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@#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« on: May 15, 2017, 06:05:42 PM »
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Stargazer99 (1,535 posts)

You christians that support the republican party _ questions for you
   
Why do you support a party namely Regan that said GREED is GOOD
When the Bible says the LOVE of money is evil?
Justify that to me
and don't give me the Calvinist view because if your not rich you say God doesn't love you
Well God must love the Mafia because they certainly are not in financial pain.

Ronald Reagan didn't say that, you idiot. That was Michael Douglas' character Gordon Gecko in the Oliver Stone film "Wallstreet."

You remember Oliver Stone, don't you? He's the 1% ****tard who lauded Hugo Chavez creating a socialist dictatorship in Venezuela but crawled away without a peep once the inevitable occurred.

So, why don't you pull your head out of your ass, stop watching TV and learn what conservatives and Christians really have to say.

Then have the balls to ask your questions in a place they can actually answer rather than hiding in DU like the little ***** you are.

But you won't because then you would have to confront the fact you're wrong but you would rather hate people based on lies you tell yourself.

I think we all know how Jesus would view that but you don't really care about what Jesus thinks. You just want to manipulate religion for political gain like a run-of-the-mill Pharisee.

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vlyons (2,799 posts)

4. It's a waste of time trying to get

prosperity Christians to admit to their greed and hypocracy. You can rant at them 24x7, and all you will accomplish is them getting more and more defensive. Their ego, their sense of Self-hood, is all wrapped up and entrenched in their belief system. They are not emotionally or spiritually mature enough to be open-minded to other possible ways of thinking and being. Except for a very very few, getting them to think rationally is pretty much a lost cause. They are "right" arguers. They must always be "right," and make everyone with a different view point "wrong."

So save your breath. Rather than waste my time with them, I prefer to think about and contemplate my own spiritual progress.
We cannot change other people; we can only change ourselves. IMHO

It's weird how much your spiritual progress requires compulsory taxation upon others.

Case in point...

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7. That might be good for your own peace of mind, but...

If we can't change the voting patterns of these 'christians' soon, then we are doomed to live under fascist rule for generations.

Yet, you mewling retards incessantly screech about theocracy whenever there isn't a pay off for you.

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Xolodno (1,852 posts)

11. Fallacy in your statement.

You are assuming they are "Christian". These whack jobs assume they are wealthy because Gold loves them. And they are forgiven for all the people they have cheated, swindled and oppressed.

They will show up once a year and help out at a soup kitchen to make themselves feel "christian", and no sooner they leave and happen to pass a beggar will yell at them "get a job you addict!"

They always ignore the part where Christ says he knew them not.

Jesus only demanded 10% and the publican -- after giving his life to Jesus -- gave back the excess tax money.

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ck4829 (18,244 posts)

13. I've given up on them, there's nothing Christian about them.
 
Worship wealth, turn away the refugee, say the sick deserve to be sick, etc.

Their god is an evil little god. Period.

When did Jesus demand we import rapists?

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14. They seem to care about the Supreme Court.
 
They want Roe vs. Wade and gay marriage overturned and don't give a shit about anything else. I heard a clip on NPR this morning. It was Falwell speaking at Liberty University. He basically defended Trump's past and character by saying nobody is perfect. It reminded me of how cult members think, then I remembered who his audience was.

So Christianity is good when it uses government to extort money to support you but it's bad if it protects the unborn.

Rot in Hell.

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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2017, 06:34:09 PM »
Like a bunch of little mentally-retarded kids describing why using a red crayon is different from using a blue crayon.....
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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2017, 06:56:35 PM »
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1 You christians that support the republican party _ questions for you
   
Why do you support a party namely 2 Regan that said GREED is GOOD 3
When the Bible says the LOVE of money is 4 evil?
Justify that to me
and don't give me the Calvinist view because if your not rich you say 5 God doesn't love you
Well 6 God must love the Mafia because they certainly are not in financial pain

1 Really, this whole rant does not apply to me, because my "support" in the political realm is subsidiary and limited: subsidiary to God; limited to individuals. But since S99 demonstrates significant ignorance in this rant, I'll respond further, since (s)he would assume the rant applies to me.

2 Regan was one of the daughters of King Lear in Shakespeare's play. What does a fictional character have to do with this context?

3 As has been pointed, that is a line from a fictional movie character. What's with attributing a comment from a fictional character to a real person? Not very honest, unless done in jaw-dropping ignorance.

4 If you're going to try using Scripture against Christians, quote it correctly, 'K? The quote is, "The love of money is the root of all evil." It's actually more powerful that the fractured quote, but irrelevant, because it's used as part of a straw man argument.

5 Ummmmm ... where did Calvin or any significant Calvinist say that? I haven't read Institutes or notable Calvinist theologians, but I do know they are not stupid. And they would know that most Christian believers are not rich.

6 Using silly straw men as premises for reductio ad absurdam makes the user thereof look silly.

That rant was so silly that even many DU-folk should have been able to set S99 straight.
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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2017, 07:41:39 PM »
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vlyons (2,799 posts)

4. It's a waste of time trying to get

prosperity Christians to admit to their greed and hypocracy.

Stereotype much? Leaving the question of eternal destiny to the One Who alone will answer it, prosperity Gospellers are a minority among Christians who are not theologically liberal, and a much rejected and/or criticized minority among theologically conservative Christians. BTW, the word is spelled, "Hypocrisy".

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11. Fallacy in your statement.

You are assuming they are "Christian". These whack jobs assume they are wealthy because Gold loves them. And they are forgiven for all the people they have cheated, swindled and oppressed.

They will show up once a year and help out at a soup kitchen to make themselves feel "christian", and no sooner they leave and happen to pass a beggar will yell at them "get a job you addict!"

They always ignore the part where Christ says he knew them not.

Same stereotype, same ignorance. You clearly are clueless about what we do, think and know.

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ck4829 (18,244 posts)

13. I've given up on them, there's nothing Christian about them.
 
Worship wealth, turn away the refugee, say the sick deserve to be sick, etc.

Their god is an evil little god. Period.

More stereotypes, more ignorance.
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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2017, 08:33:42 PM »
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You christians that support the republican party _ questions for you

Why do you support a party namely Regan that said GREED is GOOD
When the Bible says the LOVE of money is evil?
Justify that to me

Question for you and for all you democrats who call themselves christians and even those who don't

Why do you support a democrat party that values compliance and unquestioning
Acceptance to a ideology that wants to control its citizens via a large
Overreaching federal government instead of valuing
Individual freedom, justice, and liberty?
Justify that to me.

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Because third world peasant labor is a good thing.

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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2017, 08:55:37 PM »
Question for you and for all you democrats who call themselves christians and even those who don't

Why do you support a democrat party that values compliance and unquestioning
Acceptance to a ideology that wants to control its citizens via a large
Overreaching federal government instead of valuing
Individual freedom, justice, and liberty?
Justify that to me.

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Good point. If God didn't wanted us to be subservient to a master, why give us free will?

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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2017, 09:47:06 PM »
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Stargazer99 (1,535 posts)

You christians that support the republican party _ questions for you
   
Why do you support a party namely Regan that said GREED is GOOD
When the Bible says the LOVE of money is evil?
Justify that to me
and don't give me the Calvinist view because if your not rich you say God doesn't love you
Well God must love the Mafia because they certainly are not in financial pain.

The use of utensils is difficult for you.



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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2017, 07:05:11 AM »
Typical ignorance and Christophobia from the DUmmies who know about as much about Christian theology as a chipmunk knows about quantum physics.
Got to love, as others observed, his claiming that a quote first invented in the fictional movie 'Wall Street' (A movie which, as Snuggle points out, was made by an ultra- 1%er who sang the praises of Socialist dictators) was said by Reagan. Idiot.

What the Bible said was that the love of money is the root of all evil. Indeed, unregulated love of money can drive people to do evil things. For instance, liberal icon Michael Moore exploited the people of Flint, slandered good people like Larry Stecco, and insulted the Christian faith in general in his film 'Roger and Me' in order to make a lot of money and further inflate his bloated ego. When Moore inevitably drops dead from a cholesterol- induced heart attack, his mouth probably still full of spray- cheese (I'd imagine his hitting the ground for the final count would create a tremor that would register on the Richter Scale), the demons will probably need to expand the entrance of Hell in order to fit his mass of blubber through it.

"and don't give me the Calvinist view because if your not rich you say God doesn't love you."
Nothing stops God from loving all people. He even loves sinners (i.e. Jesus spoke kindly to the corrupt tax collector Zacchaeus even before the "Wee little man" repented of his corruption; The next time a movie is made about Jesus, they should include his encounter with Zacchaeus and have him played by Peter Dinklage). However, He is also just, which is why not everyone will make it into Heaven.

"Well God must love the Mafia because they certainly are not in financial pain."
As I said, God loves all people. However, if those in the Mafia or the Mexican cartels do not repent and accept Jesus's grace, you can be sure their hideous deeds will keep them from being admitted into Heaven. Incidentally, the druggies on DU are financially supporting the Mafia and cartels by buying dope, thus contributing to the cycle of violence, lawlessness, and murder.

" Rather than waste my time with them, I prefer to think about and contemplate my own spiritual progress."
Although he undoubtedly doesn't realize it, he has hit upon a spiritual point: Before you point out the speck in thy neighbor's eye, remove the log from thine own.

" And they are forgiven for all the people they have cheated, swindled and oppressed."
If they have earnestly accepted Jesus as their Savior, they are indeed forgiven by Him for their sins. They might still have issues with the law if they get caught (To quote O Brother Where Art Thou, "The Lord may have forgiven you, but the state of Mississippi, that's another matter"), but God's amazing grace has covered them spiritually.

"Worship wealth, turn away the refugee, say the sick deserve to be sick, etc."
Most just believe that refugees should be properly vetted before entry, to ensure we are not allowing Jihadists, sex- offenders, or other undesirables to just sweep into our country free and clear. I'd say that is a perfectly reasonable position to hold, and I believe Jesus would feel the same way. We must care for "Strangers in our land," but we must also look after enforcing our laws and protecting our people.

"They want Roe vs. Wade and gay marriage overturned and don't give a shit about anything else."
Fun fact: Roe vs. Wade was a sham trial to begin with. The woman who was the "Roe" in the case lied about being raped (A pair of female lawyers interested in legalizing abortion contacted her and convinced her to do so in order to gain sympathy- points in the case). She later repented, found Jesus, and was a very outspoken leader in the pro- life movement for the rest of her days.
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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2017, 07:40:56 AM »
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2017, 08:50:50 AM »
If it wasn't for all the hard working successful Christians paying taxes, all you useless blood sucking liberals would starve.
Life is tough and it’s even tougher when you’re stupid

Basking in the glow of my white Privilege, while I water the Begonias with liberal tears!

I will give up my guns when the liberals give up their illegal aliens

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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2017, 08:58:01 AM »
If it wasn't for all the hard working successful Christians paying taxes, all you useless blood sucking liberals would starve.

Additionally, countries like India and Pakistan aren't making it difficult/impossible for western humanitarian charities to operate in those countries because those charities are run by atheists.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2017, 09:48:09 AM »
When did wanting to keep what you've earned become greed, while wanting what someone else has earned has become need??

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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2017, 10:35:23 AM »
When did wanting to keep what you've earned become greed, while wanting what someone else has earned has become need??

When Libs decided they knew best how your $$ should be spent, and when those same Libs decided stupid actions - not getting an education, pursuing college majors that have no career path, sexual promiscuity, frying your brains with drugs, yada, yada, yada - should be subsidized by government by confiscating the earnings of productive people who didn't do stupid things.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: @#$%ing idiots discuss Christianity
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2017, 02:59:23 PM »
Hey DUmmies, Sloth is one of the original sins.  Before you lecture us about Christianity get off your lazy asses and support yourselves.