all their powerful cronies.
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Ichingcarpenter  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Mon Mar-03-08 06:27 PM
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7.  Only two votes from people who realize what this order means
   
I want fricking open government.
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[Chris_]

Which part of "we are at WAR" do these idiots not understand?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Which part of "we are at WAR" do these idiots not understand?

They understand it very well.

They are at war with the US and they want to throw the US under the internationalist bus. If they can reveal our strategies to our enemies while feigning moral outrage, so much the better.