Taverner primitive says morphine was easier to quit

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101852235

Oh my.

Taverner (47,898 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
 
Anyone here have any experience with e-cigarettes?

I quit smoking several years ago (I think I'm going on 12 years) but I would be lying if I didn't say that EVERY SINGLE DAY SINCE I HAVE CRAVED CIGARETTES!!!!!!

Let me put it this way, morphine was easier to kick than smoking. I have no desire for morphine, but I would love a smoke.

Anyway, just in case the cravings get really bad, I have a bunch of nic gum to curb the cravings. But I do miss having that smoke.

So - how close are e-cigs to the real thing?

Is the FDA report true? Or is it all BS?

Which one is the best, and which cartrige/flavor is the best if your FAVORITE was Marlboro Reds?

RebelOne (22,250 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

1. I have tried the e-cigarettes, and they will help the nicotine craving for a while, but they just do not have that nicotine kick.

bigwillq (57,559 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

2. I think they make Marlboro Red cartriges

I tried it for a month, Nuovo I think the name of the brand was.

I felt it worked very well for cravings.

I just decided that I still wasn't ready yet to quit. I think it kind of makes you want to smoke a real one even more because it's so close to being a real cigarette, if that makes sense.

Tierra_y_Libertad (33,223 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

3. I switched to ecigs over a year ago.

After 40 years as a heavy smoker.

They are very similar in to the real thing in the effect. You get a very real (almost too harsh) "throat hit" which depends on the strength of nicotine you pick. I use the "strong" 24mg variety.

I use Green Smoke. I haven't tried any of the others.

I think it's a bit more spendy, especially at first, but works for me.

Green Smoke offers few flavors to West Coasters - no fruit flavors of any kind, just tobacco flavors or menthol.

You can also buy e-liquid and, to a certain extent, recharge the cartridges. Much to my surprise, I like the fruit best.

Good luck. I never thought I would be able to stop smoking but, after many attempts with patches, gum, groups, this worked.

Taverner (47,898 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

4. My situation is different because I actually *have* quit, and miss them dearly

And when I have those nic fits (they never, EVER go away) I need something better than the gum

Tierra_y_Libertad (33,223 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

5. Well, they certainly rid me of the cravings. And, still do.

I should say, they satisfy the cravings when they occur. The ecig advertisers kinda/sorta tell you that you can cut down on the nicotine levels until the cravings disappear. I don't buy that. But, I don't care either. All I know, is that after all those years, I finally was able to give up and if I'm getting nicotine through a patch, gum, or ecigs, big deal.

OriginalGeek (1,154 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

6. I quit smoking in 2003 but i've tried a few hits off my son's e-cig and it was actually satisfying. But I'm talking about just a very few times while playing cards and drinking. I don't think I would want to carry any around - like you, I still crave cigs and I fear if I started these things full time I would eventually demand real cigs.

On the other hand I like a cigar once or twice every couple of months. After smoking one, it's a long time before I want another. I do inhale a little bit but not like when I smoked cigs.

All told, I think I might get 6 cigars in a year. 8 tops (last year we went to St Augustine for our 25th anniversary and we got a B&B room with a balcony overlooking the main street and Matanzas river and I indulged quite a bit since I could relax on the balcony and smoke and watch people go by and sip cocktails and not have to worry about being anywhere or driving. It was a blast!)

I have no idea what brand my son was using (he's since gone back to regular cigs unfortunately) but I recall it was a pretty expensive kit.

pintobean (5,026 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

7. I would suggest trying a disposable e-cig. They go for about 10 bucks at the drug stores and gas stations.

El Supremo (10,369 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

8. I tried them last year

They taste like propylene glycol. Sweet. I like real tobacco better.

[jukin]

I read the title and immediately thought for a DUche  "GOVERNMENT TEAT."

[JohnnyReb]

Line from an old, old song.....I'll be singing it soon enough.

"Tell Saint Peter at the golden gate that you hate to make him wait but you got to have another cigarette."

[Duke Nukum]

I quit smoking in 1990 and after a few months, I stopped thinking about cigarettes, except occasionally when I read someone like Taverner complaining about it.

[GOBUCKS]

Let me put it this way, morphine was easier to kick than smoking.

Morphine was easy because he substituted heroin.

[Aristotelian]

Looks like nads isn't the only person whose bubble obamanaut likes to pop:

Obamanaut (9,973 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

10. Information as to the addictive potential of tobacco/cigarettes has been available

for centuries (but not declared such by the US Surgeon General until the 1980s).

One has to wonder why, with that information available, anyone would even start smoking. Cigarettes have been called 'coffin nails' for decades - that's sort of a clue.

http://tobacco.harpweek.com/hubpages/CommentaryPage.asp?Commentary=Addiction

Response to Obamanaut (Reply #10)
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 05:06 AM
Taverner (47,908 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

15. You must have never smoked then...

Do a search on "dopamine" and you might understand
""Ford!" he said, "there's an infinite number of monkeys outside who want to talk to us about this script for Hamlet they've worked out.""

Response to Taverner (Reply #15)
Fri Feb 10, 2012, 09:50 AM
 Obamanaut (9,973 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

17. No I never smoked. I read the anecdotes of 'coffin nails', and never saw

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any animals rolling dried grasses into thin paper tubes, then lighting those tubes and inhaling the smoke.

I never saw those animals wake up in the morning hacking and coughing, or setting their beds on fire after falling asleep.

But I did see people doing these things, and it seemed to me that maybe "dumb" animals knew a thing or two.

One can read about "dopamine" until one turns blue, but the fact remains: cigarettes/tobacco products have been known (or suspected) to be harmful for a very long time, and if one does not start using them, whatever substance in them that is harmful does not enter the body. It does not seem that complicated to me.

With the information re addiction and other side effects that don't seem all that great (not to mention the expense) and the length of time that information has been available, starting smoking does not appear to be, well, bright.

[BlueStateSaint]

I'd love to buy Obamanaut dinner, just to pick his brain . . . and to congratulate him for his smackdowns of nadin and Taverner.

[micmac]

Morphine was easy because he substituted heroin.

LMAO! So true!!