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Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« on: June 16, 2015, 06:37:41 PM »
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mopinko (44,162 posts)    Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:27 PM

looking for greener insulation.
 
still holding out hope that i will be able to build a little barn on my farm. want to be a model of green building. i have a basement half full of of windows and doors. i know where i can get most all that stuff recycled and very cheap.

anyway, i have been wracking my brain for a green form of insulation. it will have thick walls anyway with reclaimed lumber for the framing.

i refuse to use pink. i know if i dig i can find hemp.

but a thought occurred to my just now, and i wonder what folks think- what about cardboard? cut used cardboard to the width you need, and put in a bunch of layers. i will be finishing the insides w old galvanized roofing.

would also like to come up with something good for insulating the stone walls that will be foundation. hoping to get the stone from said recyclers, who are taking down 2 limestone houses up on the north shore.

they are standardized blocks, 4"x10". so, it would need to be double coursed. maybe i can leave a gap in there and also fill it was several layers of cardboard.

hoping to hit r40-50.

what sez the brain trust?*

eta- mostly it is my steel roof that will need insulation. 

*obviously a reference to us.

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Kali (41,151 posts)    Tue Jun 16, 2015, 12:50 PM

1. Barns don't really need insulation.
 
They need good VENTILATION, but NOT drafty. Other than that, I would say straw/straw bales.

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mopinko (44,162 posts)    Tue Jun 16, 2015, 04:49 PM

2. not an animal barn.
 
its an urban farm, so it is a bit different. i prolly shouldnt even call it a barn, but i lack a better word.

i need it to be insulated enough for a grow space on the second floor. (a half floor, actually)

i will have some baseboard type heat, but hope that it is more occasional back up than full time heat.

the first floor will be a couple parking places and equipment storage, maybe winter some crop storage. maybe some aquaponics. so preferably kept from freezing.

might occasionally have some chickens in there, but mostly not. 
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2015, 06:53:29 PM »
Dear stupid,what you would need if you were not an insane DUmbass is called a greenhouse.

I can`t wait until Chi town bulldozes your rat invested dump flat.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2015, 06:55:20 PM »
Her "green insulation" idea, coupled with baseboard heating, sounds more like "fire hazard" to me.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2015, 06:59:57 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on June 16, 2015, 06:55:20 PM
Her "green insulation" idea, coupled with baseboard heating, sounds more like "fire hazard" to me.
Sounds more like a "grow" operation to me.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2015, 07:09:33 PM »
Mo is a batshit crazy lunatic that the city of Chicago will one day tie up.
There is no "farm"or even a garden,it has a vacant lot that it has turned into a dump.

Very likely was a child abuser and has no family that will even speak to it due to the insanity.
Sooner or later the powers that be will remove its lice and rat infested chicken manure patch right along with the tenement it lives in.

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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2015, 07:17:58 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on June 16, 2015, 06:55:20 PM
Her "green insulation" idea, coupled with baseboard heating, sounds more like "fire hazard" to me.

Shredded newspapers make for good insulation, too.  :naughty:

May her demise be as glorious as it would be brief.   :rotf:

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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2015, 09:26:30 PM »
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what about cardboard? cut used cardboard to the width you need, and put in a bunch of layers.

Quote from: wasp69 on June 16, 2015, 06:55:20 PM
Her "green insulation" idea, coupled with baseboard heating, sounds more like "fire hazard" to me.

Quote from: diesel driver on June 16, 2015, 07:17:58 PM
Shredded newspapers make for good insulation, too.  :naughty:

May her demise be as glorious as it would be brief.   :rotf:

Doesn't matter. Cardboard or newspapers will both draw incredible amounts of insects and other vermin, just like the rest of her property does.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2015, 09:35:15 PM »
High-five to our reigning DUmmy of the Year, Big Mo.

Not one time out of ten is "wracking" spelled properly on the innertubes, but she did it.

Maybe she's an idiot savant and spelling is her thing, because in every other way she's a full-bore DUmp nut.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2015, 09:40:08 PM »
Well, an unauthorized building without a permit should speed her trial right along.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2015, 08:02:31 AM »
Well, as usual, Big Mo's getting more attention and care over here, than over there.

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Here, it's 8 replies, 126 views.

Anyway, carrying on from where the top of the thread left off:

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Kali (41,154 posts)  Tue Jun 16, 2015, 08:55 PM 

3. ah an "out building"
 
not sure about cardboard, what is wrong with fiberglass? I know there are some cellulose products that are supposed to be "green" I would worry about cardboard and moisture.

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Hassin Bin Sober (12,844 posts)    Tue Jun 16, 2015, 11:07 PM

4. What's wrong with the cellulose you can get at Homer's?
 
It's made from recycled paper and treated to be fire resistant. Last I checked they were rening the machine for free if you bought 20 bags.

^^^by default, due to the expulsion of Skippy, the new primitive expert on such issues.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2015, 11:05:22 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on June 16, 2015, 06:59:57 PM
Sounds more like a "grow" operation to me.

That's what it sounds like to me, too. 'Grow space on the second floor' under the sheet metal roof.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2015, 11:10:38 AM »
Like others, her ideas sound more like fire hazard, vermin nesting, and mold-growing opportunities. She could, in principle, have the materials treated, but wouldn't a bunch of chemicals be rather Un-Green?
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2015, 06:54:03 PM »
Use mud dummie. Earth is a fine insulator. Works for the Eskimo people.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2015, 07:32:15 AM »
She should use oily rags. Lots and lots of oily rags.  :fuelfire:
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2015, 09:15:32 AM »
Quote from: FiddyBeowulf on June 18, 2015, 07:32:15 AM
She should use oily rags. Lots and lots of oily rags.  :fuelfire:
Yes , I second that. By cold weather time they should be doing an excellent job of keeping the place warm to down right hot.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2015, 02:05:11 PM »
Quote from: diesel driver on June 16, 2015, 07:17:58 PM
Shredded newspapers make for good insulation, too.  :naughty:

May her demise be as glorious as it would be brief.   :rotf:
It has to be lightly sprayed with Linseed oil for it to work properly.  :fuelfire:
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2015, 06:53:50 AM »
Quote from: Skul on June 19, 2015, 02:05:11 PM
It has to be lightly sprayed with Linseed oil for it to work properly.  :fuelfire:

No, it should be soaked overnight.

I'd recommend used motor oil, it's cheaper, plentiful, and what DUmmie can resist the thought they would be "recycling" it.   :-)
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2015, 06:26:48 PM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on June 17, 2015, 06:54:03 PM
Use mud dummie. Earth is a fine insulator. Works for the Eskimo people.

Chicken litter is great too.
She should have plenty of that.
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2015, 08:57:14 PM »
Quote from: diesel driver on June 21, 2015, 06:53:50 AM
No, it should be soaked overnight.

I'd recommend used motor oil, it's cheaper, plentiful, and what DUmmie can resist the thought they would be "recycling" it.   :-)
I'm old fashioned, DD. the slow oxidation of the linseed oil allows it to combust around 0300.
For a double wammy, she should seal/stain all woodwork, then pile the cleanup rags in the corner. :)
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Re: Big Mo looking for greener insulation
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2015, 06:52:45 PM »
Quote from: Skul on June 21, 2015, 08:57:14 PM
I'm old fashioned, DD. the slow oxidation of the linseed oil allows it to combust around 0300.
For a double wammy, she should seal/stain all woodwork, then pile the cleanup rags in the corner. :)
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