« on: March 14, 2008, 01:57:22 PM »
undeterred (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-10-08 01:00 PM
Original message
Poll question: Is there such a thing as men's rights when it comes to abortion?
Edited on Mon Mar-10-08 01:06 PM by undeterred
Poll result (241 votes)
No (136 votes, 56%) Vote
No but there should be (32 votes, 13%) Vote
No and anyone who thinks there should be is a pig (3 votes, 1%) Vote
Yes they have the right to use a condom or abstain (50 votes, 21%) Vote
No but the father should be informed (7 votes, 3%) Vote
Other (13 votes, 5%) Vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2982607&mesg_id=2982607It's a good size fire but strangely, full of the lowest of the low in primitive land. At least from what I could see.
the buggy one makes an appearance -
mike_c (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-10-08 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #49
53. see #51-- women can't have it both ways....
Rather than speaking about who has rights over who's body, I think it's also a matter of who has rights over who's reproductive opportunities. If it is true that male partners have no rights over their female partners' bodies, then it's also true that female partners have no rights regarding where male partners seek their reproductive opportunities, i.e. whom they share sperm with.
Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-10-08 01:07 PM
Response to Original message
15. Men can't die in childbirth. n/t
This thread/poll made it to wizbang and they managed to capture some common sense before it apparently got flushed -
One person challenged the DU abortion gospel:
TheWraith: The right to at the very least talk to someone and try to persuade them to a different course isn't a violation of anybody's rights, and pretending like the woman in this scenario is some weak-willed moron incapable of taking dissenting opinions is mommy-knows-best protectionism at its worst.
By the way, you both seem to operate on the implicit idea that getting pregnant is something nasty that men do to women, and that women are powerless to stop--conveniently forgetting that women have several times more contraceptive options than men do. Try giving the women you're talking about measures of credit and responsibility as well as sympathy. In case anybody forgot, it takes two people to make babies. The idea that maybe both sides of that interaction should at least have input on the final decision is not unreasonable.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2008, 02:00:17 PM by DixieBelle »
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