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Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« on: May 22, 2017, 09:38:52 AM »
They only accept power when it's theirs.

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Maybe the problem is that the political system of the US is too top-heavy.

The amount of power vested into the one person who is POTUS... head of state, head of military, nominates judges, issues executive orders, highest authority when it comes to declassification...

To paraphrase Mitch McConnell, I think the US could use a little less drama and political system that is less prone to the whims of a single person.

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1. I wonder if we would have the same thought

the day before the last election. I think we are seeing the limits of our current electoral system. Disproportionate representation for the Senate and Presidency. Gerrymandering for the House. Fixed four year terms for the chief executive. It is times like this that the parliamentary system looks better. Would we feel the same way when Obama was President though?

No.

Because you're power-mad statist hypocrites.

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2. We need some Constitutional amendments.

The system wasn't designed to handle this level of partisanship and lack of concern for the common good.

Article 1, Section 8

Amendment IX

Amendment X

Any of these ring a bell for you?

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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2017, 09:47:17 AM »

Article 1, Section 8

Amendment IX

Amendment X

Any of these ring a bell for you?


All unfortunately neutered or interpreted to take power away from the States and People then give overreaching power to the  Congress and the Federal government generally, beginning with the FDR era Supreme Court.
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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2017, 11:07:38 AM »
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Maybe the problem is that the political system of the US is too top-heavy.

The amount of power vested into the one person who is POTUS... head of state, head of military, nominates judges, issues executive orders, highest authority when it comes to declassification...

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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2017, 02:46:24 PM »
Wow, the DUmmies are adopting conservative values?

Well, I guess I should finish reading the whole thing to find out...
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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2017, 12:16:44 PM »
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The system wasn't designed to handle this level of partisanship and lack of concern for the common good.

The system wasn't designed to handle 99% of the shit you DUmbasses have tried to make it responsible for nowadays.  So if some of it falls to the wayside, no skin off my back.

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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2017, 12:40:51 PM »
Obama and his fellow fascists spent 8 years weaponizing the federal government only to give it over to Trump.

When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2017, 01:19:25 PM »
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  Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power   

Shoe.....other foot....?  :lmao:
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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2017, 02:28:04 PM »
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1. I wonder if we would have the same thought

the day before the last election. I think we are seeing the limits of our current electoral system. Disproportionate representation for the Senate and Presidency. Gerrymandering for the House. Fixed four year terms for the chief executive. It is times like this that the parliamentary system looks better. Would we feel the same way when Obama was President though?

              

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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2017, 02:30:33 PM »
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Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
 

Shoe.....other foot....?  :lmao:

And the increasing love for the 2nd Amendment.   :whistling:

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2. We need some Constitutional amendments.

We own most of the state houses.  Bring it.

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The system wasn't designed to handle this level of partisanship and lack of concern for the common good.

The system wasn't designed to handle retarded infants and a preponderance of gibmedats.  Kill yourself.  Soon.
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Liberal thinking is a two-legged stool and magical thinking is one of the legs, the other is a combination of self-loating and misanthropy.  To understand it, you would have to be able to sit on that stool while juggling two elephants, an anvil and a fragmentation grenade, sans pin.

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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2017, 04:38:38 PM »
Many of these same DUmmies believe that, in the wake of the 2016 elections, Obama should have thrown out the election results, scheduled a new election on the grounds that a non- liberal was elected, and remain in office past his term limit.

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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2017, 05:36:56 PM »
Obama and his fellow fascists spent 8 years weaponizing the federal government only to give it over to Trump.

As I recall way back in 2009 when all of the Obumble shit was still hitting the fan and spreading everywhere, Rush said that one day the pendulum would swing, and that this government machine they were building would one day be turned back against them, used on them, and that they would see how it felt.


Well, here we are.  I have absolutely no pity for you primitives.  Those who sow the wind will reap the whirlwind.

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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2017, 09:01:41 PM »
Many of these same DUmmies believe that, in the wake of the 2016 elections, Obama should have thrown out the election results, scheduled a new election on the grounds that a non- liberal was elected, and remain in office past his term limit.

It shouldn't have, but that one even took me by surprise.  I mean, these single-celled organisms are stupid, but daaaaaahmn.
              

Liberal thinking is a two-legged stool and magical thinking is one of the legs, the other is a combination of self-loating and misanthropy.  To understand it, you would have to be able to sit on that stool while juggling two elephants, an anvil and a fragmentation grenade, sans pin.

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Re: Proglodytes suddenly not keen for centralized power
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2017, 12:36:40 PM »
As I recall way back in 2009 when all of the Obumble shit was still hitting the fan and spreading everywhere, Rush said that one day the pendulum would swing, and that this government machine they were building would one day be turned back against them, used on them, and that they would see how it felt.


Well, here we are.  I have absolutely no pity for you primitives.  Those who sow the wind will reap the whirlwind.

I anxiously await the IRS going ape shit on leftists organizations. The FNM shitstorm will be Biblical.
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.