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Title: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Linda on September 16, 2013, 07:48:28 AM


Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard

http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/275063/158/Police-responding-to-shooting-at-Navy-Yard

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WASHINGTON (WUSA9) -- Police are on their way to the scene of a reported multiple shooting at Navy Yard.

A police official says they received the report at 8:26 a.m.  They are headed to 8th and M St. SE.

The official says they do not know how many people may have been shot.

Fire and emergency crews are also responding to the scene.

 
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Flufferlie on September 16, 2013, 08:38:18 AM
Watching it on fox now.
Has to be terrorism.

Oh I shouldn't have said that....it's really "workplace violence".

My prayers are going out to all the victims and families.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Linda on September 16, 2013, 08:40:38 AM
The story changes by the min. Joe Biden suggested a shotgun over an assault type weapon....I guess this guy took the advice
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: debk on September 16, 2013, 08:57:25 AM
Watching it on Fox now. Shooter is in a building full of people.... reports are several victims, and some are dead....  :(
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Flufferlie on September 16, 2013, 08:59:01 AM
Flights are now restricted in DC.
My gut instinct seems to be spot on yet again...
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 09:13:49 AM
DEVELOPING: A gunman has fired three shots at a Navy building in Washington, injuring at least one person, U.S. Navy officials announced Monday.

A police spokesman told The Washington Post that a D.C. police officer was shot near the room where a lone gunman has barricaded himself after allegedly shooting at least three people on the Navy Yard grounds in southeast Washington.

A defense official who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak during an active attack said there were at least several injuries as authorities search for an active shooter.

Police officers are currently on the scene outside the Naval Sea Systems Command Headquarters building, where the shooting was reported. Roughly 3,000 people who work inside the building have been directed to stay in place, Navy officials said.

An FBI spokeswoman said at least one victim was reported. The U.S. Navy also confirmed on Twitter that they're looking for a gunman.

The Washington Post reports that police said at least three, possibly four, people were shot, including the unidentified D.C. police officer. All are in critical condition, authorities told the newspaper.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/16/active-shooter-at-washington-navy-yard/
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 09:21:24 AM
4 killed, 8 injured in a shooting at Washington Navy Yard
 
The shooter is ‘down’ the Navy reported


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/16/police-responding-report-shots-washington-navy-yar/#ixzz2f47dE9jg
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 16, 2013, 09:22:52 AM
I have a bad feeling there are going to many people shot and fatalities. Hope I am very wrong about that.  :( :bawl:
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 09:24:51 AM
Tea Party/NRA/GOP being blamed by DU and the Libtards in 4...3...2...
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Dori on September 16, 2013, 09:31:23 AM
Victims being taken off the roof by helicopter.  Shooter injured and contained but not in custody and still active.  Possibly two shooters.

6 ft. tall male, bald, African-American with an AK47 in dark clothing.

Several wounded and killed.





Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 09:34:53 AM
Victims being taken off the roof by helicopter.  Shooter injured but still active.  6 ft. tall male, bald, African-American with an
AK47 in dark clothing.





Just got another update that there are three shooters involved.  One is wounded and they don't know where the other two are. That is from the WaPo.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DefiantSix on September 16, 2013, 09:35:15 AM
Victims being taken off the roof by helicopter.  Shooter injured but still active.  6 ft. tall male, bald, African-American with an
AK47 in dark clothing.





Wonder how DC gun control laws missed that one...
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Eupher on September 16, 2013, 09:38:13 AM
Wonder how DC gun control laws missed that one...

'zackly.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: debk on September 16, 2013, 09:53:26 AM
Fox just reported the Marines have just been sent to protect a very close by elementary school.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: thundley4 on September 16, 2013, 10:03:05 AM
Tea Party/NRA/GOP being blamed by DU and the Libtards in 4...3...2...

But the left claim that the TEA party is a bunch of white guys.

If it turns out the black shooter is a Muslim, then it will be called workplace violence.  If by chance he is a black conservative, then they will call it terrorism.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on September 16, 2013, 10:08:15 AM
How the media will report it:

Victims being taken off the roof by helicopter.  Shooter injured and contained but not in custody and still active.  Possibly two shooters.

6 ft. tall male, bald, white African-American Tea Party member with an AK47, a Chick-Fil-A sandwich, and an advance copy of Rush's new book in dark clothing a white robe and hood.

Several wounded and killed.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Flufferlie on September 16, 2013, 10:23:40 AM
Fox confirms 2 shooters
Title: Re: Re: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DLR Pyro on September 16, 2013, 10:31:34 AM
Wonder how DC gun control laws missed that one...
I heard a report that the office complex where the shooting is taking place is deemed a "gun free zone".
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Airwolf on September 16, 2013, 10:40:25 AM
Somedays it's good to not have TV to watch. Prayers to the victims and I hope the shooter enjoys his time in Hell since they are now reporting that one of them is dead. If there are any more shooters they can join him.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 16, 2013, 10:41:10 AM
I heard a report that the office complex where the shooting is taking place is deemed a "gun free zone".

Where else but a gun free zone can you hope to maximize the number of victims at minimal risk to yourself.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Dori on September 16, 2013, 10:44:37 AM
AP reporting that one shooter is dead, waiting confirmation.

Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 11:48:35 AM
CBS is reporting the one confirmed (and dead) shooter is a retired Naval officer.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: marv on September 16, 2013, 12:07:11 PM
Tweets...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/grid/local/washington-navy-yard-shooting/
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Chris_ on September 16, 2013, 12:35:07 PM
‘I’ve Never Heard of Such a Thing Happening’: CNN Anchor Blanks on Ft. Hood Shooting (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ive-never-heard-of-such-a-thing-happening-cnn-anchor-blanks-on-ft-hood-shooting/)

 :thatsright:
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 01:13:37 PM
2:10pm - Police request people stay in their homes due to suspects still on the loose.

2:09pm - DC police again announce they are looking for two suspects: White male, tan military uniform, consistent with navy uniform. Black make between 40 and 50; gray sideburns, 140 pounds.

2:08pm: DC police and mayor confirm 12 fatalities. Numerous others injured. Headline of this post has been changed to reflect that.


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/16/Report-12-shot-washington-navy-yard-shooting
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 01:16:20 PM
2:14pm - DC police say FBI now taking charge of investigation. Next briefing will occur at 4pm ET.

2:13pm - DC police say they are still searching buildings looking for victims.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 01:31:36 PM
2:23pm - NBC's Pete Williams reports that the man who was misidentified as the shooter by NBC and CBS is now being interviewed by police to ascertain why his ID was found on the shooter.

2:21pm - Holmes-Norton says "all the loose guns in DC" mean that you don't need a terrorist to commit an act like the Navy Yard shooting.

2:19pm  - Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) says we haven't seen a day like this since 9-11. Reports that their will be a moment of silence in Congress for the victims.


Holmes-Norton is an oxygen thief of the highest order.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 01:33:53 PM
2:28pm NBC 4 IDs shooter as 34 year-old Texas man who stole ID.

2:28pm - BuzzFeed Politics attempts to make NRA part of the story.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 16, 2013, 01:42:23 PM
2:28pm NBC 4 IDs shooter as 34 year-old Texas man who stole ID.

2:28pm - BuzzFeed Politics attempts to make NRA part of the story.

I cannot help wonder if this is a terrorist attack.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 01:43:36 PM
I cannot help wonder if this is a terrorist attack.

IMO we're all wondering that.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 01:44:29 PM
2:39pm - Per Pete Williams shooter is Aaron Alexis of Fort Worth Texas who just started working for the Navy as a civilian contractor. Still, he used the ID card of someone else who had recently been demoted, so badge was still working.

2:37pm - Police want people to call 1-800-CALL-FBI with tips on two suspects still at large. A black man,  40-50 years old in olive drab military uniform. Also a white man in tan khaki Navy uniform wearing a beret.

Police stress that suspects might not be in military; just dressed
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 16, 2013, 01:45:53 PM
2:28pm NBC 4 IDs shooter as 34 year-old Texas man who stole ID.

2:28pm - BuzzFeed Politics attempts to make NRA part of the story.

Just heard on NBC 4, one of the person of interest is not one of the killer.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Dori on September 16, 2013, 01:54:35 PM
2:28pm - BuzzFeed Politics attempts to make NRA part of the story.

A black man in DC a member of the NRA?  What are the odds.  :whatever:

Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Chris_ on September 16, 2013, 01:56:35 PM
A black man in DC a member of the NRA?  What are the odds.  :whatever:
I bet he voted for Holmes-Norton.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 16, 2013, 02:20:19 PM
Live streaming video coverage. Shows people leaving.
http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/09/washington-navy-yard-shooting-injures-several-people-94074.html
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Dori on September 16, 2013, 02:24:24 PM
Shooter's name is Aaron Alexis, thirties from Ft. Worth TX.  May have been a contractor doing work for Navy.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 02:32:46 PM
A black man in DC a member of the NRA?  What are the odds.  :whatever:

Looks like someone took Sarah Silverman's suggestion of a "Black NRA" seriously.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 16, 2013, 02:35:18 PM
Looks like someone took Sarah Silverman's suggestion of a "Black NRA" seriously.

Hey, they need some way to blame the killings on the guns and not the black men.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 16, 2013, 02:36:06 PM
Shooter's name is Aaron Alexis, thirties from Ft. Worth TX.  May have been a contractor doing work for Navy.

He had a LinkedIn page, which is now deleted. Attended Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University.

Aaron Alexis' Fort Worth Arrest Report
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Aaron-Alexis-Fort-Worth-Arrest-Report-223953911.html

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On Saturday 09-04-10 at approximately 1849 hrs I, Officer M Medders 3835 working W237, was dispatched to an apt complex, Orion at Oak Hill Apts, at 2450 Oak Hill Rd in reference to a shots fired call. The details of the call stated "CP STS SHE HEARD A 'POP'  & SAW SMOKE & DUST; NOW SEES THAT THERE IS A HOLE IN HER FLOOR & ANOTHER IN HER CEILING; BELIEVES SOMEONE JUST SHOT INTO HER APT; DID NOT SEE ANYTHING OR ANYONE; CP HAS MOVED AWAY FROM AREA WHERE HOLES ARE; CONTACT CP". Upon arrival I met with the witness who was inside her apt and visibly shaken up.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 03:17:07 PM
4:00pm - Good news: MedStar Washington Hospital Center says two of three victims are in surgery, but will recover. Third will not require surgery, and is also expected to fully recover. They do not expect any more patients from the scene.

3:58pm - Daily Beast has already run an op-ed by David Frum using today's mass shooting as reason to argue in favor of restricting American's Second Amendment rights.

3:54pm - CNN just "broke" the news identifying the shooter as Aaron Alexis, more than an hour after other outlets broke the news.

3:40pm - AP speculates that the the dead shooter is from Texas, has "a criminal record there and to be a holder of a concealed carry weapon permit."

3:36pm - NBC 4 reports the dead shooter, Aaron Alexis, was arrested in 2010 for illegally discharging a firearm.

3:23pm - Breitbart editor-in-chief Joel Pollak writes: "I have spent some time at the Navy Yard, observing a military trial when I was in law school. The compound is large and well-guarded, and an important landmark in southeast Washington, DC. Navy personnel take security very seriously and consider each separate building to be a "ship"--i.e. stairwells are referred to as "ladders," and so on. The Navy Yard has a long and storied history and it is terrible to know that it has now been marred by such a terrible event."

3:10pm - NBC 4 says security video shows shooter entering building with a shotgun. Police believe he might have stolen a semi-automatic 9MM pistol from the first security guard he shot with the shotgun. He then might have shot another guard who would have responded carrying a AR-15 assault rifle, and then the shooter grabbed and used that. This is all speculative; what the media is reporting what the police are investigating.

3:10pm - DC Nationals cancel tonight's game. Rescheduled for tomorrow afternoon.

3:07pm - Earlier this morning on CNN, anchor Carol Costello apparently forgot about the 2009 Fort Hood massacre. "This seems so unusual to me that a gunman could create this kind of havoc at a U.S. military facility," Costello said. She then asked, "Have you ever heard of it happening before, Brian?"
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 16, 2013, 03:22:40 PM
4:20pm -- DC Mayor Vice Gray updates death toll to 13, including shooter.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Chris_ on September 16, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
The Daily Beast is Newsweek's latest online incarnation. 

**** them.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 16, 2013, 03:29:02 PM
Aaron Alexis, 34, is dead gunman in Navy Yard shooting, authorities say
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/aaron-alexis-34-is-dead-gunman-in-navy-yard-shooting-authorities-say/2013/09/16/dcf431ce-1f07-11e3-8459-657e0c72fec8_story.html

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Alexis lived in Seattle and in Fort Worth, Texas, according to public records. He appears to have served in the Navy, but it is unclear whether he was still on active duty.

Police are investigating whether the identification of former Navy petty officer Rollie Chance was used by Alexis to enter the Navy Yard compound. Federal investigators visited Chance’s home Monday.

A relative of Rollie Chance said in a telephone interview that Chance, from Stafford, Va., was not at the Navy Yard and was neither a witness nor a suspect and asked the media to leave the family alone.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DefiantSix on September 16, 2013, 03:29:47 PM
2:21pm - Holmes-Norton says "all the loose guns in DC" mean that you don't need a terrorist to commit an act like the Navy Yard shooting.

2:19pm  - Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-DC) says we haven't seen a day like this since 9-11. Reports that their will be a moment of silence in Congress for the victims.


Holmes-Norton is an oxygen thief of the highest order.

Takes a speshul breed of stoopid to ignore something that obvious when it's publicly biting you in the ass...

 :facepalm2:
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Tess Anderson on September 16, 2013, 05:02:43 PM
LOL, this shooter really wasn't as "Texas man".  He lived in Brooklyn, then Maryland previously.

(http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/aaron-alexis/status-image.jpg?scale=image_thumb)


NRA/teabagger nutjob.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: mrclose on September 16, 2013, 05:19:03 PM
Just curious .. Not implying anything here! :???:

If it turns out that this mass killing was not related to Muslims .. How many 'blacks' did the black guy kill?

(http://i41.tinypic.com/i3i42g.jpg)
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: biersmythe on September 16, 2013, 05:19:22 PM
Firstly prayers for the service men's families involved and effected by this..... May he rot in hell tonight for this coward's act!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Dori on September 16, 2013, 06:06:30 PM
He was in the Navy for five years as an electrician.  No overseas duty. Left in 2011, didn't like getting up early.  Was a Buddhist and went to visit Thailand after working in a Thai restaurant. Landlord described him as well behaved and calm.

Sounds like a nut case to me. 


Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 16, 2013, 09:28:16 PM
Alleged Washington shooter served as Navy reservist, may have recently lost job
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/16/20527513-alleged-washington-shooter-served-as-navy-reservist-may-have-recently-lost-job?lite

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Authorities said they believe that Alexis then picked up two other weapons — a handgun and an AR-15-style assault weapon — during the shooting spree, taking the sidearm from a police officer he shot and another from a gunsafe or other secure location.

Looks like the AR-15 and pistol were stolen before the killing spree.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 16, 2013, 10:12:24 PM
Suspected U.S. shooter had 'secret' clearance, employer says
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/suspected-u-shooter-had-secret-clearance-employer-says-010927653.html

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Aaron Alexis, the 34-year-old suspect in Monday's shooting rampage at the Washington Navy Yard, had "secret" clearance and was assigned to start working there as a civilian contractor with a military-issued ID card, his firm's chief executive told Reuters.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: thundley4 on September 17, 2013, 09:10:21 AM
Would someone explain why the killer and other employees like him aren't put through tighter screenings when entering the complex?  Just show his badge and stroll in without passing through a metal detector or having his bags searched?

Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DefiantSix on September 17, 2013, 09:19:54 AM
Would someone explain why the killer and other employees like him aren't put through tighter screenings when entering the complex?  Just show his badge and stroll in without passing through a metal detector or having his bags searched?



Because, for all intents and purposes, DoD as a whole puts rent-a-cops on gate duty.  In reality though, this guy probably badged through an electronically-controlled turnstyle and never disturbed the somnolence of the guard at that gate.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: thundley4 on September 17, 2013, 10:37:04 AM
Because, for all intents and purposes, DoD as a whole puts rent-a-cops on gate duty.  In reality though, this guy probably badged through an electronically-controlled turnstyle and never disturbed the somnolence of the guard at that gate.

That's my point. Lax security seems to be a major issue.  At the S8G training facility in Ballston Spa, we had to go through a metal detector and all bags were scanned.  That was for everyone, students and the trainers, both civilian and military. I think everyone there had passed a background check, too.

 That was pre 911.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 17, 2013, 10:41:23 AM
Because, for all intents and purposes, DoD as a whole puts rent-a-cops on gate duty.  In reality though, this guy probably badged through an electronically-controlled turnstyle and never disturbed the somnolence of the guard at that gate.

I would think any military related installation would be heavily secured period. No matter what. People would have to go through multiple security levels. Since, this is the military, I would expect all soldiers would carry guns and military bases would not be gun free. I know that changed under Clinton.

Getting a security clearance would be very difficult and anyone with an arrest would have a harder time or not even get it, like Aaron Alexis. I know he does not have a criminal record despite being arrest a couple of times. I have to wonder how Alexis got the security clearance.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DefiantSix on September 17, 2013, 10:56:51 AM
I would think any military related installation would be heavily secured period. People would have to go through multiple security levels.

I would think getting a security clearance would be very difficult and anyone with an arrest would not get it, like Aaron Alexis. I know he does not have a criminal record despite being arrest a couple of times.

Have yourself another think, Ptarmy. :cheersmate:

When I worked for the Naval Shipyard, so long as I had my badge out and displayed properly, and I looked like I knew where I was and what I was doing, I could get just about anywhere on base. Heck, even earlier than that, when I was but a wee pizza delivery lad, I was only one gate away from the actual ballistic missile subs at the Bangor Submarine Base most of the time. Were I of nefarious character :whistling: I could have taken advantage of the security situation in any number of ways, and I would have been far too deep inside the perimeter to have been stopped in any kind of timely manner. 

This is not to say that the security folks aren't on top of things: while I was at the shipyard, they disappeared at least one scuba diver a month into the bowels of NID for being caught inside the security perimeter (usually with a camera, and usually just after a major combatant had come in for a refit) as one example where they were on top of things.  All I'm saying is that most CONUS military bases are far to big an area for the security force regularly and normally employed on those bases to do anything but respond after the fact.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Dori on September 17, 2013, 11:27:02 AM
Sounds like there was a breakdown all the way through.  The shooter has recently been treated for PTSD, paranoia, hearing things and he was a heavy drinker.  He had recently become a Buddhist and his friends were from Thailand.  No American friends.  He was also addicted to video war games.

His MO is starting to have a lot of similarities to all the other recent wacked out mass murderers.

How he was able to get the security clearance he had is a mystery.   
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 17, 2013, 12:58:19 PM
Because, for all intents and purposes, DoD as a whole puts rent-a-cops on gate duty.  In reality though, this guy probably badged through an electronically-controlled turnstyle and never disturbed the somnolence of the guard at that gate.

That and the fact the shooter is black.  Like with Nidal...there is a fear of raising any red flags against anyone of color for fear of being branded a racist and having your career ended by a baseless EO complaint.

The current culture of "equality" and what does and doesn't justify an EO complaint in the military has become so hair trigger people are scared to do the right thing.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: zeitgeist on September 17, 2013, 03:01:30 PM
Have yourself another think, Ptarmy. :cheersmate:

When I worked for the Naval Shipyard, so long as I had my badge out and displayed properly, and I looked like I knew where I was and what I was doing, I could get just about anywhere on base. Heck, even earlier than that, when I was but a wee pizza delivery lad, I was only one gate away from the actual ballistic missile subs at the Bangor Submarine Base most of the time. Were I of nefarious character :whistling: I could have taken advantage of the security situation in any number of ways, and I would have been far too deep inside the perimeter to have been stopped in any kind of timely manner. 

This is not to say that the security folks aren't on top of things: while I was at the shipyard, they disappeared at least one scuba diver a month into the bowels of NID for being caught inside the security perimeter (usually with a camera, and usually just after a major combatant had come in for a refit) as one example where they were on top of things.  All I'm saying is that most CONUS military bases are far to big an area for the security force regularly and normally employed on those bases to do anything but respond after the fact.


 :werd:

I have been on a fair number of SY's and Bases over the years and have seen security change dramatically.  CAC's were just coming in as I was leaving in 07 as was NMCI. The company this guy worked for was most likely a sub contractor under the NMCI umbrella.  After the Lebanon bombing they began to tighten things up considerably in terms of parking near buildings.  After 9/11 things got even tighter.  I was at Puget just a few months before 9/11.  CAC cards were the next new magic bullet in DATA security. (or at least that was the line pushed by NAVSEA and the company selling the goods).  Yeah right.  Next it will be biometrics.  And it will be billed as better than sliced bread, can't fail technology, so simple to use even my dear Aunt Sally couldn't mess up.

Washington Naval Base IIRC was a rehab project because NAVSEA was spending boatloads of cash on rented space.  I seem to recall there was some real resistance at being forced out of the comfortable 'burbs into the belly of the DC Beast.  Then it became cool to be urban again as long as you were out of DC before dark.

Also, there is considerable difference between a Base which does refueling and one that just does planning.  Big difference.  During refueling you get Jarheads with fully automatic M16's or whatever the current battle weapon and even the rent-a-cops know enough to freeze when some pimple faced kid holding one says freeze. 
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 17, 2013, 07:23:30 PM
Ain't this interesting!

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FRIEND: Navy Yard Shooter Liberal, Supported Obama

by John Nolte 17 Sep 2013, 1:50 PM PDT  1593 post a comment

Tuesday, on CNN's "The Lead with Jake Tapper," Michael Ritrovato spoke at length about his friend, suspected Navy Yard shooter Aaron Alexis. After expressing his condolences to the victims and their families, Ritrovato then expressed his shock over the actions of a man he described as being "like a brother to me" and a "good-natured guy."

Ritrovato went on to explain that two of them had a close relationship based in part on their differences, specifically race and politics. Alexis was black, Ritrovato is white. Ritrovato described himself as conservative and Alexis is "more of a liberal type" who supported Barack Obama:
 
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I would say things like, 'You know, you are my brother from another mother.' And he would say things like, 'You're my Italian mafia guy from New York.' So we had things we joked about: Aaron wasn't conservative like I am. He was more of a liberal type; he wasn't happy with the former [Bush] administration. He was more happy with this [the Obama] administration -- as far as presidential administrations.

The last two paragraphs of the story are here:  http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/17/Navy-Yard-Shooter-friend-Describes%20Alexis-as-liberal-Obama-fan

Imagine that--a 'fellow traveller' of the DUmmies! ::) :whatever: :whistling:
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 17, 2013, 09:35:06 PM
Ain't this interesting!


The last two paragraphs of the story are here:  http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/17/Navy-Yard-Shooter-friend-Describes%20Alexis-as-liberal-Obama-fan

Imagine that--a 'fellow traveller' of the DUmmies! ::) :whatever: :whistling:

Not surprised. There is also this.

Navy Yard shooter Aaron Alexis was 'not happy with America,' friend says
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/17/20542864-navy-yard-shooter-aaron-alexis-was-not-happy-with-america-friend-says?lite

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FORT WORTH, Texas — Aaron Alexis was so unhappy with his life in America — where he was beset by money woes and felt slighted as a veteran — that he was "ready to move out of the country" last year, a friend said Tuesday.

"He was tired of dealing with the government," said Kristi Suthamtewkal, whose husband owns the Thai Bowl Restaurant in Fort Worth, where Alexis worked in exchange for room and board.

But instead of leaving the U.S., the former Navy reservist relocated from Texas to Virginia, where an IT company called The Experts put him on a government contract at the Washington Navy Yard.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Chris_ on September 17, 2013, 10:59:48 PM
Police warned Navy about gunman's mental instability 6 weeks ago, report says (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/17/navy-yard-shooter-heard-voices-through-walls-thought-people-sending-vibrations)
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DLR Pyro on September 17, 2013, 11:27:55 PM
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Alexis is "more of a liberal type" who supported Barack Obama

suck it DUmmies.  He's one of yours with no ties to the NRA or TEA party.

:ownit:
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: thundley4 on September 17, 2013, 11:50:13 PM
Police warned Navy about gunman's mental instability 6 weeks ago, report says (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/17/navy-yard-shooter-heard-voices-through-walls-thought-people-sending-vibrations)

They ignored it because he was black and to not ignore the warning would have been racist.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Chris_ on September 17, 2013, 11:52:28 PM
They ignored it because he was black and to not ignore the warning would have been racist.
Isn't that what the Army did with Hassan?

Yeah, that's what I thought.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 18, 2013, 12:33:13 AM
Ain't this interesting!


The last two paragraphs of the story are here:  http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/17/Navy-Yard-Shooter-friend-Describes%20Alexis-as-liberal-Obama-fan

Imagine that--a 'fellow traveller' of the DUmmies! ::) :whatever: :whistling:

What's his DU name?
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DefiantSix on September 18, 2013, 12:37:27 AM
What's his DU name?

Other than the DainBramaged one, do we have any DUmmies who are AWOL from the Island?
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 18, 2013, 01:02:37 AM
Other than the DainBramaged one, do we have any DUmmies who are AWOL from the Island?

Has One Strong Black Man or whatever his screen name is been seen lately?

What about Mr. Dorkio?
Title: Re: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DLR Pyro on September 18, 2013, 11:30:40 AM
There are reports that the shooter was unhappy with America. Perhaps if the dumb ass hadn't supported obama his view of America would have been a little brighter. :ownit:
Title: Re: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: obumazombie on September 18, 2013, 12:28:44 PM
There are reports that the shooter was unhappy with America. Perhaps if the dumb ass hadn't supported obama his view of America would have been a little brighter. :ownit:
Up until rodeowebuma's election the wookieyeti was unhappy with America. Even after I'm not so sure.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DefiantSix on September 18, 2013, 03:40:37 PM
Who's up for another Bengazi-style cover-up? :thatsright: :banghead:

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Report: Heavily Armed Tactical Team Ordered to Stand Down During Navy Yard Shooting (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/18/report-heavily-armed-tactical-team-ordered-to-stand-down-during-navy-yard-shooting/)
Sep. 18, 2013 3:54pm | Jason Howerton

Multiple sources are telling the BBC that a tactical response team ready to respond to Monday’s deadly shooting in Washington, D.C. was ordered to stand down by superiors. The heavily armed team was reportedly one of the first available to aid municipal officers on the scene.

The gunman, 34-year-old Aaron Alexis, went on to kill 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard.

The Capitol Police Department is reportedly pulling radio logs from Monday morning to investigate exactly what happened.

<snip>

TheBlaze (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/18/report-heavily-armed-tactical-team-ordered-to-stand-down-during-navy-yard-shooting/)

The more this case develops, the more it stinks to high heaven, IMHO...
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: thundley4 on September 18, 2013, 03:58:00 PM
I had read another story about marine guards stationed there that had weapons, but no ammo. True or not, I don't know.  This administration is so corrupt that anything is possible.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DLR Pyro on September 18, 2013, 04:07:57 PM
I had read another story about marine guards stationed there that had weapons, but no ammo. True or not, I don't know.  This administration is so corrupt that anything is possible.
if true, that is appalling. Even Barney Fife got to carry one bullet on him.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: catsmtrods on September 19, 2013, 04:57:28 AM
I have been away fishing and don't do the news when I do that. So it looks like another mental case libtard that had a neon warning sign on his head went on a shooting spree in yet another gun free zone!  Its becoming apparent that's the MO of these shootings. So we better cut mental health care and ban more guns. Yeah, that's the ticket!! :banghead:
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: biersmythe on September 19, 2013, 09:41:20 AM
I have been away fishing and don't do the news when I do that. So it looks like another mental case libtard that had a neon warning sign on his head went on a shooting spree in yet another gun free zone!  Its becoming apparent that's the MO of these shootings. So we better cut mental health care and SO WE CAN ban more guns. Yeah, that's the ticket!! :banghead:  :-)

Fixed it for ya....that is what I think is going on. And NO i did buy any tin foil of late. :-)
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 19, 2013, 10:21:17 AM
Family recounts chilling airport encounter with Navy gunman
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/19/family-recounts-chilling-airport-encounter-with-navy-gunman/

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EXCLUSIVE: An Alabama family recounted to FoxNews.com a chilling airport encounter they had last month with the man they believe went on to gun down 12 people at a Washington military facility, and said the confrontation was triggered by the hearty laugh of a 75-year-old matriarch.

“We were just laughing and talking and he came over and said we were laughing at him,” Rosalind Baugh told FoxNews.com, speaking of Aaron Alexis, the troubled former Navy Reservist and government contractor who went on a shooting spree in the Naval Sea Systems Command headquarters in southeast Washington Monday.

Since the shooting, in which Alexis was killed by police, several reports have surfaced about his anti-social behavior, mental problems and record of arrests for gun offenses. As soon as he was identified as the shooter, Baugh and other family members present at Norfolk Airport for the Aug. 4 incident have been reliving the frightening encounter daily.

That is a red flag right there.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 19, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
Ptarmy, he sounds like a typical OWS-type, actually.  I posted a story similar to D6's in the Shoutbox, chiefly because I didn't look here. :o
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 19, 2013, 10:30:08 AM
Ptarmy, he sounds like a typical OWS-type, actually.  I posted a story similar to D6's in the Shoutbox, chiefly because I didn't look here. :o

He is an Obama supporter. The Occupy Wall Street came back for their anniversary.

Occupy Wall Street activists mark 2nd anniversary
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/17/occupy-wall-street-anniversary/2828197/

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NEW YORK (AP) — About 100 members of Occupy Wall Street returned Tuesday to the small plaza near the New York Stock Exchange that once teemed with thousands of people protesting financial inequality, marking the second anniversary of their movement's beginnings.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Linda on September 19, 2013, 10:30:32 AM
Navy Yard shooter etched messages into shotgun used in massacre

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57603572/navy-yard-shooter-etched-messages-into-shotgun-used-in-massacre/

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Sources say Aaron Alexis left behind two short phrases on the side of the shotgun used in the Washington Navy Yard massacre.

One of the messages scratched into the gun's metal reads, "Better off this way." The other is more cryptic: "My ELF weapon."


And they still have no idea why he did this....I wonder if those 12 families will ever get answers?
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 19, 2013, 10:35:07 AM
Navy Yard shooter etched messages into shotgun used in massacre

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57603572/navy-yard-shooter-etched-messages-into-shotgun-used-in-massacre/


And they still have no idea why he did this....I wonder if those 12 families will ever get answers?


Probably never. I do suspect he targeted the DC Naval Yard because he was in the Navy and was discharged because of his arrests. I think he was retaliation for his discharge.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DLR Pyro on September 19, 2013, 11:56:22 AM
Probably never. I do suspect he targeted the DC Naval Yard because he was in the Navy and was discharged because of his arrests. I think he was retaliation for his discharge.
Typical libtard mentality.  clearly he took no personal responsibility for his actions that lead to his discharge.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: olde north church on September 19, 2013, 12:50:06 PM
He is an Obama supporter. The Occupy Wall Street came back for their anniversary.

Occupy Wall Street activists mark 2nd anniversary
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/17/occupy-wall-street-anniversary/2828197/


OWS=boyking
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: zeitgeist on September 19, 2013, 01:49:09 PM
Absent an AK 47 or AR 15 we are now beginning to see Tactical Shotgun.  Is there no end to the limits journalists will go to in sensationalizing a story.  Obliviously not.  :whistling:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DLR Pyro on September 19, 2013, 03:14:31 PM
Absent an AK 47 or AR 15 we are now beginning to see Tactical Shotgun.  Is there no end to the limits journalists will go to in sensationalizing a story.  Obliviously not.  :whistling:
sort of like how the phrase white hispanic poped up after St. trayvon was shot for being a ghetto thug.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 19, 2013, 03:33:55 PM
Shooter may have been Muslim.....recent convert maybe....still a crazy SOB.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/18/20556773-navy-yard-gunmans-mother-says-she-is-heartbroken-and-sorry-for-families?lite

"Law enforcement officials told NBC News that Alexis created a webpage with the name "Mohammed Salem," but they said he never did anything with it. They said they had found nothing else that might indicate any interest in violent jihad or even in Islam."
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Linda on September 19, 2013, 03:56:27 PM
Here are the victims:


Those killed were:

Michael Arnold, 59, of Lorton, Va.;
Sylvia Frasier, 53, of Waldorf, Md.;
Kathy Gaarde, 62, of Woodbridge, Va.;
John Roger Johnson, 73, of Derwood, Md.;
Frank Kohler, 50, of Tall Timbers, Md.;
Kenneth Bernard Proctor, 46, of Waldorf, Md.;
Vishnu Shalchendia Pandit, 61, of North Potomac, Md.;
Arthur Daniels, 51, of Washington, D.C.;
Mary Francis Knight, 51, of Reston, Va.;
Gerald L. Read, 58, of Alexandria, Va.;
Martin Bodrog, 54, of Annandale, Va.;
and
Richard Michael Ridgell, 52, of Westminster, Md.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/17/20539891-a-hole-that-just-will-never-be-filled-portraits-of-the-navy-yard-victims?lite

The above link tells a little about each of the victims.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 19, 2013, 10:42:29 PM
Typical libtard mentality.  clearly he took no personal responsibility for his actions that lead to his discharge.

He should of not committed any crimes while in the Navy. I wonder how he managed to join the Navy when he had PTSD already.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: DefiantSix on September 19, 2013, 10:46:07 PM
He should of not committed any crimes while in the Navy. I wonder how he managed to join the Navy when he had PTSD already.

Recruiting station a little short on it's quota that week?   :shucks:
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 20, 2013, 03:06:14 AM
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"My ELF weapon."

ELF?  Earth Liberation Front?
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 20, 2013, 03:07:55 AM
He should of not committed any crimes while in the Navy. I wonder how he managed to join the Navy when he had PTSD already.

Look at his skin color.  I'm telling you that's how he got to where he was and was able to pull off this crime.  Fear of an EO complaint...even a false one and the subsiquent effect on military career has paralyzed just about anyone in the DoD from doing the right thing when they see red flags.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: thundley4 on September 20, 2013, 04:35:07 AM
ELF?  Earth Liberation Front?

That's what I thought, but then the fact that he plays video games made me think it might be otherwise.  A lot of games have elf characters in them.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 20, 2013, 04:46:45 AM
That's what I thought, but then the fact that he plays video games made me think it might be otherwise.  A lot of games have elf characters in them.

LMAO!! So he could be like this instead of an Enviro NAZI?

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jssnqMUQ_s[/youtube]
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Crazy Horse on September 20, 2013, 11:03:26 AM
Here are the victims:


Those killed were:

Michael Arnold, 59, of Lorton, Va.;
Sylvia Frasier, 53, of Waldorf, Md.;
Kathy Gaarde, 62, of Woodbridge, Va.;
John Roger Johnson, 73, of Derwood, Md.;
Frank Kohler, 50, of Tall Timbers, Md.;
Kenneth Bernard Proctor, 46, of Waldorf, Md.;
Vishnu Shalchendia Pandit, 61, of North Potomac, Md.; Arthur Daniels, 51, of Washington, D.C.;
Mary Francis Knight, 51, of Reston, Va.;
Gerald L. Read, 58, of Alexandria, Va.;
Martin Bodrog, 54, of Annandale, Va.;
and
Richard Michael Ridgell, 52, of Westminster, Md.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/17/20539891-a-hole-that-just-will-never-be-filled-portraits-of-the-navy-yard-victims?lite

The above link tells a little about each of the victims.

Kisan will be greatly missed in the Navy Metrology community.  He was a great man :bawl:
Title: Re:
Post by: jtyangel on September 20, 2013, 11:42:15 AM
Kisan will be greatly missed in the Navy Metrology community.  He was a great man :bawl:

"Kisan took great pride in being employed by the United States Navy, which he very proudly served in various capacities as a civilian for over 25 years," according to the statement. "Kisan felt extremely privileged to have contributed to the superiority of the U.S. Navy and the country that he served."


I have no doubt CH after reading this. Americans born and raised here can't manage to muster the same pride as this man who adopted the US as his homeland. RIP sir.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: obumazombie on September 20, 2013, 12:38:16 PM
Still waiting for Hitlery to weigh in with her all important question...

(http://newsbusters.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/frontpage-200/thumbnail_photos/2013/September/Clinton%20Benghazi_0.jpg)

Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Dori on September 20, 2013, 12:39:22 PM
I heard on the news that the same group that did the background checks on Snowden, also did the one on the Navy yard shooter.

 :mad:

Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Chris_ on September 23, 2013, 09:50:58 PM
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Aaron Alexis didn’t report gun arrest during background check, received clearance

Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/aaron-alexis-didnt-report-gun-charge-during-background-check-received-clearance/2013/09/23/ac472dae-248b-11e3-a626-0ae190346c4d_story.html?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost)
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: biersmythe on September 23, 2013, 10:01:04 PM
This is disturbing to me why is this dismiss able?

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A senior Navy official told reporters Monday that there is “no way to know objectively” whether the Navy would have approved Alexis’s security clearance had it known about his gun-related arrest. The official said he did not know whether lying on a security clearance application should have been automatic grounds for rejection. He spoke on the condition of anonymity under rules set by the Navy.

and why not it is a previous offence and should have denied him without question!

Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: txradioguy on September 24, 2013, 02:22:21 AM
This is disturbing to me why is this dismiss able?

and why not it is a previous offence and should have denied him without question!



As I keep saying it's because of skin color.  The militry is paralyized by the fear of an EO complaint if something even as obvious as this gets denied.  Alexis was in the military he knows how tht game is played.  Same thing with Nidal the Ft. Hood shooter.  Look at how many of his superiors knew he was practically promoting Jihad when he was at Walter Reed...and they did nothing.

It's the nature of the EO system in the military...where just a person's "perception" how they feel someone says or does something where they are concerned can be filed as a bias complaint.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: Eupher on September 24, 2013, 10:52:01 AM
As I keep saying it's because of skin color.  The militry is paralyized by the fear of an EO complaint if something even as obvious as this gets denied.  Alexis was in the military he knows how tht game is played.  Same thing with Nidal the Ft. Hood shooter.  Look at how many of his superiors knew he was practically promoting Jihad when he was at Walter Reed...and they did nothing.

It's the nature of the EO system in the military...where just a person's "perception" how they feel someone says or does something where they are concerned can be filed as a bias complaint.

Yup.

The PC shit's been going on for a long, long time. EO Training came out as an aftermath of Vietnam because race relations sucked pretty bad at the time. I've witnessed racially-oriented fights in the chow line and other areas where boom boxes were the rage and not everybody on the planet enjoyed the type of "music" being blasted out of those things.  :whatever:

During the obligatory race relations training, it was trumpeted over and over and over again that the person's "perception" of a comment or behavior was the deciding factor as to whether that comment or behavior was truly offensive.

It didn't take long for the race baiters to use that in a way to further their own agendas.

It's become an art form now. Just look at Al and Jesse.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: biersmythe on September 24, 2013, 06:02:13 PM
Yup.

The PC shit's been going on for a long, long time. EO Training came out as an aftermath of Vietnam because race relations sucked pretty bad at the time. I've witnessed racially-oriented fights in the chow line and other areas where boom boxes were the rage and not everybody on the planet enjoyed the type of "music" being blasted out of those things.  :whatever:

During the obligatory race relations training, it was trumpeted over and over and over again that the person's "perception" of a comment or behavior was the deciding factor as to whether that comment or behavior was truly offensive.

It didn't take long for the race baiters to use that in a way to further their own agendas.

It's become an art form now. Just look at Al and Jesse.

Two truly repulsive human beings....and it was hard to write the human part. Yes I have seen the race baiter's here rile a group into a lather over nothing...quite a shame.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: IassaFTots on September 24, 2013, 08:20:30 PM
Kisan will be greatly missed in the Navy Metrology community.  He was a great man :bawl:

I am sorry for  the loss of your friend, CH.  RIP Kisan.
Title: Re: Police responding to multiple shooting at Navy Yard
Post by: biersmythe on September 24, 2013, 08:39:22 PM
Kisan will be greatly missed in the Navy Metrology community.  He was a great man :bawl:

Jeez how did i miss this Sorry for the loss of your friend......