Author Topic: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.  (Read 9386 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline dutch508

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12521
  • Reputation: +1646/-1068
  • Remember
Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« on: October 27, 2019, 10:32:01 AM »
Quote
Doodley (5,250 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212627429

Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
For a start, Trump has already argued that US forces shouldn't be in Syria and has ordered them to leave, so according to Trump, this raid should have never happened.

Second, the raid was delayed for a month because of the withdrawal order of US forces, triggering the Turkish invasion. And that withdrawal was to create a diversion from the impeachment investigation. Strategy and timing, when lives are at stake, shouldn't be based on the whims of a president.

Third, three children and two women died in this attack.

I don't see anything to gloat about here.

 :whatever:

Quote
Star Member ProudMNDemocrat (5,392 posts)

3. To Trump, women and children are TERRORISTS....

Trump can try to use this to distractf, but President Obama was not under an impeachment inquiry.

Killing of OBL was a big deal. There will be people in ISIS to come up. ISIS has not been defeated. The U.S. policy, or LACK of one in Syria, will only strengthen ISIS. If Trump thinks Putin, Erdogan, and Assad are going to go to war against ISIS who have escaped, he has made a huge mistake. Things just got worse. Al-Qaeda is not dead. They are biding their time. You cannot defeat terrorism because it is an ideology that has no specific territory or country.

The invasion and occupation of Iraq was the beginning of what we have been seeing , so blame Bush for this blunder.

 :mental:

Quote
Mystery sage (211 posts)

4. Agreed

Also"
Baghdadi had already relinquished operational control."

Meaning all they killed was The equivalent of a CEO who sold/gave all all his assets or a mentor who has retired that ISIS could reach.

Should've tried to get him alive as hard as that would have been.

 :whatever:
The torch of moral clarity since 12/18/07

2016 DOTY: 06 Omaha Steve - Is dying for ****'s face! How could you not vote for him, you heartless bastards!?!

Offline Drafe Hoblin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1943
  • Reputation: +444/-13
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2019, 10:41:12 AM »
DU is  " whining and crying and screaming (like a coward) in a dead-end tunnel " .

I see everything to gloat about here. 

Offline Patriot Guard Rider

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2539
  • Reputation: +535/-18
  • Yes, really. Liberals DO disgust me.
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2019, 11:03:14 AM »
"Second, the raid was delayed for a month because of the withdrawal order of US forces, triggering the Turkish invasion."

I want to know how this idjit got hold of operational information that told him the raid was delayed for a month.
Liberals disgust me. (Now I don't have to remember to put it on each post).

Because only the left goes searching for that which is not there in a desperate attempt to be offended about something.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams

Many people do not see evil until the gas is flowing into the chamber. That is why they get on the trains in the first place.

Offline Ralph Wiggum

  • It's unpossible that I'm a
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 18543
  • Reputation: +2037/-49
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2019, 11:30:58 AM »
Lots of military plans are conducted under very tight secrecy.  If the President came out and announced them beforehand, that's akin to the Patriots just giving their opposition their entire game plan.

Idiots.

Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk

Voted hottest "chick" at CU - My hotness transcends gender


Offline SVPete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25821
  • Reputation: +2211/-242
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2019, 11:31:28 AM »
Yes, the raid was indeed a disaster:

Will this be the WashPost headline: Al Baghdadi Dead: Trump-Haters Hardest Hit :rotf:  :tongue:
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline SVPete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25821
  • Reputation: +2211/-242
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2019, 11:33:11 AM »
Lots of military plans are conducted under very tight secrecy.  If the President came out and announced them beforehand, that's akin to the Patriots just giving their opposition their entire game plan.

Idiots.

You are correct on both points. Proggies are pissed they could not leak in advance of the operation; Proggies are.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline dutch508

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12521
  • Reputation: +1646/-1068
  • Remember
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2019, 12:41:30 PM »
Yes, the raid was indeed a disaster:

Will this be the WashPost headline: Al Baghdadi Dead: Trump-Haters Hardest Hit :rotf:  :tongue:

WaPo’s Description Of Baghdadi: ‘Austere Religious Scholar’
The torch of moral clarity since 12/18/07

2016 DOTY: 06 Omaha Steve - Is dying for ****'s face! How could you not vote for him, you heartless bastards!?!

Offline I_B_Perky

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7530
  • Reputation: +718/-329
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2019, 01:03:53 PM »
Quote
Doodley (5,250 posts)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212627429

Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
For a start, Trump has already argued that US forces shouldn't be in Syria and has ordered them to leave, so according to Trump, this raid should have never happened.

Second, the raid was delayed for a month because of the withdrawal order of US forces, triggering the Turkish invasion. And that withdrawal was to create a diversion from the impeachment investigation. Strategy and timing, when lives are at stake, shouldn't be based on the whims of a president.

Third, three children and two women died in this attack.

I don't see anything to gloat about here.

Welcome to DelusionVille!  Population: Dummies

From what I read no kids died and the two women blew themselves up along with their fearful leader.  Sounds to me like we did not kill anyone... they did it to themselves.  BTW... this was from the *conservative* magazine Newsweek.  :-)

Now dummie... if President Trump was to preside over America's Golden Age you idiots would swear it was iron pyrite. You know it is true. Admitting you have delusions is the first step to returning to sanity.

Edited to add: USAToday is saying that three of this fool's kids were killed as well. Newsweek says no kids were killed. So I have no clue.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 07:54:14 PM by I_B_Perky »
Living in the Dummies minds rent free since 2009!

Montani Semper Liberi

Offline Wineslob

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14429
  • Reputation: +778/-193
  • Sucking the life out of Liberty
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2019, 01:29:01 PM »
I see the DUmmies are enjoying  the shit sandwich.   :cheersmate:  DUmmies
“The national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced, if the nation doesn't want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”

        -- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 55 BC (106-43 BC)

The unobtainable is unknown at Zombo.com



"Practice random violence and senseless acts of brutality"

If you want a gender neutral bathroom, go pee in the forest.

Offline Ptarmigan

  • Bunny Slayer
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23532
  • Reputation: +924/-225
  • God Hates Bunnies
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2019, 01:32:27 PM »
I see more meltdowns from the left.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
-Napoleon Bonaparte

Allow enemies their space to hate; they will destroy themselves in the process.
-Lisa Du

Offline SVPete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25821
  • Reputation: +2211/-242
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2019, 01:42:44 PM »
WaPo’s Description Of Baghdadi: ‘Austere Religious Scholar’

The Dems and their MSM shills just cannot help giving Trump campaign rally and ad material.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline I_B_Perky

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7530
  • Reputation: +718/-329
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2019, 07:36:27 PM »
The Dems and their MSM shills just cannot help giving Trump campaign rally and ad material.

I know, ain't it fun?  These idiots, in their seething hatred of everything Trump, are pretty much making it widely known that they are not objective observers, if they ever were.  They are trashing their credibility and they just cannot help themselves.

I love it. I hope every republican politician is taking notes.  The MSM is not your friend so quit treating them like such.
Living in the Dummies minds rent free since 2009!

Montani Semper Liberi

Offline USA4ME

  • Evil Capitalist
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 14565
  • Reputation: +2276/-76
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2019, 10:14:38 PM »
Quote from:
Doodley

Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.

I don't see anything to gloat about here.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi could not be reached for comment.

.
Because third world peasant labor is a good thing.

Offline Zathras

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3403
  • Reputation: +455/-71
  • This is the way.
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2019, 08:26:43 AM »
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi could not be reached for comment.

When they asked for his location to get a comment they were told "He's over there, over there and up there".
Solve a man's problem with violence and help him for a day. Teach a man how to solve his problems with violence, help him for a lifetime - Belkar Bitterleaf

If racist dog whistles are meant to be only heard by racists, then it is quite interesting how progressives seem to be the only people who can hear them. - Leonydus Johnson

What makes a good soldier? The ability to fire 3 rounds a minute in any weather. - Major Richard Sharpe

Offline Old n Grumpy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7524
  • Reputation: +1374/-13
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2019, 09:31:55 AM »
WaPo’s Description Of Baghdadi: ‘Austere Religious Scholar’ Who was also an aspiring young rapper headed to college for an advanced degree.
Life is tough and it’s even tougher when you’re stupid

Basking in the glow of my white Privilege, while I water the Begonias with liberal tears!

I will give up my guns when the liberals give up their illegal aliens

We need a Bull Shit tax to make the Democrats go broke!

Offline YupItsMe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1121
  • Reputation: +135/-6
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2019, 07:49:13 PM »
I suck at the whole uploading pics and posting them here, but the description is probably good enough.  Some bright internet comic already took that picture of Al Baghdadi looking quizzical and captioned it.  "When did we get a dog?"  I ROFL.   :-)

Offline FiddyBeowulf

  • "Its on, its off, its on, its off." "That is called blinking, boys."
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5271
  • Reputation: +523/-34
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2019, 08:30:02 AM »
Quote
Mystery sage (211 posts)

4. Agreed

Also"
Baghdadi had already relinquished operational control."

Meaning all they killed was The equivalent of a CEO who sold/gave all all his assets or a mentor who has retired that ISIS could reach.


Should've tried to get him alive as hard as that would have been.
"That idea is comforting, but it isn't rooted in reality."
The military just whacked the next guy in line too.
Fire...BAD!!! - John Fetterman


The policies that are indorsed by this party, that they backer of which are much of the 1 percent, causes a social structure much like the one back before the Revolution.

-Words of wisdom from Lady Freedom Returns

"Arguing with liberals...it's like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it's victorious." -- Anonymous

"A hat should be taken off when you greet a lady and left off for the rest of your life. Nothing looks more stupid than a hat." - P. J. O'Rourke

Offline SVPete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25821
  • Reputation: +2211/-242
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2019, 08:46:08 AM »
Al Baghdadi and his would-be successor are dead ... could we have more "disasters" like that?
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline 67 Rover

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5744
  • Reputation: +1211/-41
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2019, 11:22:23 AM »
Al Baghdadi and his would-be successor are dead ... could we have more "disasters" like that?

Damn it! Killing ISIS leaders is just a recruitment tool.  :o
NRA Benefactor member
G.O.A. Life member
G.O.A.L. Life member
Certified Law Enforcement Sig Armorer

Offline Skul

  • Sometimes I drink water just to surprise my liver
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12475
  • Reputation: +914/-179
  • Chief of the cathouse
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2019, 09:13:08 PM »
Quote

Quote

Mystery sage (211 posts) 

4. Agreed
*snip*

Should've tried to get him alive as hard as that would have been.

Absolutely!!  That way we could let the dog make the kill.  :yahoo:
Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”

Offline SVPete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 25821
  • Reputation: +2211/-242
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2019, 10:00:02 PM »
Quote
Mystery sage (211 posts)

4. Agreed
...
Should've tried to get him alive as hard as that would have been.

Should've shot the bomb out of his hand like they do in movies and on TV!
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

Offline 67 Rover

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5744
  • Reputation: +1211/-41
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2019, 07:26:06 AM »
Absolutely!!  That way we could let the dog make the kill.  :yahoo:

Uh Oh!  How long before the socialists realize that a dog is a weapon of war.  We are already forced to register our dogs now it  is just a matter of going door to door.
NRA Benefactor member
G.O.A. Life member
G.O.A.L. Life member
Certified Law Enforcement Sig Armorer

Offline BadCat

  • I H8 Liberals
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3628
  • Reputation: +626/-81
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2019, 09:16:00 AM »
Uh Oh!  How long before the socialists realize that a dog is a weapon of war.  We are already forced to register our dogs now it  is just a matter of going door to door.

My dog would love it if one of them showed up at my door.
Help keep America beautiful...deface a liberal.

The Democrat and Republican parties are simply the left and right wings of the same bird of prey.

The road to freedom is paved with dead liberals.

21fadb4221652b86382c8f73526880b7

Offline 67 Rover

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5744
  • Reputation: +1211/-41
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2019, 09:19:56 AM »
My dog would love it if one of them showed up at my door.

High capacity, Kevlar vest defeating, assault doggo!!! :cheersmate:
NRA Benefactor member
G.O.A. Life member
G.O.A.L. Life member
Certified Law Enforcement Sig Armorer

Offline Skul

  • Sometimes I drink water just to surprise my liver
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12475
  • Reputation: +914/-179
  • Chief of the cathouse
Re: Sorry, but the raid was a disaster.
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2019, 12:22:50 PM »
High capacity, Kevlar vest defeating, assault doggo with bayonet lug and grenade launcher!!!  :cheersmate:
Fixered right on up. :-)
Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”