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RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« on: February 06, 2012, 08:18:10 AM »
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(DUer) Carlos Miller Arrested For Photographing Police Crack-Down on Occupy Miami

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"Local journalist Carlos Miller has a blog called Photography is Not a Crime. Apparently Miami-Dade police officers are not avid readers.

County cops arrested Miller on Tuesday night as he was filming the Fuzz forcibly evacuating Occupy Miami protesters from Government Center downtown. But he says the police are the ones who messed up.

"They took a routine bullshit arrest and turned it into a huge constitutional violation and a possible federal lawsuit because they deleted my footage," Miller says. "They messed with the wrong reporter."

Miller says that the police were actually doing an admirable job clearing Government Center without violence. But when he asked a policewoman if he could move past a phalanx of officers in order to get to his car, he says all Hell broke loose."

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/02/carlos_miller_arrested_for_pho.php

I don't think that the judge will go easy on him this time.

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They've messed with the wrong guy.

If you're referring to the judge, yep. RIMjob, he's shit outta luck.

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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 08:19:36 AM »
Oh no...not this shit again.
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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 08:30:57 AM »
I may be on Miller's side.

Cops do not need a warrant to observe people on the street. If you smoke pot in a car and an officer strolls past and smells it his testimony is admissable.

If cops have this privilege why don't citizens have this right?

If Miller was obstructing the officers, i.e. hollering at them or imposing himself, then he was obstructing; but mere photographing should be permitted.
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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 09:05:34 AM »
I may be on Miller's side.

Cops do not need a warrant to observe people on the street. If you smoke pot in a car and an officer strolls past and smells it his testimony is admissable.

If cops have this privilege why don't citizens have this right?

If Miller was obstructing the officers, i.e. hollering at them or imposing himself, then he was obstructing; but mere photographing should be permitted.

Perhaps - but one must always remember that when a DUmmie spins a tale, there are always 'inconsistent data' to consider.

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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 09:14:04 AM »
Perhaps - but one must always remember that when a DUmmie spins a tale, there are always 'inconsistent data' to consider.

But when he asked a policewoman if he could move past a phalanx of officers in order to get to his car, he says all Hell broke loose."...that's when he started cussing, pushing, flinging hands around and shouting, "I know my rights."

Just let your imagination run a little to get the full picture of what really went down.
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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 09:18:27 AM »
Keep in mind that RIMjob was arrested in 08 for that same thing. He ended up on probation. Judge will not look kindly on 2nd offense.
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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 09:20:03 AM »
I may be on Miller's side.

You're not.
Some of us are familiar with the escapades of the Rimmer, most likely what happened is, he was taking photos, as is his right, the cops asked him to move or something and he started giving them shit.
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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 09:25:38 AM »
I may be on Miller's side.

Cops do not need a warrant to observe people on the street. If you smoke pot in a car and an officer strolls past and smells it his testimony is admissable.

If cops have this privilege why don't citizens have this right?

If Miller was obstructing the officers, i.e. hollering at them or imposing himself, then he was obstructing; but mere photographing should be permitted.


The very act of taking pictures or video of police is illegal in Illinois.  The DemonRats here protect their own.

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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2012, 09:27:58 AM »
But when he asked a policewoman if he could move past a phalanx of officers in order to get to his car, he says all Hell broke loose."...that's when he started cussing, pushing, flinging hands around and shouting, "I know my rights."

Just let your imagination run a little to get the full picture of what really went down.


Exactly -

I also watched the 'recovered video' in question -

Raging Miami Queen metioned that the quality of the recovered video is 'choppy' and all the points where there is a stutter are insignificant - except the part where he engaged the officer in question - by some unlucky coincidence - the action that led to his arrest has vanished.

Apparently, RIM is assuming that most people have never used Photorec to recover lost data. and apparently, RIM is assuming that most people don't know that data is written sequentially to flash media.

What does that mean ?

It means that the video was the last thing shot before the SDRam card was 'deleted by the officers' - so, if one takes no further pictures using the flash media after deletion, 100% of that video is recoverable. Also, since data is stored sequentially on the card, it is also likely that there was still more room after the video was shot to take at least a few photos, and still be able to get a 100% recovery. (to explain - lets say there are 100 places to store something on the device, and the video filled slots 26 to 89, after deleting the data, the card would still write new data starting with block 90, continuing to 100, then it would start looking for empty space once it cycled back to slot 1) - The exception to this would be if the card was formatted, then there would be no chance to recover anything.

I know this because along with building and repairing PCs on the side, I make a good amount of money recovering lost data from cameras, cellphones, and even damaged hard disks.

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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2012, 09:54:26 AM »
deleting is the wrong thing to do.


i have been thinking alot about this issue.

is it unlawful search and seizure for the cops to have the photographer hand over his equipment so they can download the contents as evidence. the photographer should retain the right to remain in the presence of his equipment. there is probable cause to believe there would be evidence to the scene of the crime/police action.

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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2012, 11:38:08 AM »
deleting is the wrong thing to do.


i have been thinking alot about this issue.

is it unlawful search and seizure for the cops to have the photographer hand over his equipment so they can download the contents as evidence. the photographer should retain the right to remain in the presence of his equipment. there is probable cause to believe there would be evidence to the scene of the crime/police action.


Assuming that the story is exactly as described by RIM, that is correct - somehow though, I feel there are details that have been omitted from it all, and since the part of the video where RIM was arrested seems to be missing, I feel fairly confident that there may be some creative editing going on.

The video shows;

A. Filming of the police.
B. RIM approaching the officer he blames.
C. .....missing data here....
D. RIM is surrounded by police and is arrested.

If he could produce the entire video, I'm right there with you- the police went beyond their authority. Otherwise, its just another bouncy.

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Re: RIMjob arrested in Miami for filming Police
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2012, 01:00:02 PM »
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Snatching somebody for no reason is called kidnapping
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Not exactly true. The police can hold you for 72 hours without charging you. Then they have to charge you with a crime or release you. 
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