The logic baffles.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=217x6187ris (1000+ posts) Mon May-12-08 05:46 PM
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The Pill Kills 2008 - Protests for June 7th -anniversary of Griswold vs Connecticut
Join young people across the country on Protest the Pill Day '08: The Pill Kills Babies on June 7 and witness outside of clinics that distribute this killing poison.
http://thepillkills.com /
Is there any question what the anti-abortion crowd's REAL intent is?
So I did some research on this, and it turns out that it's true. Because the Pill and other hormonal forms of birth control can cause blood clots, it has caused women to have strokes.
But never mind those pesky facts!
benddem (1000+ posts) Mon May-12-08 05:54 PM
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1. they are against sex
and anti-woman...no doubt about it.
uppityperson (1000+ posts) Tue May-13-08 01:58 AM
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7. from that website... (I went so you don't have to)...
"a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and... reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection."
"sexual activity outside of marriage is seriously wrong."
"Planned Parenthood has "a vested interest in lying to young women because they exploit them."
Iris (1000+ posts) Tue May-13-08 11:39 AM
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8. I'm always baffled by the Planned Parenthood exploits women argument.
And the pill makes men forget having "reverence" for women?
Have these people never met any women who actually are comfortable with and enjoy their sexuality despite what Planned Parenthood and men have to think about it?
I think women should enjoy their sexuality. However, I don't think they should use murder as a form of birth control.
niyad (1000+ posts) Mon May-12-08 06:49 PM
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4. as I tell people repeatedly, at the heart of every single anti-choice argument
whether moral, religious, whatever, lies a profound hatred for women. each and every argument says that someTHING (zygote, church or state) or someONE (the sperm donor, is more important than the woman.
they hate women, they hate the fact that women can, and DO enjoy sex, and they hate the fact that women are entitled to decide what to do with their own bodies. patriarchy has a lot to answer for.
Niyad, you are a tool. A giant ****ing tool, to be precise.
The heart of the pro-LIFE movement is NOT a hatred for women, but a belief that people should be RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS. Screwing around=possible pregnancy. YOU made the CHOICE to have irresponsible, unprotected sex with someone you were not married to, so YOU should have to deal with the CONSEQUENCES of said action.
Women should enjoy sex-I know I do. But once you get pregnant, your body is no longer yours alone. I know, I know...it's not a life, blah blah bullshit. Whatever. You're just selfish.
Nobody (1000+ posts) Tue May-13-08 01:31 PM
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9. Since when is a blastocyst more important than a living breathing woman?
Oh yeah, that's right.
A blastocyst that hasn't implanted in the uterine lining and that has no undifferentiated cells and that you need a microscope to see has always been considered to be more important than these people's mothers. And sisters. And daughters. And neighbors.
These are the same people who want their daughters to die of cervical cancer instead of getting a vaccine that will prevent it (100% effective according to every study)
These are the same people who would rather see women die of ovarian cancer than take an easy option to reduce the risk by nearly 50%. Take the Pill for 5 or more years and you've significantly reduced your risk of getting ovarian cancer. This is a type of cancer that is almost never detected in time and the survival rate is very low.
The health and happiness of women doesn't count to them. They consider us to barely be human in their eyes. Especially if they equate preventing a pregnancy with killing a small child.
Birth control pills remain the most effective form of birth control. There is still a failure rate, but it's pretty small. We need all the facts on every method of birth control, with failure rates, how to use, how to combine to increase effectiveness further.
Oh, the stupidity of the DUmmies:
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/understanding_birth_control_medications_contrace/article_em.htm
Side effects: Birth control may cause a change in vision, necessitating a change in prescription, or an inability to wear contact lens. Birth control pills do not provide protection from sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). The pills must be taken daily and consistently (at the same time every day). If a woman stops taking birth control pills, it may take a few months for her normal ovulatory cycle to return; however, once stopped, a woman can become pregnant even if her cycle has not returned to normal. The following general side effects apply to all the hormonal birth control medications, regardless of how they are taken (for example, pills, topical patch, injection): nausea, breast tenderness, fluid retention, weight gain, acne, breakthrough bleeding, missed periods, headaches, depression, anxiety, other mood changes, and lower sexual desire. Additionally, the following more serious side effects may occur:
Thromboembolism (blood clots): Women who use estrogen-containing birth control pills are at a 3- to 6-fold increased risk of developing blood clots. Blood clots may lead to deep vein thrombosis, heart attack, or stroke. Additional causes of blood clots include advanced age, obesity, family history, recent surgery, and pregnancy. Low-dose (less than 50 mcg of ethinyl estradiol) oral contraceptives pose less risk than older, higher-dose formulations. Cigarette smoking increases the risk of blood clots in women using combination contraceptives, particularly for women older than 35 years and those who smoke more than 15 cigarettes per day.
Breast cancer: The association of birth control pill use and breast cancer in young women is controversial. The Collaborative Group on Hormonal Factors in Breast Cancer performed the most comprehensive study in 1996. The results demonstrated that current pill users and those who had used birth control pills within the past 1-4 years had a slightly increased risk of breast cancer. Although these observations support the possibility of a marginally elevated risk, the group noted that pill users had more breast examinations and breast imaging studies than nonusers. Thus, although the consensus states that birth control pills can lead to breast cancer, the risk is small, and the resulting tumors spread less aggressively than usual. Most doctors currently believe that birth control pill use might interact with another primary cause to stimulate breast cancer.
Cervical cancer: The relationship between birth control pill use and cervical cancer is also quite controversial. The risk is not related to the contraceptive agent itself but to how it leaves a woman unprotected from STDs. Early sexual intercourse, numerous lifetime sexual partners, and exposure to human papillomavirus are all important risk factors. Most authorities now believe that, if birth control pills increase the risk of cervical cancer at all, the risk is small.
Benign liver tumors: Hormones are metabolized by the liver. A small increase in the frequency of benign liver tumors may exist, particularly after 4-8 years of birth control pill use.
Diabetes: Progesterone and high estrogen doses may alter blood glucose (sugar) levels in diabetic women.
So you'd risk breast cancer, cervical cancer, possible stroke or heart attack, liver tumors, and more, just so you can **** a stranger without a condom? You are S-M-R-T, Nobody.
