believe - Trump, Pence, Ryan to resign/be arrested

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Ilsa (43,419 posts)

From Louise Mensch: sources have outlined evidence that exists against multiple men in the line of
   
Succession to the US Presidency, as it relates to Russia’s hack on America.

Several separate sources with links to the intelligence communities of more than one nation, and with links within the US state and federal justice systems, have outlined evidence that exists against multiple men in the line of succession to the US Presidency, as it relates to Russia’s hack on America. I can also exclusively report a RICO case is being considered against the Republican party for laundering Russian money.

These sources say that Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, who was the ‘Designated Survivor’ at the inauguration of Donald Trump (yes, really) is likely to become President if charges are pursued, according to the evidence, of illegal collusion with Russia, money laundering, and obstruction of justice.

On Donald Trump there is voluminous evidence he knowingly colluded with the Russian state in the hacking of the U.S election, and laundered Russian money through shell companies. This evidence is both data-based, for example, based on the way the server he registered laundered stolen voter registration databases with the DNC’s Vertica database in order to target Russian propaganda at voters.

He has additionally both directly obstructed justice and conspired with others to do so. Rather than repeat previous reporting in this piece I will devote a separate article to the case against Mr. Trump.


https://patribotics.blog/2017/05/11/sources-russia-probe-means-president-hatch-rico-case-against-gop/

Take this however you wish, but with the fbi raids on gop in VA, maybe it fits.

Bernardo de La Paz (17,623 posts)

1. Constitutional scholars need to find way to take Pres away from criminal RepubliCon Party.
 
Since they stole the Electoral College it should go to the Majority Vote winner Hillary Clinton.

That would actually be truly democratic (small 'd').

But the wisdom of the Founders did not extend to a Party colluding with a foreign adversary to steal the Electoral College.

geek tragedy (67,300 posts)

2. this is starting to read like fantasy instead of reporting. I mean, Orrin Hatch the next president?

Come on.

hvn_nbr_2 (5,388 posts)

5. Agree. How in the world could it fall to Hatch?

There is no place in the established line of succession that Hatch fits.

On edit: Is Hatch the president pro temp of the Senate? I don't know who is. Usually it's someone older than Methusala (sp?).

Bernardo de La Paz (17,623 posts)

22. Simultaneous indictments, esp. if no VP successor appointed.

Suppose tRump resigns, Pence rises, appoints a VP who gets tied up in confirmations and then Ryan & Pence & Tillerson are forced to resign en masse after indictments before the VP is confirmed.

Very unlikely, but possible. Republicons would ram through a confirmation ASAP come hell or high water before any forced resignations would be announced.

thesquanderer (5,793 posts)

15. Unlikely as it may be, Hatch is probably the best possible outcome.
 
He's 4th in line, and would be better than Trump, Pence, or Ryan.

If Trump/Pence could "hold on" until into 2019, and Dems took the House, the Dem speaker would be in line after Pence, but a lot of damage can be done between now and then.

Not that any of this is especially likely, but all possible...

Notice this is about who is most agreeable to the Proglodytes.

Sparkly (23,373 posts)

6. At what point could this invalidate the election??

(She said wishfully...)

onenote (28,236 posts)

12. At no point.

A noble effort but you're trying to shout above the retarded pant-hooting masses.

Bernardo de La Paz (17,623 posts)

14. Constitutional scholars need to find way to take Pres away from criminal RepubliCon Party.

That RICO gang can't be rewarded by being allowed to appoint new presidents one after another as they go down to indictment/conviction/resignation.

It would be democratic (small 'd') to ensure that the majority vote winner Hillary Clinton gets the office after the Republicon ticket is disqualified for stealing the Electoral College by treasonous collusion with a foreign adversary.

A constitutional scholar would tell you their arguments have no bearing.

But I feel you're trying to bait the idea of Obama coming out of retirement to lead you to The People's Glorious Revolution.

forgotmylogin (1,435 posts)

21. If they can't nullify the election...

They should at least roll back EVERY SINGLE EO and piece of legislation made by the current administration. It won't take long.

Bernardo de La Paz (17,623 posts)

25. From now on, no more judicial confirmations. This is the last year of the tRump Presidency. . . . nt

onenote (28,236 posts)

31. Who is "they" that will do that?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029049051

[Carl]

I do wonder if psychiatric students study the DUmp.
It is textbook insanity.

[FlaGator]

The insane never realize they are insane... it's everyone else who is off their rockers.

[Duke Nukum]

You know, it is impressive at how far most DUmmies have come in life considering they have cotton candy for brains.

[jukin]

1. ??????
2. ????????
3. Hillary is president!!!1111!11!!!elevinty
Louise Mensch

Is this person for real or a 4chan prankster?

[Delmar]

Response to Ilsa (Original post)Thu May 11, 2017, 04:37 PM
NCjack (1,905 posts)
41. FBI arrests all members of Congress that took Russian money. The prosecutor charges

and prosecutes them as a criminal gang -- none get an individual trial. Deals cut, with mandatory requirement that they resign their seat in Congress. The remaining members of the House elect a President and V.P.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGW0h80gKW4[/youtube]

[DumbAss Tanker]

Believe in one hand and shit in the other.  I know which one's going to get full first.

 

[SVPete]

NCjack (1,905 posts)
41. FBI arrests all members of Congress that took Russian money. The prosecutor charges

and prosecutes them as a criminal gang -- none get an individual trial. Deals cut, with mandatory requirement that they resign their seat in Congress. The remaining members of the House elect a President and V.P.

Ignoring the fact that "taking Russian money" is not a criminal offense, does this moron realize that would ensnare Hillary and Billary?

[DumbAss Tanker]

Ignoring the fact that "taking Russian money" is not a criminal offense, does this moron realize that would ensnare Hillary and Billary?

If the Dems got the 'Full investigation' they claim to want, I would not be at all surprised if it eventuated that there was Russian involvement in the Clinton organization.  Damn' near everything for the past year has blown up into the opposite of what the people yelling for it expected, why should it stop now?

[SVPete]

If the Dems got the 'Full investigation' they claim to want, I would not be at all surprised if it eventuated that there was Russian involvement in the Clinton organization.  Damn' near everything for the past year has blown up into the opposite of what the people yelling for it expected, why should it stop now?

  Ask and ye shall receive! Specifically, Page 8.

[FunkyZero]

And I thought November was entertaining.
I think in the past I have usually said it half joking/half serious... but these people have mental issues man, it's no longer in doubt.
"volumes of evidence"? "Money laundering"?
How much crack does it take to come to such "conclusions"?
How can one be so genuinely dishonest with ones self like that? I'm the type that never says never, but even this I see as a 99% chance of bullshit. It appears to most of us that this is obviously all just propaganda, not much higher on the rung that the golden showers memo they tried to sell. Do they really not see that?

[98ZJUSMC]

Since they stole the Electoral College

How much more retarded do you Amoebas have to get?

Damn....................... 

[BlueStateSaint]

How much more retarded do you Amoebas have to get?

Damn....................... 

That's a borderline insult to amoebae the world over . . .



 

[jukin]

I admit that I am no expert on the subtle nuances of the "designated survivor." However, I thought the DS was in a cabinet position. Hatch is not. SO I'm throwing the BS flag and assessing a 10 IQ point penalty to the DUmmy.

Now I do know more about the order of succession (sp?) to POTUS:
1. VP
2. Speaker of the House.
3. SOS

That would mean TREX is POTUS. DUmmys would be very upset with that....but I wouldn't.

[freedumb2003b]

onenote (28,236 posts)

31. Who is "they" that will do that?

The same "they" that are omnipotent -- they supply food, drink, shelter, sustenance and succor.

Mommy and daddy.  They can do ANYTHING!

[Adam Wood]

I admit that I am no expert on the subtle nuances of the "designated survivor." However, I thought the DS was in a cabinet position. Hatch is not. SO I'm throwing the BS flag and assessing a 10 IQ point penalty to the DUmmy.

Now I do know more about the order of succession (sp?) to POTUS:
1. VP
2. Speaker of the House.
3. SOS

That would mean TREX is POTUS. DUmmys would be very upset with that....but I wouldn't.

The fantasy revolves around the notion that there would be some sort of deal made in the same fashion as getting rid of Spiro Agnew and inserting Gerald Ford into the order of succession.  Of course, their fantasy also revolves around magically taking the House and Senate in 2018, too, despite that being mathematically impossible.

[SVPete]

...  Of course, their fantasy also revolves around magically taking the House and Senate in 2018, too, despite that being mathematically impossible.

Specifically, the Ds could not get a 2/3 majority in the Senate.

[jukin]

Specifically, the Ds could not get a 2/3 majority in the Senate.

I don't know about that.

Looks like the super geniuses in the GOPe leadership are doing their best to give the HOR away. Even with 25 donk seats up in the senate the GOPe could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[I_B_Perky]

Bernardo de La Paz (17,623 posts)

1. Constitutional scholars need to find way to take Pres away from criminal RepubliCon Party.
 
Since they stole the Electoral College it should go to the Majority Vote winner Hillary Clinton.

That would actually be truly democratic (small 'd').

But the wisdom of the Founders did not extend to a Party colluding with a foreign adversary to steal the Electoral College.

Stole the electoral college so the majority vote winner gets the prize?   

OK I'll play dummie... let us say it is true... so where in the US Constitution does it say that?  At best there would be a temp president and a new election. 

Man alive I have seen some dumbasses in my time but you freaking idiots take the cake.  I would hazard to say that if there wasn't welfare you dummie would succumb to Darwin's law of survival.

[Adam Wood]

Specifically, the Ds could not get a 2/3 majority in the Senate.

I'd have to go back and run the numbers again, but I think I recall that it's essentially impossible for the Democrats to even get a majority in the Senate in 2018, just based upon which seats are actually up this time around.

[BlueStateSaint]

I'd have to go back and run the numbers again, but I think I recall that it's essentially impossible for the Democrats to even get a majority in the Senate in 2018, just based upon which seats are actually up this time around.

However, it is possible for the Republicans to get a 2/3rds majority . . . Not probable, but possible.