Thug killed by CCW packing diner trying to rob Waffle House at gunpoint

[vesta111]

Response to Warpy (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 12:35 PM

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17. I agree. He should have waited until after the robber killed or at least wounded someone. nt

 

This is my favorite reply, warped sense of humor that I have. 

In all fairness to the CCW, he/she used good sense not firing more then once, bullets do ricochet and there could have been small kids in the way.   

We tend to freeze when something bad happens, takes precious seconds for our brain to Analise unexpected input.
Mostly we see what we expect to see, anything out of the ordinary if traumatic enough can cause us to  time to gather our Witt's.   This was a traumatic experience for everyone in the building.   

Clear and present danger, some idiot waving a gun around that could accidentally or on purpose fire the weapon,
this must have happend in a heart beat, no time for anyone to take cover or even know what was going on.

This young man was old enough to be a father, vote, pay taxes, fight for their country, I shed no tears for his death,  his responsibility's were at that point those of any man 3 times his age.

The CCW stated he did nothing until the hoodlum pointed their gun at them, well there you go, self defence.

But as was shown in New Hampshire CCW can get one in a mess.

 

[tanstaafl]

Then again, if I do hit him in the leg with a Black Talon, he's liable to bleed out anyway after I sever his f'n femoral artery. Hmm, what's better DUmbasses? 

But Rebel, bleeding out from a leg wound might take up to 5 minutes. If wounding perp is the goal, better to give him one in the gun arm shoulder to reduce the chances of return fire.

Then readjust your aim and crack his sternum.

[diesel driver]

The first shot should always be a kill shot. Wounding just gives them another opportunity to take your life/others' lives.

Not to mention the perp could/would hire a DUmmie lawyer and sue the CCW'er, Waffle House, Spartanburg, South Carolina (for past racial prejudices), the gun manufacturer, etc., for "interfering with him providing for his family", or some shit like that.

CCW'er just saved the taxpayers possible millions of dollars in medical bills, legal fees, and helped relieve future prison overcrowding.

Too bad this didn't happen last Saturday.  We were passing thru Spartanburg to Greenville.  Mrs. Diesel would have had an opportunity to try out her new CCW permit.   

[Tucker]

Not to mention the perp could/would hire a DUmmie lawyer and sue the CCW'er, Waffle House, Spartanburg, South Carolina (for past racial prejudices), the gun manufacturer, etc., for "interfering with him providing for his family", or some shit like that.

CCW'er just saved the taxpayers possible millions of dollars in medical bills, legal fees, and helped relieve future prison overcrowding.

Too bad this didn't happen last Saturday.  We were passing thru Spartanburg to Greenville.  Mrs. Diesel would have had an opportunity to try out her new CCW permit.   

Nope.

"Stand you ground" laws prevent this.

[diesel driver]

Nope.

"Stand you ground" laws prevent this.

In most places, but I believe there was something in California where a burglar fell thru a skylite, sued the homeowner for injuries and won.

Let us also not forget Bernhard Goetz.  He still owes the scum he shot and paralyzed $43 million.

"Stand your ground" laws will hamper this, but they hasn't prevented it, especially in blue state hellholes.  Best to make sure the SOB is DRT before the cops arrive.

[AprilRazz]

I was trained to shoot to stop. If the perps heart and breathing stop as well then the threat is extra neutralized.

[AprilRazz]

No Iverglas but Pammy has to jump in the conversation.

demtenjeep
48. the hubs and I have our concealed carry

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hubs carries a lot, me not so much, just have it when I travel alone.

[Tucker]

No Iverglas but Pammy has to jump in the conversation.

She owns a Glock and a pink Charter Arms snubbie.

[GOBUCKS]

I have no tolerance for violence against women; it's a despicable act in virtually every case.

But I'd consider it a strong mitigating factor if the victim had persisted in calling the perpetrator "the hubs".

Sometimes, enough is simply enough.

[Rebel]

Nope.

"Stand you ground" laws prevent this.

For criminal cases; don't trust a jury when it comes to a civil case.

[vesta111]

Down the road a piece from us a gentleman walked into a Drug Store for a few items.  He took his items and paid for them with cash and exited the store to get into his truck to go home.

This man had a CCW and when he reached for his wallet some hysterical person saw the butt of his gun.   This good citizen proceded to get the store locked down, and had not just the local towns but the State police looking for him.

One hell of a waste of man power for a suspicious person in the mind of another.   Darn this was a circle jerk as  this poor citizen soon found him self corned with both town and State cops.  Hell of a mess for the driver, out of the truck on the ground and he had no idea why.   Funny the cops themselves had no idea why they had to find him except they were told he was armed and to stop him. This could have taken a very bad turn for everybody.

Lesson for CCW, make sure the weapon is totally out of sight from anyone, or wear it in the open carry. It took hours to sort all this out with the store  the Police and the citizen, hours spent that need not have happend.

For some reason open carry is ignored but get a CCW that has a weapon under their clothing and people see it , they panic, don"t know why, but a fact of life in this area.